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Old 11th November 2018, 06:10 PM   #161
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No comets are MOSTLY ROCKY not MOSTLY ICE as stated by A'Hearn!
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Old 11th November 2018, 07:09 PM   #162
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Thumbs down Usual insult of A'Hearn which stated that comets are mostly DUST

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No comets are MOSTLY ROCKY not MOSTLY ICE as stated by A'Hearn!
Usual lie and insult of A'Hearn who stated that comets are mostly DUST, not actual ROCK, to derail form his electric comet insanity.

Astronomers believe that comets have a larger dust component than in the 1950's because that is what data in the 2000's says !
The impact on Tempel 1 in 2005 ejected more dust than water ices.
The evidence is that 67P has about 6 times as much dust than it has ices.

What A'Hearn actually described as rock was the consolidated ices and dust. He was using geological terms for comet features as is fairly common.

No astronomer is insane enough to believe that comets are made of actual rock as in asteroids or terrestrial rock.

Sol88's electric comet insanity:
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.

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Old 11th November 2018, 07:17 PM   #163
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No comets are MOSTLY ROCKY not MOSTLY ICE as stated by A'Hearn!
Nope, no rock detected. Please show where this happened. Otherwise, ST......
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Old 11th November 2018, 07:19 PM   #164
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Ahh I see a few PM's for me. Seems someone's a sooky la la!
Try that in English, and we might have a clue what you are talking about.
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Old 11th November 2018, 07:26 PM   #165
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Don Scott wrote a paper on Birkeland currents completely nailed it and nothing but venom from the mainstream!!!

So the boys are going it alone now with SAFIRE.

Seems thev'e already out done the "big boys"!

Tokamaks, stellerators...all bull excrement.. ha ha ha giggle snort. assume all they need is a few more billion dollars and bingo. Well we are not quite there, so can we a few more billion please, we are nearly there!

Shamefull.
Nope, the idiot Scott wrote a load of garbage, and screwed up the maths;

https://www.christianforums.com/thre...#post-72402122

And shameful has one L. Neither science, nor literacy, is your strong point, is it? Put them together and we get scientific illiteracy. Yes? Lol. Stick to mythology.
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No comets are MOSTLY ROCKY not MOSTLY ICE as stated by A'Hearn!
A "comets are MOSTLY ROCKY" lie about Michael F. A’Hearn's article.

Comets: looking ahead by Michael F. A’Hearn
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At the simplest level, a very basic question is whether comets are mostly ice or mostly rock/dirt/refractory material. Whipple’s [2] model of the dirty snowball, the rst quantitative model, envisioned cometary nuclei as mostly ice, although our understanding has been evolving more toward mostly rock, particularly for 67P/C-G for which refractory/volatile ratios as high as 6 have been cited [3,4]
He is not stating that comets are mostly rock or "rocky".
He is stating that his opinion is that we are beginning to think that refractory/volatile ratios are "mostly rock" where the refractory material is dust, not rock.

The question is more whether the few measurements we have (Tempel 1, 67 P, others?) are typical of comets or outliers.
Tempel 1 and 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko are short period comets. It is possible that they have sublimated volatiles during their lifetime and many visits to the Sun.
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Old 11th November 2018, 07:52 PM   #167
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A "comets are MOSTLY ROCKY" lie about Michael F. A’Hearn's article.

Comets: looking ahead by Michael F. A’Hearn

He is not stating that comets are mostly rock or "rocky".
He is stating that his opinion is that we are beginning to think that refractory/volatile ratios are "mostly rock" where the refractory material is dust, not rock.

The question is more whether the few measurements we have (Tempel 1, 67 P, others?) are typical of comets or outliers.
Tempel 1 and 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko are short period comets. It is possible that they have sublimated volatiles during their lifetime and many visits to the Sun.

Oh, sorry didn't realise it was just an opinion!

He's stating comets are mostly NOT ice but mostly ARE rock!

let have a real close look at the statement
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At the simplest level, a very basic question is whether comets are mostly ice or mostly rock/dirt/refractory material. Whipple’s [2] model of the dirty snowball, the rst quantitative model, envisioned cometary nuclei as mostly ice, although our understanding has been evolving more toward mostly rock, particularly for 67P/C-G for which refractory/volatile ratios as high as 6 have been cited [3,4]

Did'nt read dust anywhere rc, why not?
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Seems the EU mob where on the money from the start.
Nope. That bunch of uneducated cretins have never been right about anything. Eh?
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He's stating comets are mostly NOT ice but mostly ARE rock!
Nope. Zero rock detected. As proven. Show us the detection if you believe otherwise, or ST....
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Old 11th November 2018, 08:11 PM   #170
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No the great M.A'Hearn said ROCK.

unless you think he meant "ice" in which case you'd be as deluded as your are about "not having written in black and white in front of me, so it not real".

Like over on Phys.org!
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BUT YOU DO SEE ROCK in A'Hearn's paper and he stated comets are mostly ROCK, not the simplistic Whipple dirtysnowball

I'd give the poor bloke a little more credit than bagging him out.

Get over it champ!


Comets are MOSTLY ROCK!
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No the great M.A'Hearn said ROCK.

unless you think he meant "ice" in which case you'd be as deluded as your are about "not having written in black and white in front of me, so it not real".

Like over on Phys.org!

BUT YOU DO SEE ROCK in A'Hearn's paper.


Get over it champ!
Nope, no rock detected in any paper about comets. Ever. Show the detection. It is that simple that even simple minded people can figure it out. Just point to it, or ST.....
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Sorry? Are you the idiot cantdrive in disguise? Or just too chicken to post on there?
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No, cantdrive can show you up over on phys.org.

Mine is here.
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Are you stating A'Hearn is deluded?

Just one more time for the slower learners here.

Whipple thought comets were MOSTLY ICE with some dust.

A'Hearn thinks comets are mostly rock.

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actualy I tell i lie

Whipple thought comets were made up of ice,rock,dust.

A'Hearn's opinion, according to RC, is they are composed mostly of rock!


Is he an idiot or something because he did not no the difference between ice and rock?
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Now how do those jets work?

You've had a couple years now to confirm the pressurized nozzles!

Very telling the OSIRIS images!
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Comets ARE NOT mostly ice but mostly rock. Not some impossible mixture of ice and dust that looks like rock but ROCK
You seem to be backtracking on your earlier enlightenment that ROCK could be a mixture of dust and ice?
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No, cantdrive can show you up over on phys.org.

Mine is here.
Which he's never managed to do, being as scientifically illiterate as you.
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Is he an idiot or something because he did not no the difference between ice and rock?
I keep telling you - there is no rock. End of story. For the umpteenth time, point to the detection of rock by the instruments, or quit with the lying. There is rocky type, i.e. compact dust, and there is fluffy dust. And there is ice. Nothing else. Provably. There is no rock. As any idiot who understands what density is would understand.
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Old 12th November 2018, 03:15 AM   #179
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Now how do those jets work?

You've had a couple years now to confirm the pressurized nozzles!

Very telling the OSIRIS images!
Plenty of ways the jets can occur, as has been explained in the literature. Nobody with an IQ above that of a trilobite thinks that they are electrical woo. If you think otherwise, let's see the detections. All you have is faith-based, unscientific word salad. Not a jot of evidence.
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Not a rock. Stop lying. An asteroid is a rock. What happens to them? Zilch. Why not? Try answering indagator's long ago question that you predictably avoided.
The total lack of response to this post shows that the ec woo has been admitted by its proponents to be scientifically unfeasible.
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The total lack of response to this post shows that the ec woo has been admitted by its proponents to be scientifically unfeasible.

Originally Posted by jonesdave116 View Post
Time to get back to basics, after all of Sol's gish-galloping and avoidance. Let us remind ourselves of the core claims of the neo-Velikovskian, scientifically impossible woo that is the 'electric comet'.



Pure Velikovskian woo. Easily dismissed, as cometary surfaces are not at all like those of any rocky planet. Not to mention the impossibility of these 'electrical interactions'.



So, why don't asteroids on elliptical orbits show cametary behaviour? And why are their measured densities much greater than comets?



What weak electric field is this? Where has it been measured? Why would it be there?



What 'electrical stresses'? And the only glowing going on is mostly due to sunlight reflected from dust.



Oh dear, EDM (lol). Scientifically impossible nonsense. No discharges detected by the magnetometer. Pure woo.



See above.



Which is an outright lie. This was written in 2006, at which time dozens of comets had had H2O definitively detected at them. This goes back to the Kuiper Airborne Observatory observations of Halley in 1985, and Vega's subsequent detections in-situ in 1986.



Which is rendered moot by the previous. However, no negative O ions are observed, and there are nowhere near enough H+ ions to create even 1 litre of water. And the solar wind is travelling too quickly to combine with the non-existent O-. And the solar wind is getting nowhere near the comet when it is most active. Pretty dumb stuff.

http://thunderbolts.info/pdf/ElectricComet.pdf

So, it would appear that this electric comet woo is not only dead, but was never actually alive, due to its scientific impossibility. It can only have been dreamed up by people who are completely clueless about physics in general, and comets in particular. Possibly two thirteen year olds after a glue sniffing session? Certainly not by intelligent adults.
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Are you stating A'Hearn is deluded?

Just one more time for the slower learners here.

Whipple thought comets were MOSTLY ICE with some dust.

A'Hearn thinks comets are mostly rock.



actualy I tell i lie

Whipple thought comets were made up of ice,rock,dust.

A'Hearn's opinion, according to RC, is they are composed mostly of rock!


Is he an idiot or something because he did not no the difference between ice and rock?
I want to be sure I do not misunderstand: the sole basis for your claim that comets are “ROCK” is your personal understanding of what one scientist wrote in one document, right? (Leave aside, for now, questions about how well - or not - your personal understanding aligns with the author’s intent)

Or, you are relying (entirely?) on the logical fallacy “argument from authority”, right?

To be clear, you have done none of these things:
- downloaded relevant data and performed your own, quantitative analyses
- done your own, independent, detailed examination of papers reporting findings on the composition of comets
- independently assessed the validity and robustness of the reported methods used for estimating the composition of comets
- through objective, independently verifiable, methods, identified the key areas of inconsistency between the many reports of estimates of comets’ composition
- (there’s more, but this will do for now).
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Thumbs down Usual lies about Michael F. A’Hearn's article to derail from electric comet insanity

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He's stating comets are mostly NOT ice but mostly ARE rock!
Usual lies about Michael F. A’Hearn's article to derail from his electric comet insanity.

Comets: looking ahead by Michael F. A’Hearn
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At the simplest level, a very basic question is whether comets are mostly ice or mostly rock/dirt/refractory material. Whipple’s [2] model of the dirty snowball, the rst quantitative model, envisioned cometary nuclei as mostly ice, although our understanding has been evolving more toward mostly rock, particularly for 67P/C-G for which refractory/volatile ratios as high as 6 have been cited [3,4]
Refractory material = dust.

It is a lie that A’Hearn is stating that comets mostly ARE rock when that is his question.
It is a lie that A’Hearn is stating that comets are mostly rock when his question is about "rock/dirt/refractory material".
It is an insulting lie that this is support for electric comet insanity.

Nothing to do with Sol88's electric comet insanity:
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.

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No the great M.A'Hearn said ROCK.
A "ROCK" lie about Michael F. A’Hearn's article to derail from his electric comet insanity.

ROCK (uppercase) is his electric comet insanity.
Comets made of ices and dust are described as ices and "rock/dirt/refractory material".
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Are you stating A'Hearn is deluded?
Insults A'Hearn to derail from his electric comet insanity.

A'Hearn was a sane astronomer who knew that comets were made of ices and dust with no actual rock. The question he asked was about the ratio of ices to not ices ("rock/dirt/refractory material")

Nothing to do with Sol88's electric comet insanity:
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.
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Just one more time for the slower learners here....
Usual insults and lies to derail from his electric comet insanity.

All astronomers from the 1950's onward knew the physical evidence that comets are made of ices and dust. That is why it is insulting to accuse a prominent astronomer (A'Hearn) of stating that comets are mostly rock without that this is not the electric comet insanity of actual rock.

Whipple's model says nothing about the proportion of ices and dust. What Whipple thought is irrelevant. What A'Hearn thought is irrelevant. What matters is the physical evidence. There is not enough evidence to conclusively show that a typical comet has more dust than ices when all we have are measurements from a few comets.

Sol88's electric comet insanity:
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.
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Old 12th November 2018, 02:22 PM   #187
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A'Hearn's opinion, according to RC, is they are composed mostly of rock!
Lies about my posts to derail from his electric comet insanity.

Soll88 has been insulting A'Hearnby accusing him of being too stupid to know that comets are made of ices and dust (regardless of the name it is called).

A'Hearn's opinion according to the fact that he studied comets was that comets are made of ices and dust. In one discussion meeting he called this dust "rock/dirt/refractory material".

Comets: looking ahead by Michael F. A’Hearn
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At the simplest level, a very basic question is whether comets are mostly ice or mostly rock/dirt/refractory material. Whipple’s [2] model of the dirty snowball, the rst quantitative model, envisioned cometary nuclei as mostly ice, although our understanding has been evolving more toward mostly rock, particularly for 67P/C-G for which refractory/volatile ratios as high as 6 have been cited [3,4]
Sol88's electric comet insanity:
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.
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Old 12th November 2018, 02:30 PM   #188
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Now how do those jets work?...!
Usual lies about jets to derail from his electric comet insanity about jets.

We know how comet jets work. This is not his delusion about "pressurized nozzles!" !

Stupidity about OSIRIS images which include images of real jets that are not his insanity of electrical discharges, e.g. they shine by reflected light not emitted light (vanish in the night-side shadows !).

Sol88's electric comet insanity:
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.
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Old 13th November 2018, 12:42 AM   #189
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Now how do those jets work?
No, you have that wrong. The true question is "how does the EC work"?
And as long as you and your thunder friends do not give a satisfactory, qualitative and quantitative explanation, then you have no right to ask others to "defend/explain" the mainstream model.
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Old 13th November 2018, 02:01 AM   #190
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Electric Fields, dusty plasma.


You aware of the new findings, are you not?
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Old 13th November 2018, 02:38 AM   #191
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Lies about my posts to derail from his electric comet insanity.

Soll88 has been insulting A'Hearnby accusing him of being too stupid to know that comets are made of ices and dust (regardless of the name it is called).

A'Hearn's opinion according to the fact that he studied comets was that comets are made of ices and dust. In one discussion meeting he called this dust "rock/dirt/refractory material".

Comets: looking ahead by Michael F. A’Hearn





Sol88's electric comet insanity:
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.
are you suggesting A'Hearn did not know the difference between ice and rock?

i think you are insulting A'Hearn.
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Old 13th November 2018, 02:41 AM   #192
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Usual insults and lies to derail from his electric comet insanity.

All astronomers from the 1950's onward knew the physical evidence that comets are made of ices and dust. That is why it is insulting to accuse a prominent astronomer (A'Hearn) of stating that comets are mostly rock without that this is not the electric comet insanity of actual rock.

Whipple's model says nothing about the proportion of ices and dust. What Whipple thought is irrelevant. What A'Hearn thought is irrelevant. What matters is the physical evidence. There is not enough evidence to conclusively show that a typical comet has more dust than ices when all we have are measurements from a few comets.
Knew??

ok then.
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Old 13th November 2018, 04:05 AM   #193
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Electric Fields, dusty plasma.


You aware of the new findings, are you not?
fake news, electric fields do not exist in space
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No, you have that wrong. The true question is "how does the EC work"?
Never has never will, just sits around the pub and draws the dole
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are you suggesting A'Hearn did not know the difference between ice and rock?

i think you are insulting A'Hearn.
No, Mike A'Hearn authored and co-authored more papers on comets than you can shake a stick at. From memory, he was the PI of the Deep Impact mission. The one that completely shattered this EC woo, remember? Here is one of his papers from that mission;

Deep Impact: Excavating Comet Tempel 1
A'Hearn, M. F. et al
https://www.researchgate.net/profile...13c0000000.pdf

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The comet’s outer layer is composed of 1- to 100-micrometer fine particles with negligible strength (<65 pascals).
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Old 13th November 2018, 12:59 PM   #196
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Originally Posted by Sol88 View Post
You aware of the new findings, are you not?
Idiotic and lying citations of real science to derail from his electric comet insanity.

The root of a comet tail - Rosetta ion observations at comet 67P/Churyumov--Gerasimenko is not a paper on "Electric Fields".
New insights on comet tails are blowing in the solar wind is not an article about a paper on "Dusty Plasma".
Neither paper is abut his electric comet insanity.

Sol88's electric comet insanity:
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.
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Originally Posted by Sol88 View Post
are you suggesting A'Hearn did not know the difference between ice and rock?

i think you are insulting A'Hearn.
Lies about my posts to derail from his electric comet insanity.

Soll88 has been insulting A'Hearnby accusing him of being too stupid to know that comets are made of ices and dust (regardless of the name it is called).

A'Hearn's opinion according to the fact that he studied comets was that comets are made of ices and dust. In one discussion meeting he called this dust "rock/dirt/refractory material".
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Old 13th November 2018, 01:07 PM   #198
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Knew??
Confused about the meaning of "knew" to detail from his electric comet insanity.

Usual insults and lies to derail from his electric comet insanity.
The 1950's are dates in the past. "All astronomers from the 1950's onward know the physical evidence that comets are made of ices and dust." is incorrect English. Thus I wrote "All astronomers from the 1950's onward knew the physical evidence that comets are made of ices and dust."
In addition:
"All astronomers today know the physical evidence that comets are made of ices and dust."
"All astronomers in the future will know the physical evidence that comets are made of ices and dust."

Sol88's electric comet insanity:
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.

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Another spate of ~303 items of ignorance, idiocy (citing irrelevant mainstream papers), delusion, derails, insults, and lies from 27 July 2018 to 8 November 2018
Another spate of ~336 items of ignorance, idiocy (citing irrelevant mainstream papers), delusion, derails, insults, and lies from 27 July 2018 to 14 November 2018
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Old 13th November 2018, 08:45 PM   #200
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No, Mike A'Hearn authored and co-authored more papers on comets than you can shake a stick at. From memory, he was the PI of the Deep Impact mission. The one that completely shattered this EC woo, remember? Here is one of his papers from that mission;

Deep Impact: Excavating Comet Tempel 1
A'Hearn, M. F. et al
https://www.researchgate.net/profile...13c0000000.pdf
Yup, he's the man!

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The impact excavated a large volume of
very fine (microscopic) particles, too many
to have been pulverized in the impact itself;
thus, they were preexisting either as very
fine particles or as weak aggregates of such
particles.
Deep Impact: Excavating comet Tempel 1

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Assuming an
albedo of 0.1, appropriate for mafic silicate liquids,
the total mass of the droplets was about 4000 kg.
Because this is 10 times the mass of the impactor, we
assume that the glowing material originated mainly
from the comet and is thus probably silicate in
composition.
DEEP IMPACT: THE FIRST SECOND

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At the simplest level, a very basic question is whether comets are mostly ice or mostly rock/dirt/refractory material. Whipple’s [2] model of the dirty snowball, the first quantitative model, envisioned cometary nuclei as mostly ice, although our understanding has been evolving more toward mostly rock, particularly for 67P/C-G for which refractory/volatile ratios as high as 6 have been cited [3,4].
Comets: looking ahead

Yeah, nah M.A'Hearn knew the difference between dust and rock.

MAINSTREAMS understanding of what comets are made of is (slowly) evolving towards MOSTLY rock.

Hydrated ROCK at that!
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