[Ed] Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories....

dudalb · 29th January 2020, 05:41 PM

I have not yet had the nerve to go to the nut websites and check on this, but I would be surprised if they are not going bonkers over the corona virus outbreak.

OK, I did not get the nerve to go the sites themselves but found this summary of some of the wackiness from "Rolling Stone:"

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...theory-942416/

Trebuchet · 29th January 2020, 05:49 PM

Um, it's "coronavirus".

dudalb · 29th January 2020, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Um, it's "coronavirus".

Yeah, my bad. I admit my penchant for typos.

rjh01 · 30th January 2020, 12:28 AM

I made the following post in the other thread. I think it is on topic in here too.

Originally Posted by rjh01

The list below gives a list of disinformation. It does not give references. Though they often just need to say the original information is unsourced.

Here's A Running List Of Disinformation Spreading About The Coronavirus

Vixen · 30th January 2020, 08:41 AM

There is featured a tweeted photo of a girl enjoying some [revolting-looking] bat soup.

This is not disinformation as scientists studying the DNA of the virus say it is indeed bat origin in nature. How did it get into the human virus chain? It almost certainly is a result of the Chinese fondness for wild animal consumption.

Giordano · 30th January 2020, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Vixen

There is featured a tweeted photo of a girl enjoying some [revolting-looking] bat soup.

This is not disinformation as scientists studying the DNA of the virus say it is indeed bat origin in nature. How did it get into the human virus chain? It almost certainly is a result of the Chinese fondness for wild animal consumption.

1. I doubt this: coronavirus has an RNA genome and does not replicate through a DNA intermediate. There is no viral DNA. Furthermore the virus would not leave any sequences or other traces in a host's DNA. Perhaps you are thinking of reverse transcription/PCR which can identify viral RNA either on its own or in a host cell?

2. There is now some evidence that this virus may have first appeared prior to the infections associated with the food markets. Not definitive but enough to indicate more studies will be required to be certain or not. A photo of a girl eating bat soup (or to be accurate, what is presented as a photo of a girl eating bat soup) does not address this question.

Belz... · 30th January 2020, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Yeah, my bad. I admit my penchant for typos.

You should be ahismaed of yoursellf&

theprestige · 30th January 2020, 12:40 PM

The Corona virus? I blame Big Lime.

William Parcher · 30th January 2020, 01:01 PM

Folks, keep in mind that this thread is strictly for conspiracy theories. It is not a thread for misconceptions which are not specifically conspiracy theories.

If this thread is not kept to conspiracy theories then it is a parallel thread to the one already existing in Science/Medicine Forum and therefore is subject to merging.

carlitos · 30th January 2020, 01:03 PM

Steve Pieczinik, on the Alex Jones Show, said that he was patient zero with pneumonia due to this corona virus outbreak, and that he treated himself. He apparently got it from meeting with some Chinese intelligence officials.

He also claimed that we have no Surgeon General or health infrastructure in the USA.

William Parcher · 30th January 2020, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

Steve Pieczinik, on the Alex Jones Show, said that he was patient zero with pneumonia due to this corona virus outbreak, and that he treated himself. He apparently got it from meeting with some Chinese intelligence officials.

He also claimed that we have no Surgeon General or health infrastructure in the USA.

Is this a conspiracy theory?

dudalb · 30th January 2020, 03:23 PM

How long until the hucksters show up, selling a "cure for the coronavirus THEY do not want you do know about" .
I could see the Jude Law character in "Contagion" happening for real.

dudalb · 30th January 2020, 03:39 PM

Only conspiracy theory I find plausible is that the Chinese Government might be lowballing and juggling the figures to make it seem less serious then it really is to try to avert panic. Authoratarian governments like to do stuff like that.

dudalb · 30th January 2020, 04:44 PM

Just found out Qanon is peddling drinking what amounts to diluted Industrial Bleach as a cure for coronavirus...

William Parcher · 30th January 2020, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Just found out Qanon is peddling drinking what amounts to diluted Industrial Bleach as a cure for coronavirus...

That's misinformation, not a conspiracy.

carlitos · 30th January 2020, 06:55 PM

Thanks for your input.

zorro99 · 30th January 2020, 07:56 PM

Here’s what somebody on Facebook says:

Quote:

Lysol is effective against the human and SARS Corona virus and oxivir wipes are effective against a specific strain of the coronavirus. Wash your hands often and don't touch your face.

zorro99 · 30th January 2020, 07:58 PM

Here’s what somebody else says:

Quote:

The World Health Org is a part of the globalist elite NewWorld Order, as well as the CDC.

BStrong · 31st January 2020, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

Steve Pieczinik, on the Alex Jones Show, said that he was patient zero with pneumonia due to this corona virus outbreak, and that he treated himself. He apparently got it from meeting with some Chinese intelligence officials.

He also claimed that we have no Surgeon General or health infrastructure in the USA.

My take on 'ol Steve in another thread:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=299

He's still the same douchebag fantasist.

zorro99 · 31st January 2020, 02:49 PM

Some are saying the virus is a sign of the end times and predicted in the Bible.

dudalb · 31st January 2020, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by zorro99

Here’s what somebody else says:

Actually if the coronavirus got that guy, it would be a plus for the human gene pool....

dudalb · 31st January 2020, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by zorro99

Some are saying the virus is a sign of the end times and predicted in the Bible.

I am so not surprised.

dudalb · 31st January 2020, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by BStrong

My take on 'ol Steve in another thread:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=299

He's still the same douchebag fantasist.

Another guy who if the virus did get him it would be a net gain for the human race.

William Parcher · 31st January 2020, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by zorro99

Some are saying the virus is a sign of the end times and predicted in the Bible.

That's not a conspiracy theory.

novaphile · 31st January 2020, 04:12 PM

The Pentacostals are probably frothing at the mouth about now...

After all we have cane toads (plague of frogs)
Locusts.
Mice.
Fires.
Floods.

William Parcher · 31st January 2020, 05:16 PM

Here is a genuine conspiracy theory...

Originally Posted by ScienceAlert

Multiple posts on Facebook and Twitter alleged that the novel coronavirus was created on purpose - with theories including that it was manufactured by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The posts included patents to buffer their claim. But these were in fact patents registered in an effort to combat different strains of coronavirus, for example by developing vaccines.

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-...an-coronavirus

Dr.Sid · 31st January 2020, 06:00 PM

Well, boomer killer would be very useful to many countries.

dudalb · 31st January 2020, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

That's not a conspiracy theory.

Ever here of normal topic drift?

The Great Zaganza · 1st February 2020, 08:03 PM

Did you know that people killed by the virus reanimate as Zombies?
That's why the Chinese rush to have them cremated.
It's the only explanation.

Graham2001 · 2nd February 2020, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

Here is a genuine conspiracy theory...

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-...an-coronavirus

Here's a Metabunk thread on another 'the virus was artificially created' claim:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/cla...navirus.11103/

Since no one has bought this up, it's interesting to note that the 1975 British TV series 'Surviviors', set in the aftermath of a devastating viral outbreak had a title sequence implying that the illness resulted from the accidental release of a bioweapon under development by the Chinese!

By contrast the 2005 remake of the series blamed the fictional illness on an attempt to genetically engineer a cure for the common cold.

zorro99 · 2nd February 2020, 06:46 PM

QAnon-ers’ Magic Cure for Coronavirus: Just Drink Bleach!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...est?ref=scroll

Q Anon is telling people to drink bleach for Coronavirus.

Armitage72 · 3rd February 2020, 08:40 AM

There was a paper uploaded to bioRxiv prior to peer review, which claimed that the novel coronavirus had genetic sequences from HIV and implied that it had been deliberately created as a bioweapon. It's since been withdrawn, but Forbes has an article about it.

Quote:

The work, by a group based in India, was entitled “Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag.”

“Based on analysis of multiple, very short regions of proteins in the novel coronavirus, the bioRxiv paper claimed that the new coronavirus may have acquired these regions from HIV,” said Arinjay Banerjee, PhD, a postdoctoral fellow in virology at McMaster University in Ontario, Canada who has extensively studied coronaviruses.

However, the authors then speculated that this might not be a coincidence and perhaps the bits of genetic code were put there intentionally. The conspiracy theory was addressed today by a scientist from the Wuhan Institute of Virology at the Chinese Academy of Sciences, who rubbished the claims.

Essentially, the scientists found that yes, there are some additions in the nCoV coronavirus originating in Wuhan that other coronaviruses don’t have, which are similar to pieces of sequence found in HIV. But, the kicker here is that these pieces of genetic code are also found in countless other viruses and there’s no reason to believe they specifically came from HIV, at all.

dudalb · 3rd February 2020, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by zorro99

QAnon-ers’ Magic Cure for Coronavirus: Just Drink Bleach!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...est?ref=scroll

Q Anon is telling people to drink bleach for Coronavirus.

Oh, the bleach would probably kill the coronavirus...problem is it would kill a lot of other stuff in your system...you know, the stuff you need to live.
Either that, or it would be so diluted down at to be useless.

HotRodDeluxe · 4th February 2020, 10:10 PM

Natural News is getting on the act (there's a surprise) by claiming it is 'irrefutable' that the virus was engineered in a lab:

http://dailyheadlines.net/irrefutabl...20DH.NET%206PM

Dr. Francis Boyle claims it was engineered:

https://greatgameindia.com/dr-franci...arfare-weapon/

dudalb · 5th February 2020, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by HotRodDeluxe

Natural News is getting on the act (there's a surprise) by claiming it is 'irrefutable' that the virus was engineered in a lab:

http://dailyheadlines.net/irrefutabl...20DH.NET%206PM

Dr. Francis Boyle claims it was engineered:

https://greatgameindia.com/dr-franci...arfare-weapon/

Actually the coronavirus would be a lousy biological warfare weapon.
But then the people who scream biological weapon at every opportunity don't seem to understand what you want a biological weapon to do....

HotRodDeluxe · 5th February 2020, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Actually the coronavirus would be a lousy biological warfare weapon.
But then the people who scream biological weapon at every opportunity don't seem to understand what you want a biological weapon to do....

I suppose we mustn't let reason interfere with a good story.

dudalb · 5th February 2020, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by HotRodDeluxe

I suppose we mustn't let reason interfere with a good story.

Coronavirus is too slow acting for an effective biological weapon. You want a disease that acts much quicker to disable/kill the enemies Military.

HotRodDeluxe · 5th February 2020, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Coronavirus is too slow acting for an effective biological weapon. You want a disease that acts much quicker to disable/kill the enemies Military.

Oh, I agree, it's a silly claim. Dr. Francis Boyle said they were trying to weaponise SARS and they got this. Well, this is hardly as effective as SARS. O_o

Armitage72 · 6th February 2020, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Coronavirus is too slow acting for an effective biological weapon. You want a disease that acts much quicker to disable/kill the enemies Military.

Well, if you're targeting an entire population, you would probably want to increase the contagiousness while delaying the onset of symptoms to reduce visibility and prevent the authorities from taking preventative action until as many people are infected as possible.
That's how I always win the browser-based game Pandemic.

Pandemic 2, I've never beaten however. Someone sneezes in Outer Mongolia and Madagascar shuts down everything.

catsmate · 6th February 2020, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

That's misinformation, not a conspiracy.

The implication that "They" are preventing the dissemination of this cure makes it one.

29th January 2020, 05:41 PM	#1
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories.... I have not yet had the nerve to go to the nut websites and check on this, but I would be surprised if they are not going bonkers over the corona virus outbreak. OK, I did not get the nerve to go the sites themselves but found this summary of some of the wackiness from "Rolling Stone:" https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...theory-942416/
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29th January 2020, 05:49 PM	#2
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29th January 2020, 05:55 PM	#3
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Um, it's "coronavirus". Yeah, my bad. I admit my penchant for typos.
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30th January 2020, 12:28 AM	#4
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30th January 2020, 08:41 AM	#5
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 20,821	There is featured a tweeted photo of a girl enjoying some [revolting-looking] bat soup. This is not disinformation as scientists studying the DNA of the virus say it is indeed bat origin in nature. How did it get into the human virus chain? It almost certainly is a result of the Chinese fondness for wild animal consumption.
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30th January 2020, 09:28 AM	#6
Giordano Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 17,646	Originally Posted by Vixen There is featured a tweeted photo of a girl enjoying some [revolting-looking] bat soup. This is not disinformation as scientists studying the DNA of the virus say it is indeed bat origin in nature. How did it get into the human virus chain? It almost certainly is a result of the Chinese fondness for wild animal consumption. 1. I doubt this: coronavirus has an RNA genome and does not replicate through a DNA intermediate. There is no viral DNA. Furthermore the virus would not leave any sequences or other traces in a host's DNA. Perhaps you are thinking of reverse transcription/PCR which can identify viral RNA either on its own or in a host cell? 2. There is now some evidence that this virus may have first appeared prior to the infections associated with the food markets. Not definitive but enough to indicate more studies will be required to be certain or not. A photo of a girl eating bat soup (or to be accurate, what is presented as a photo of a girl eating bat soup) does not address this question.
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30th January 2020, 12:35 PM	#7
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30th January 2020, 12:40 PM	#8
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30th January 2020, 01:01 PM	#9
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30th January 2020, 01:03 PM	#10
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA! USA! Posts: 22,786	Steve Pieczinik, on the Alex Jones Show, said that he was patient zero with pneumonia due to this corona virus outbreak, and that he treated himself. He apparently got it from meeting with some Chinese intelligence officials. He also claimed that we have no Surgeon General or health infrastructure in the USA.

30th January 2020, 01:12 PM	#11
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 25,760	Originally Posted by carlitos Steve Pieczinik, on the Alex Jones Show, said that he was patient zero with pneumonia due to this corona virus outbreak, and that he treated himself. He apparently got it from meeting with some Chinese intelligence officials. He also claimed that we have no Surgeon General or health infrastructure in the USA. Is this a conspiracy theory?
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30th January 2020, 03:23 PM	#12
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	How long until the hucksters show up, selling a "cure for the coronavirus THEY do not want you do know about" . I could see the Jude Law character in "Contagion" happening for real.
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30th January 2020, 03:39 PM	#13
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Only conspiracy theory I find plausible is that the Chinese Government might be lowballing and juggling the figures to make it seem less serious then it really is to try to avert panic. Authoratarian governments like to do stuff like that.
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30th January 2020, 04:44 PM	#14
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Just found out Qanon is peddling drinking what amounts to diluted Industrial Bleach as a cure for coronavirus...
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30th January 2020, 05:41 PM	#15
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 25,760	Originally Posted by dudalb Just found out Qanon is peddling drinking what amounts to diluted Industrial Bleach as a cure for coronavirus... That's misinformation, not a conspiracy.
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30th January 2020, 06:55 PM	#16
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA! USA! Posts: 22,786	Thanks for your input.

30th January 2020, 07:56 PM	#17
zorro99 Muse Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 973	Here’s what somebody on Facebook says: Quote: Lysol is effective against the human and SARS Corona virus and oxivir wipes are effective against a specific strain of the coronavirus. Wash your hands often and don't touch your face.
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30th January 2020, 07:58 PM	#18
zorro99 Muse Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 973	Here’s what somebody else says: Quote: The World Health Org is a part of the globalist elite NewWorld Order, as well as the CDC.
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31st January 2020, 12:54 PM	#19
BStrong Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Francisco Posts: 13,079	Originally Posted by carlitos Steve Pieczinik, on the Alex Jones Show, said that he was patient zero with pneumonia due to this corona virus outbreak, and that he treated himself. He apparently got it from meeting with some Chinese intelligence officials. He also claimed that we have no Surgeon General or health infrastructure in the USA. My take on 'ol Steve in another thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=299 He's still the same douchebag fantasist.
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31st January 2020, 02:49 PM	#20
zorro99 Muse Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 973	Some are saying the virus is a sign of the end times and predicted in the Bible.
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31st January 2020, 03:59 PM	#21
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Originally Posted by zorro99 Here’s what somebody else says: Actually if the coronavirus got that guy, it would be a plus for the human gene pool....
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31st January 2020, 04:00 PM	#22
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Originally Posted by zorro99 Some are saying the virus is a sign of the end times and predicted in the Bible. I am so not surprised.
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31st January 2020, 04:01 PM	#23
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Originally Posted by BStrong My take on 'ol Steve in another thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=299 He's still the same douchebag fantasist. Another guy who if the virus did get him it would be a net gain for the human race.
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31st January 2020, 04:10 PM	#24
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 25,760	Originally Posted by zorro99 Some are saying the virus is a sign of the end times and predicted in the Bible. That's not a conspiracy theory.
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31st January 2020, 04:12 PM	#25
novaphile Quester of Doglets Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sunny South Australia Posts: 2,938	The Pentacostals are probably frothing at the mouth about now... After all we have cane toads (plague of frogs) Locusts. Mice. Fires. Floods.
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31st January 2020, 05:16 PM	#26
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 25,760	Here is a genuine conspiracy theory... Originally Posted by ScienceAlert Multiple posts on Facebook and Twitter alleged that the novel coronavirus was created on purpose - with theories including that it was manufactured by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The posts included patents to buffer their claim. But these were in fact patents registered in an effort to combat different strains of coronavirus, for example by developing vaccines. https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-...an-coronavirus
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31st January 2020, 06:00 PM	#27
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31st January 2020, 06:16 PM	#28
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Originally Posted by William Parcher That's not a conspiracy theory. Ever here of normal topic drift?
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1st February 2020, 08:03 PM	#29
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2nd February 2020, 06:00 PM	#30
Graham2001 Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,329	Originally Posted by William Parcher Here is a genuine conspiracy theory... https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-...an-coronavirus Here's a Metabunk thread on another 'the virus was artificially created' claim: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/cla...navirus.11103/ Since no one has bought this up, it's interesting to note that the 1975 British TV series 'Surviviors', set in the aftermath of a devastating viral outbreak had a title sequence implying that the illness resulted from the accidental release of a bioweapon under development by the Chinese! By contrast the 2005 remake of the series blamed the fictional illness on an attempt to genetically engineer a cure for the common cold.
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2nd February 2020, 06:46 PM	#31
zorro99 Muse Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 973	QAnon-ers’ Magic Cure for Coronavirus: Just Drink Bleach! https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...est?ref=scroll Q Anon is telling people to drink bleach for Coronavirus.
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3rd February 2020, 08:40 AM	#32
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 5,243	There was a paper uploaded to bioRxiv prior to peer review, which claimed that the novel coronavirus had genetic sequences from HIV and implied that it had been deliberately created as a bioweapon. It's since been withdrawn, but Forbes has an article about it. Quote: The work, by a group based in India, was entitled “Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag.” “Based on analysis of multiple, very short regions of proteins in the novel coronavirus, the bioRxiv paper claimed that the new coronavirus may have acquired these regions from HIV,” said Arinjay Banerjee, PhD, a postdoctoral fellow in virology at McMaster University in Ontario, Canada who has extensively studied coronaviruses. However, the authors then speculated that this might not be a coincidence and perhaps the bits of genetic code were put there intentionally. The conspiracy theory was addressed today by a scientist from the Wuhan Institute of Virology at the Chinese Academy of Sciences, who rubbished the claims. Essentially, the scientists found that yes, there are some additions in the nCoV coronavirus originating in Wuhan that other coronaviruses don’t have, which are similar to pieces of sequence found in HIV. But, the kicker here is that these pieces of genetic code are also found in countless other viruses and there’s no reason to believe they specifically came from HIV, at all.

3rd February 2020, 03:15 PM	#33
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Originally Posted by zorro99 QAnon-ers’ Magic Cure for Coronavirus: Just Drink Bleach! https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...est?ref=scroll Q Anon is telling people to drink bleach for Coronavirus. Oh, the bleach would probably kill the coronavirus...problem is it would kill a lot of other stuff in your system...you know, the stuff you need to live. Either that, or it would be so diluted down at to be useless.
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4th February 2020, 10:10 PM	#34
HotRodDeluxe Muse Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 692	Natural News is getting on the act (there's a surprise) by claiming it is 'irrefutable' that the virus was engineered in a lab: http://dailyheadlines.net/irrefutabl...20DH.NET%206PM Dr. Francis Boyle claims it was engineered: https://greatgameindia.com/dr-franci...arfare-weapon/
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5th February 2020, 03:11 PM	#35
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Originally Posted by HotRodDeluxe Natural News is getting on the act (there's a surprise) by claiming it is 'irrefutable' that the virus was engineered in a lab: http://dailyheadlines.net/irrefutabl...20DH.NET%206PM Dr. Francis Boyle claims it was engineered: https://greatgameindia.com/dr-franci...arfare-weapon/ Actually the coronavirus would be a lousy biological warfare weapon. But then the people who scream biological weapon at every opportunity don't seem to understand what you want a biological weapon to do....
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