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6th December 2020, 01:21 PM | #241 |
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Killer to finish out 16 year sentence on the outside
Meredith Kercher's killer will finish his 16 year sentence on the outside, doing community service.
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I start with www.injusticeinperugia.org click on wiki it sometimes take 2 goes to work. You
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This must really upset Meredith's brother and sister. I'm glad her parents don't have to see this. And no, Vixen, I'm not mocking her family before you make that insane accusation again.
From the aritlce: "Knox and Sollecito were acquitted in 2011 before being convicted again in 2014 by an appeals court in Florence, which ruled that the multiple injuries inflicted on Kercher’s body proved that Guede could not have acted alone." I'm still trying to figure out the logic in that one when...what was it? Six out of seven medical experts disagreed with that? |
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I thought that the argument that there had to be more than one assailant was based on the fact that the victim had done karate for a year? I thought that the court did not rely on the expert forensic pathology opinions but said that this judgement was based on other 'facts'.
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Which court? The Florence appeals court or the Guede fast track court where it was originally established that there were multiple assailants?
ETA: Karate or martial arts isn't mentioned in the Nencini motivation report. |
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As a result of Italy's tough anti-mafia laws, the police, prosecutors and judges are compelled by law to sue for calunnia. It was and is a favourite mafia strategy to smear the reputation of the authorities they hate and to undermine public trust in them.
The populist magazine OGGI has been hit with calunnia suits several times as it seems sympathetic to the mafia and often prints favourable stories about it. |
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The Amanda Knox 'railroaded' story was supplied to the writer by Madison Paxton, who was touting Knox' story around all the press ATT and he appears to have had a crush on her.
I used to subscribe to ROLLING STONE when it was a genuinely hipster/alternative publication. Nowadays it's lost its way and thinks glamorising killers, such as Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (the Boston Bomber) who featured on their front page as a 'pin up' and ridiculous stories of tag teams of twelve bullying Knox over 53 hours with no food or drink in the misguided belief this is trendy and cool. Let's face it, it is not a news outlet, it is a commercial magazine that relies on advertising revenue. |
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Having been imprisoned since 2008, he has served twelve years which is on a par with what a life sentence prisoner (young adult category) would have got in the UK. He did the crime he served the time. Why would Stephanie, John or Lyle Kercher be upset? It is more upsetting for the victims of crime to see the perpetrator get away with it, earning big bucks from book sales and charging US$ '000's as a speaker on 'innocence projects'.
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The protocol in a criminal court case is for the prosecution to present their evidence and the defence theirs. The court then decides which evidence it prefers. It preferred the evidence of the prosecution of multiple attackers and it gives its reasons in the Motivations Report, which can be found here.
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7th December 2020, 08:12 AM | #253 |
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"Supplied"? Even if this puerile narrative is accurate, you've avoided the question of the story's basic accuracy.
Laugh out loud. Wow. Why didn't you say so earlier? Can you name one American news outlet that doesn't operate this way? "It's not a news outlet." "It's a commercial magazine." Laugh out loud. |
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You keep making out Mignini sued for the Italian Criminal Offence of Calunnia out of spite, when he was professionally bound to do so. Both Sollecito and Knox paid a lot of money to smear the Italian police and prosecutor in the media, in a blatant attempt to pervert justice. West Seattle Herald and Doug Preston were some of the parties involved.
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Citation needed.
Would you care to explain then why Amanda's parents were charged with calunnia for merely repeating what Amanda told them about being smacked on the back of the head but neither prosecution friendly reporter Follain who wrote the story nor the paper that printed this "calunnia" was charged? |
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You're as predictable as rain in India during the monsoon season.
He was sentenced to 16 years in prison... until 2024. Last I looked this is 2020. Community service isn't "doing the time". He's going to be living in an apartment in Viterbo, not in a prison cell. Yes, it is more upsetting for victims of crime to see the perpetrator getting away with it. Which, in this case didn't happen as the perpetrator didn't get away with it...he just got off very easily earning a college degree paid for by the state, getting to spend a lot of his lenient sentence in work release and then doing community service living in an apartment also paid for by the state. |
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May I remind you of this "calunnia" spoken by Lumumba and printed in the Daily Mail in early 2008 against the police? So, did the police investigate this as required by law and find it to be true which explains why Lumumba was not sued which you say they would have been compelled to do? Or, did they fail in their duty and not investigate it at all? Which is it, Vix?
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Fascinating.
Even after all this time, some people still don't get the difference between calunnia (Art. 368 cp) and diffamazione (Art. 595 cp)... The highlighted part above is an interesting way to interpret the highlighted parts of Art. 368 cp below...
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AFAIK none of the "diffamazione" sattelites Dottore Mignini wasn't "compelled by law to sue for" resulted in any conviction. Bill is quite right about this. When it comes to "calunnia", what's left is "calunnia I "(Lumumba), where we are still waiting for "Italy" to come up with a solution regarding the ECHR decision and "calunnia -bis" (Mignini, police, interpreter) that ended with:
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Mignini used lawsuits as a form of intimidation. This is from the Committee to Protect Journalists Attacks on the Press in 2011 - Italy, 22 February 2012:
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Mignini is well known to harass any journalist...or anyone...who dares criticize him. He's a freaking narcissist who fancies himself an Italian Sherlock Holmes right down to the pipe. He used Italy's stringent laws to his own advantage whenever it suited him and ignored them whenever it didn't as in the examples of Lumumba and Follain that I mentioned earlier. |
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Numerous abuses were committed by the police/prosecution as detailed in the links which consisted of violating the rights of Amanda and Raffaele during the interrogations by denying access to lawyers, not taping the interrogations, broke numerous Italian laws during the interrogation, fed false information to the media, committed perjury, lied to Amanda she had HIV, suppressed and destroyed evidence. Could Vixen explain why would Amanda and Raffaele need to smear the prosectuion when the prosecution did a perfectly good of this themselves?
http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/raffaeles-kitchen-knife/ http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/contam...bwork-coverup/ http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/meredi...ry-corruption/ http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/evidence-destroyed/ http://www.amandaknoxcase.com/blood-...irs-apartment/ https://knoxsollecito.wordpress.com/...ele-sollecito/ http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/myths.html http://www.internationalskeptics.com...4#post11071314 https://amandaknoxauguriesofinnocenc...om/2014/06/11/ |
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Did Knox and Sollecito pay the Court of Cassation a lot of money to find that the investigation by the police led by Mignini was the result of "stunning flaws, or amnesia" that led to "omissions in the investigative activity"?
Did Knox and Sollecito pay the C of C to find that "The international spotlight on the case in fact resulted in the investigation undergoing a sudden acceleration, that, in the frantic search for one or more guilty parties to consign to international public opinion, certainly didn’t help the search for substantial truth"? Did Knox and Sollecito pay the C of C to find that the prosecution had failed miserably to prove that they had participated in the murder and that, "In fact, in the presence of a scenario marked by many contradictions, the referral judge should not have come to a verdict of guilt, but - as previously observed – should have reached a verdict of not guilty, given Article 530, section 2, Italian Code of Criminal Procedure"? |
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Comments section has its usual share of haters:
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