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Old 18th September 2018, 10:58 AM   #441
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
I'm not sure if you read that wrong or wrote it wrong, but what the article actually says is;

A small difference, two words in different places. But still quite significant.
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Old 18th September 2018, 12:19 PM   #442
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Is Cruz really going to lose? A well-known Texas Republican, lose to a hitherto unknown Democrat? Really?
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Old 18th September 2018, 12:26 PM   #443
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Is Cruz really going to lose? A well-known Texas Republican, lose to a hitherto unknown Democarat? Really?
That's O'Rourke's greatest asset: that people know Cruz.
Everbody hates Cruz.
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Old 18th September 2018, 12:30 PM   #444
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I'd just point out that my mis-spelling of 'Democrat' was a typo, and not an attempt to start a new nickname for them. Sorry!
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Old 18th September 2018, 12:32 PM   #445
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
Is Cruz really going to lose? A well-known Texas Republican, lose to a hitherto unknown Democrat? Really?
I wouldn't bet any money on it, but it has become a close race in a state where there shouldn't be a close race. The GOP is nervous and will be spending a lot of money down here just to hold onto a seat that they never thought would be in play.

If they actually lose the seat it will be a huge upset.
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Old 18th September 2018, 01:15 PM   #446
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I wouldn't bet any money on it, but it has become a close race in a state where there shouldn't be a close race. The GOP is nervous and will be spending a lot of money down here just to hold onto a seat that they never thought would be in play.

If they actually lose the seat it will be a huge upset.
And that is going to be a problem for the GOP"They are going to have to spend money and other resources in races which should have been "safe' for them. That means less resources for the swing races.
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Old 18th September 2018, 01:26 PM   #447
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
Is Cruz really going to lose? A well-known Texas Republican, lose to a hitherto unknown Democrat? Really?
Latest high quality poll:

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Released Tuesday, the survey found Cruz with 54 percent support and O'Rourke, an El Paso congressman, with 45 percent. Only 1 percent of those polled were undecided.
Linky.

The odds by 538 are ~25%, while the odds of Dems taking the Senate are ~30%.
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Old 18th September 2018, 01:28 PM   #448
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
I'd just point out that my mis-spelling of 'Democrat' was a typo, and not an attempt to start a new nickname for them. Sorry!
It'd be a rather positive nickname, though, comparing them to either gold or diamonds.
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Old 18th September 2018, 01:34 PM   #449
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The funny thing about this election for the GOP is that they should have much better chances. But the problem is all Trump, who they have found has taken over the party.

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A private survey conducted for the Republican National Committee and obtained by Bloomberg Businessweek contains alarming news for Republicans hoping to hold on to control of Congress in November: Most Trump supporters don’t believe there’s a threat that Democrats will win back the House. President Trump’s boasts that a “red wave” could increase Republican majorities appear to have lulled GOP voters into complacency, raising the question of whether they’ll turn up at the polls.

While most election forecasters, as well as strategists in both parties, believe Democrats are likely to win the 23 seats necessary to take control of the House of Representatives, Republican voters aren’t convinced, the survey shows.
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Old 18th September 2018, 02:27 PM   #450
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Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha View Post
The funny thing about this election for the GOP is that they should have much better chances. But the problem is all Trump, who they have found has taken over the party.



Linky.
Hubris, baby;it will get you every time.
But, that being said, I am taking that story with a ton of salt.
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Old 18th September 2018, 03:13 PM   #451
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Starve the Beast lives on (shh, don't talk about it until after the election):

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Asked Monday if the Trump administration would address "entitlement reform," White House chief economic advisor Larry Kudlow said it will "probably" look at "larger entitlements" next year. Entitlement reform generally refers to changes or cuts to large government social programs such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid or food stamps.

"I don't want to be specific, I don't want to get ahead of our own budgeting, but we'll get there," Kudlow said at the Economic Club of New York. "But I agree, we have to be tougher on spending."
But how they are trying to lie about reframe the issue is hilarious:

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The GOP is now trying to flip Democrats' Medicare arguments ahead of November's key elections. Republican candidates and Trump have contended Democrats will pull money from the health program for seniors in order to pay for Medicare for All, a single-payer system that has gained more traction recently in the Democratic Party.

"They want to raid Medicare to pay for socialism," Trump recently claimed at a rally in Indiana, where Sen. Joe Donnelly, another vulnerable Democrat, is defending his seat this year.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott, a Republican trying to win a Senate seat in a state with a large population of retirees, also recently contended that "if you want to protect Medicare, vote Republican."

Medicare for All plans would actually expand Medicare benefits, not cut them.
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Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha View Post
Starve the Beast lives on (shh, don't talk about it until after the election):



But how they are trying to lie about reframe the issue is hilarious:



Linky.
Ever since the busses with the bloody red hand print exclaiming "keep your government hands off my medicare" nothing has really surprised me when it comes to Republican health care messaging.
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I remember Republicans screaming about "socialized medicine" back in the early '60's; proclaiming it would be the end of all things American. Now they love them some Medicare. Interestingly, so do insurance companies.
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Old 18th September 2018, 05:33 PM   #454
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Hubris, baby;it will get you every time.
But, that being said, I am taking that story with a ton of salt.
Wise choice - my first response was along the lines of "Okay, everyone, they say their sides' guards are down, let's drive them out!"
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Is Cruz really going to lose? A well-known Texas Republican, lose to a hitherto unknown Democrat? Really?
Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha View Post
Latest high quality poll:
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Released Tuesday, the survey found Cruz with 54 percent support and O'Rourke, an El Paso congressman, with 45 percent. Only 1 percent of those polled were undecided.

Linky.

The odds by 538 are ~25%, while the odds of Dems taking the Senate are ~30%.
The only way I could see it happening is if Democrats are much more motivated than Republicans to come to the polls. It's possible (although I wouldn't say likely) that a poll wouldn't pick up on an "enthusiasm gap". Traditionally Republican voters tend to be more likely to vote in midterms.
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Old 19th September 2018, 03:41 AM   #456
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I wouldn't bet any money on it, but it has become a close race in a state where there shouldn't be a close race. The GOP is nervous and will be spending a lot of money down here just to hold onto a seat that they never thought would be in play.

If they actually lose the seat it will be a huge upset.
It would prove Trump right.... If only Cruz had dumped his current wife and employed married an immigrant model who worked illegally, like Trump did.
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Old 19th September 2018, 05:42 AM   #457
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Cruz: If Beto O'Rourke wins, BBQ will be banned in Texas. Yes, I'm serious.


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The day before, a Cruz campaign event on Saturday in the town of Columbus was met with tofu-serving protesters from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, prompting a warning from the Republican senator, the Austin American-Statesman reported.

"When I got here someone told me that even PETA was protesting and giving out barbecued tofu, so I got to say, they summed up the entire election: If Texas elects a Democrat, they're going to ban barbecue across the state of Texas," Cruz told supporters, according to the newspaper.

I didn't realize that PETA were official representatives of the Democratic Party in Texas.
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Cruz: If Beto O'Rourke wins, BBQ will be banned in Texas. Yes, I'm serious.





I didn't realize that PETA were official representatives of the Democratic Party in Texas.
They are the Inquisition! Their weapons are fear and...

...well, fears is pretty much all they got.
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Old 19th September 2018, 06:26 AM   #459
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Cruz: If Beto O'Rourke wins, BBQ will be banned in Texas. Yes, I'm serious.

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Does Cruz just think that Texas Republicans are that gullible and stupid, or does he know for a fact that they are?
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They are the Inquisition! Their weapons are fear and...

...well, fears is pretty much all they got.
To be fair, the claim that Democrats would ban BBQ in Texas is also surprising.
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To be fair, the claim that Democrats would ban BBQ in Texas is also surprising.

Democrats want to turn Texas into California, and everyone in California eats nothing but tofu.

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"We are seeing tens of millions of dollars flooding into the state of Texas from liberals all over the country who desperately want to turn the state of Texas blue," Cruz said. "They want us to be just like California, right down to tofu and silicon and dyed hair."
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Democrats want to turn Texas into California, and everyone in California eats nothing but tofu.
Nothing wrong with tofu, but it ain't meat. See the Robert Earl Keen song about barbecue.

Of course, vegetarianism isn't a plank of the Democrat's platform. Screw Cruz.
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Isn't there a real chance that Cruz was joking? I hate the guy but he's not stupid enough to make this claim seriously, is he?
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Isn't there a real chance that Cruz was joking? I hate the guy but he's not stupid enough to make this claim seriously, is he?

When he Tweeted, he included several crying with laughter emojis, but the speech to his supporters was less clear in its intent.
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Isn't there a real chance that Cruz was joking? I hate the guy but he's not stupid enough to make this claim seriously, is he?
I agree, but his problem is that he is not a funny person. and his followers are not funny people. So, it becomes hard to tell when they are looking and they even have a hard time telling themselves when they are joking. So, while he may have been joking, I bet my mother-in-law beloved him. Also, I bet his wife dyes her hair.
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To be fair, the claim that Democrats would ban BBQ in Texas is also surprising.
You still find the things they do surprising? Interesting...
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You still find the things they do surprising? Interesting...
Who, the Democrats in Texas?

Yeah, it would be mighty surprising if they attempted to ban BBQ. I used to date a vegetarian Democrat from Dallas, but she was an outlier, no doubt.

My Democratic cousin in Austin eats fine beef, I tell you what.
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Isn't there a real chance that Cruz was joking? I hate the guy but he's not stupid enough to make this claim seriously, is he?
I agree, but his problem is that he is not a funny person.
Well, he does try to be funny on occasion, although he seems to come across as creepy instead of funny.

Remember the video he did where he cooked bacon by wrapping it around the barrel of a gun. (Do a search for "machine gun bacon")
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Well, he does try to be funny on occasion, although he seems to come across as creepy instead of funny.

Remember the video he did where he cooked bacon by wrapping it around the barrel of a gun. (Do a search for "machine gun bacon")
I actually like the cruz in this video more than the real thing:

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Who, the Democrats in Texas?

Yeah, it would be mighty surprising if they attempted to ban BBQ. I used to date a vegetarian Democrat from Dallas, but she was an outlier, no doubt.

My Democratic cousin in Austin eats fine beef, I tell you what.
No, what the current Republican (and occassionally Democratic) candidates say and do to get elected, and accuse their opponents of to leverage fear.

Joke thoroughly explained, all humor now erased.
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Cruz is upset with Beto for suggesting Ambee Guyger should be fired.
Sorry, no link as I'm on my phone.
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Cruz is upset with Beto for suggesting Ambee Guyger should be fired.
Sorry, no link as I'm on my phone.
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From: https://mic.com/articles/191362/ted-...ing#.Us3KnXcfJ
“I wish Beto O’Rourke & Democrats weren’t so quick to always blame the police officer,” Cruz said Saturday during an interview with Houston’s KRIV. “She may have been in the wrong ... but I don’t think we should jump to conclusions.”
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Screw Cruz.
Scruz.
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Another day another poll:

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U.S. Rep. Beto O’Rourke, D-El Paso, leads Republican incumbent Ted Cruz by 2 percentage points among likely voters, according to an Ipsos online poll released Wednesday in conjunction with Reuters and the University of Virginia. O’Rourke has been closing the gap over the last several months, but this is the first poll that puts him ahead of Cruz.

Forty-seven percent of likely voters told Reuters they would vote for O'Rourke, while 45 percent said they would cast their ballot for Cruz. Three percent said they would vote for "Other," and 5 percent said "None." The margin of error on that portion of the poll was 3.5 percentage points.

A Quinnipiac poll released Tuesday put Cruz 9 percentage points ahead of O’Rourke among likely voters. That poll was based on phone interviews, while the Ipsos poll used an online survey. But it’s trying to predict who will show up on Election Day that shifts the numbers, said Ipsos Vice President Chris Jackson.

Ipsos is trying to gauge political enthusiasm on each side, said Jackson. The poll asked respondents to estimate the likelihood that they’d vote in the midterm elections on a scale from one to 10. “More Democrats are registering at the highest part of the scale, at the 10, than the Republicans,” Jackson said. And that’s what’s interesting, he said, because Republicans usually have the momentum advantage in Texas.
Linky.

I am dubious about hoping for a substantially different turn out, but it is certainly possible. It is hard to predict how it will happen this election.
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Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha View Post
Another day another poll:



Linky.

I am dubious about hoping for a substantially different turn out, but it is certainly possible. It is hard to predict how it will happen this election.
Online polls have not yet impressed. But as fewer people answer their phones pollsters are going to have to find a way to make online polling work.

Trump was good at making labels stick. This may hurt Lyin Ted.
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Texans should be glad that O'Rouke is so concerned with their health.
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Originally Posted by LSSBB View Post
They are the Inquisition! Their weapons are fear and...

...well, fears is pretty much all they got.
Hell, I don't think PETA has much of anything. They are a national joke, except for a few ignorant celebs who will support anything that makes them look "progressive".
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Well, he does try to be funny on occasion, although he seems to come across as creepy instead of funny.

Remember the video he did where he cooked bacon by wrapping it around the barrel of a gun. (Do a search for "machine gun bacon")
Damned good way to ruin a gun barrel......
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Democrats want to turn Texas into California, and everyone in California eats nothing but tofu.
Never been to Bakersfield, have they?
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Damned good way to ruin a gun barrel......

Shouldn't the bacon grease act as a preservative?



And on the plus side, it's liable to attract bears. Preferably while he's asleep.

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