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Old 3rd November 2018, 01:27 AM   #681
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Originally Posted by Brainster View Post
Maybe a false flag terrorist attack?
I think Trump's November surprise, if he has a brain in his head, should be to STFU about the Fearful Feral Caravan and spend three days talking economy, economy, economy. They're pretty clearly going to come out of the Senate races with 51 to 53 (plus Pence) and that's where the populist "are you a-scared, yet" message bears fruit. The suburbanites in the swing house districts are not really worried about the dark hoards. I was worried that they'd hit on a winner with "Jobs not Mobs", tbh. Leave it to the truculent baby in the White House, though, to pander to Stephen Miller's instincts and go with his long-favored xenophobia fear factor.
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Old 3rd November 2018, 01:39 AM   #682
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Beware their tired, their poor,
Their huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of their teeming shore.
Democrats send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, they are rapists, they bring crime, there are all sorts of things, I swear there are Middle Easterners,
I will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it!!!1
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Old 3rd November 2018, 01:45 AM   #683
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
I think Trump's November surprise, if he has a brain in his head, should be to STFU about the Fearful Feral Caravan and spend three days talking economy, economy, economy. They're pretty clearly going to come out of the Senate races with 51 to 53 (plus Pence) and that's where the populist "are you a-scared, yet" message bears fruit. The suburbanites in the swing house districts are not really worried about the dark hoards. I was worried that they'd hit on a winner with "Jobs not Mobs", tbh. Leave it to the truculent baby in the White House, though, to pander to Stephen Miller's instincts and go with his long-favored xenophobia fear factor.
Hordes, not hoards and yes they do concern the suburbanites greatly. The suburbs are square in the crosshairs of the "diversity" initiative. Obama (along with Clinton and Bush) and cohorts wanted to flood brown people into white neighborhoods.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d8269e5fc79e
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Old 3rd November 2018, 01:47 AM   #684
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Originally Posted by Baylor View Post
Hordes, not hoards and yes they do concern the suburbanites greatly. The suburbs are square in the crosshairs of the "diversity" initiative. Obama (along with Clinton and Bush) and cohorts wanted to flood brown people into white neighborhoods.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d8269e5fc79e
The horror of brown people in white neighbourhoods.
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Take it to Stromfront.
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Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
The horror of brown people in white neighbourhoods.
As Tucker would remind us,.... "Without even asking white people if it was okay!"
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Old 3rd November 2018, 03:13 AM   #688
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Michael Avenatti's first political ad is here, regrettably

Attorney Michael Avenatti isn't running now, but his first-ever political ad shows he's almost certainly running soon.

On Thursday, Avenatti released a midterm election ad that clearly targets his longtime opponent President Trump. But instead of calling out Trump by name, a handful of people splash across the same leafy background to shout about how they're generally "mad as hell" and they're "not going to take it anymore." And at the end of the spot, Avenatti compels viewers to "join the fight club," which most likely refers to "The Fight" Political Action Committee he founded.

-- The Week (Nov 1, 2018)

"The Democratic party's nominee in 2020 better be a white male. When you have a white male making the arguments, they carry more weight."

-- Michael Avenatti (Oct 25, 2018)
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Old 3rd November 2018, 03:36 AM   #689
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Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows View Post
"The Democratic party's nominee in 2020 better be a white male. When you have a white male making the arguments, they carry more weight."

-- Michael Avenatti (Oct 25, 2018)
Are you appalled and disgusted by this open racism?

We see a lot of these kinds of tu quoque’s dont we. “Look at the disgusting racist thing this Democrat said. If a Republican said it, imagine the outrage.” There is of course silence from these people about anything Republicans do say. I saw an African American comedian say this stuff on Twitter, his feed full of Trump support. Some bloody odd stuff going on in America.

If Avanatti did say what you quoted, it is Bizarre given the wide respect that Obama earnt. The quoted words dont like like they are driven by white supremacy but pragmatism and astounding boneheadedness.



ETA: Found the full quote. It’s still stupid but if you are going to quote him, lets be honest about it.
“I think it better be a white male.

When you have a white male making the arguments, they carry more weight.

Should they carry more weight? Absolutely not.

But do they? Yes.“
https://www.indy100.com/article/demo...tti-us-8602391

Get your act together America. You have totally loat the plot.
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Old 3rd November 2018, 03:44 AM   #690
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Originally Posted by Baylor View Post
You should be totally ashamed of yourself. This is not what America used to represent and what made it great. You may have ancestors who fought a world war against this kind of ignorant hate. Give yourself an uppercut.
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Old 3rd November 2018, 04:07 AM   #691
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Are you appalled and disgusted by this open racism?

Don't shoot the messenger -- Michael Avenatti is your albatross, not mine.
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Old 3rd November 2018, 04:28 AM   #692
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Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows View Post
Don't shoot the messenger -- Michael Avenatti is your albatross, not mine.
Either you are in some cheap playground attempt to rile or score an imaginary point over a perceived other, or you are utterly ignorant of my veiws or those of many American democrats.

On reading even the full quote as distinct from your dishonestly quote mined one, I think Avanati is a fool to say it. Either way, there is a lot of projection going on by American conservatives, with their sick and twisted ideas of what it means to be a Christian, who have shackled their dignities to such an abominable leader in Trump.

Let me hold this mirror for you on that point:

“I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.” Donald Trump.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/do...venue-comment/

America wake up to yourself. Aspire to be great again.
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Old 3rd November 2018, 04:39 AM   #693
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Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
You should be totally ashamed of yourself. This is not what America used to represent and what made it great. You may have ancestors who fought a world war against this kind of ignorant hate. Give yourself an uppercut.
What the hell are you talking about?
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Old 3rd November 2018, 04:42 AM   #694
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What the hell are you talking about?
Dont be coy. Tells us more about your graph and the horror of brown people moving into white neighbourhoods.
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Murder rate goes up.
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Old 3rd November 2018, 04:49 AM   #696
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Originally Posted by Baylor View Post
Murder rate goes up.
It’s great with Trump president. You can bring your racism out of the dark, emboldened by the the security of numbers. Still could get you fired though as bussiness are not keen on it so I wouldnt get too carried away.

Hey, and this is a skeptics forum where you have been as long as I have so I wont bother to attempt to school you in the messy business of finding causation in correlation.
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Old 3rd November 2018, 04:53 AM   #697
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What the hell are you talking about?
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Old 3rd November 2018, 05:54 AM   #698
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Dont be coy. Tells us more about your graph and the horror of brown people moving into white neighbourhoods.

Or even provide a source for the data in the graph. It could have been created by a random person using an art program for all we know. I'm assuming that the source is so unreliable that it would have produced gales of laughter if it had been included.
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It’s because whites are genetically and culturally superior, amirite?
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What the hell are you talking about?
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What the hell are you talking about?
Dog whistling.

These elections are important. Need to stop the rise of white supremacy.
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Whatever dude.......weird
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Whatever dude.......weird
Well go on. Explain what you meant by associating brown people in white neighbourhoods and murder rates. Start a thread and tell us all about it. Lay it out on the line.
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I think Avenatti is a fool to say it.

That's no way to talk about the soon-to-be Democratic party nominee.

"Join the fight club." -- Michael Avenatti
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That's no way to talk about the soon-to-be Democratic party nominee.

"Join the fight club." -- Michael Avenatti
See that is how a democracy is suposed to work. Leaders and political figures are always to be held accountable for their words and actions. They should never be above criticism. The opposite is the kind of thing you see in dictatorships and cults of personality. It is the stuff of dystopian science fiction like 1984 and big brother.

Now when I was growing up the story out of America through it’s films, TV and leaders was that was bad stuff. That is what Soviet Russia was about. It is what North Korea was about. But now we have pathetic blindly following citizens and a defacto state propaganda station where Trump’s turds sell like roses, his absurd lies never called out, and his dangerously decisive rhetoric allowed to stand.

That is not America when it was great. I hope these elections are a step back towards an America of integrity and noble values.
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That's no way to talk about the soon-to-be Democratic party nominee.

"Join the fight club." -- Michael Avenatti
I'll lay 10-1 odds. Any amount you wish.
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It’s because whites are genetically and culturally superior, amirite?

With a quick internet search, the ACSH has defended the use of DDT, asbestos, and Agent Orange in the past. Make of that what you will concerning their reliability.
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Are you appalled and disgusted by this open racism?

We see a lot of these kinds of tu quoque’s dont we. “Look at the disgusting racist thing this Democrat said. If a Republican said it, imagine the outrage.” There is of course silence from these people about anything Republicans do say. I saw an African American comedian say this stuff on Twitter, his feed full of Trump support. Some bloody odd stuff going on in America.

If Avanatti did say what you quoted, it is Bizarre given the wide respect that Obama earnt. The quoted words dont like like they are driven by white supremacy but pragmatism and astounding boneheadedness.
It's pretty much true. It's why Obama learned to code switch (change his accent, voice, movements based on the audience). I mean...

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Doesn't mean it should be true, but it definitely is. And every podcast I've listened to with both men and women hosts, anyone who complains about someone's voice will complain about the woman.

Can those be overcome? Sure, in some cases. Hillary would be president now instead of the idiot were it not for the letter Comey sent after all, and she still won the popular vote. And that lawyer likely wouldn't win a single delegate in the primary unless he shapes up, very fast.
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Polls suggest Republicans likely to hold on to Senate
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Dog whistling.

These elections are important. Need to stop the rise of white supremacy.
It’s not a dog whistle, it’s a bullhorn.

Also, the graph posted indicates the rate at which ethnic groups are the victims of crime, not the rate at which they commit it.

Weird how when people out themselves as racist, they almost always simultaneously reveal themselves to be idiots as well.
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What the hell are you talking about?
Pretty sure everyone ELSE here knows exactly what he is talking about.

Before you attempt to suggest peoples genetic makeup makes them more 'murderous', perhaps you should read about a certain point in history where a society of 'superior' white people decided murdering 6 million jews, and another 5 million other 'undesirables' was a good idea.
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Hordes, not hoards and yes they do concern the suburbanites greatly. The suburbs are square in the crosshairs of the "diversity" initiative. Obama (along with Clinton and Bush) and cohorts wanted to flood brown people into white neighborhoods.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d8269e5fc79e
My neighborhood got better when brown people moved in...
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I'm trying to figure out if it was better or worse when racist even bothered to try and hide it.
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I'm trying to figure out if it was better or worse when racist even bothered to try and hide it.
There's a certain wry satisfaction when they play coy and then just come out with i, then act all shocked, shocked! SHOCKED!! that anyone would suggest they are racist.

The satisfaction is merely that we kinda already knew and saw it coming down 5th Avenue.
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And also...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...htmlstory.html

ETA: http://apps.chicagotribune.com/news/...ing/index.html
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Pretty sure everyone ELSE here knows exactly what he is talking about.

Before you attempt to suggest peoples genetic makeup makes them more 'murderous', perhaps you should read about a certain point in history where a society of 'superior' white people decided murdering 6 million jews, and another 5 million other 'undesirables' was a good idea.
And then look at what the US, Uk, and especially the former USSR did to that society , and what happened to quite a few of its leaders (of the ones that were found guilty. the "lucky" ones got long prison sentences; the "unlucky" ones had their necks "stretched" ...)
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post
It’s not a dog whistle, it’s a bullhorn.

Also, the graph posted indicates the rate at which ethnic groups are the victims of crime, not the rate at which they commit it.

Weird how when people out themselves as racist, they almost always simultaneously reveal themselves to be idiots as well.
It's also weird how "conservatists" wants to define racism as any recognition of race or how different races are treated in society. Such a benign definition hides the real meaning: discriminatory and bigoted behavior caused by a belief in the superiority of ones own race and the inferiority of others.
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