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1st August 2022, 01:34 PM | #761 |
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1st August 2022, 01:39 PM | #762 |
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The governor of Michigan as well as those at the capital on jan 6th would beg to differ. There are almost certainly other examples I can't recall or am unaware of at the moment. And then there are all the Democratic politicians at all levels of government who get death threats to them and their families. Numerous have already resigned as a result. This isn't tin hat stuff, it's a continuation of what's already occurring.
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1st August 2022, 01:58 PM | #763 |
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Who's denying this is happening? Not I. I was responding to uke2se's claim that the GOP might be willing to assassinate Dem senators in order to get the votes to impeach and convict Biden. It had nothing to do with assassination plots by right-wing militia groups or lone wolf extremist nut cases. Context is important.
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1st August 2022, 11:48 PM | #767 |
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2nd August 2022, 02:49 AM | #769 |
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One of the things that Trump and his circle of ring-kissers keep claiming is that there was a legitimate concern about the security and validity of the elections from the general public. However, can the proving, atleast this is the conclusion I have drawn so far based on what I have read, that the source of these "concerns" was the WH and Trump's own staff be a strategy to ensure that Trump cannot use the "I was just exercising the will of the people" excuse.
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Well, if you are saying what I think you are saying... (that while there was "legitimate concern about the security and validity of the elections from the general public", the actual source of that concern was The Fat Orange Turd's Big Lie) then I agree 100%
Take away the Big Lie, and the concern would not have been there. |
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It's that, of late, there have been statements from Trump that his actions were guided by the concerns of "the people," and not that his office was the trigger for these concerns. Is he attempting to shift the blame on to his supporters and claim that he was just acting in good faith?
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2nd August 2022, 05:07 AM | #773 |
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I think Susheel was just pointing out how Trump seems to be shifting his talking point.
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2nd August 2022, 07:19 AM | #776 |
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Debated where to put this (since its not directly related to Jan6), but probably doesn't deserve a thread of its own...
From: The Guardian After spending months reviewing the 2020 election in Arizona last year, Cyber Ninjas, the firm overseeing the so-called audit said it believed nearly 300 dead people may have voted....“After spending hundreds of hours reviewing these allegations, our investigators were able to determine that only one of the 282 individuals on the list was deceased at the time of the election. All other persons listed as deceased were found to be current voters,” Arizona’s attorney general, Mark Brnovich, a Republican, wrote...Brnovich added: “Our agents investigated all individuals that Cyber Ninjas reported as dead, and many were very surprised to learn they were allegedly deceased.” I was dead... but I got better! That sort of thing shouldn't come as any surprise, given the quality of work that Cyberninjas engaged in. |
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2nd August 2022, 10:41 AM | #780 |
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Almost anything that comes out of that pouty little mouth can be proven false.
And yes, he's attempting to shift the blame from himself. He's never accepted responsibility for anything he's done wrong in his life but loves to take credit for what others have done right. |
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3rd August 2022, 12:04 AM | #783 |
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Federal Grand Jury has subpoenaed Pat Cipollone regarding Jan. 6.
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3rd August 2022, 12:10 AM | #784 |
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John Di Domenico does his impression of Trump's Jan. 7 outtakes. Pretty funny.
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4th August 2022, 12:19 PM | #787 |
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I am genuinely interested in this because of how many times he took the 5th when he was in front of the panel:
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4th August 2022, 02:34 PM | #788 |
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It would truly be epic, EPIC, if Trump was finally destroyed by the simple incompetence of Alex Jones choice of attorney.
It could only get better if Trump personally recommended him to Jones. |
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4th August 2022, 02:59 PM | #789 |
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I really want to see the depth and breadth of these texts. There's a part of me that think even Alex Jones's lawyers were so sick of Jones's sleaze that they might have had a moment of conscience. That the world needs to hear all this and the only way they could get it out was to do this.
I know. The idea of a lawyer having a conscience is mutually exclusive. |
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Are they any closer to putting together legislation that was the whole legislative purpose for these subpoenas? People seem happy they are out there finding the the truth, but it isn't clear that they can constitutionally do that?
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The Electoral Count Reform Act is one piece of legislation so far:
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Again the issue is that "A Group of Elites overriding the will of the people for the good of people" isn't like a perversion of the Electoral College or some procedural technicality that the Electoral College let's happen... it's what the Electoral College is in form and function, both letter and spirit.
We have to get rid of it, not go "Well let's just not let it do the thing it was designed to do." |
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100% agree. The EC is an undemocratic and archaic institution that needs to go. The presidency should be determined like every single other elected position: by direct, popular vote. The EC undermines our concept of "one person, one vote" and no vote having more power than another.
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5th August 2022, 12:22 PM | #798 |
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And it isn't meant to give smaller states protection from larger states. When the Constitution was ratified, the EC gave the most populous state at the time, Virginia, a tremendous amount of power.
The reality is, that presidential elections hinge on "Swing states". And the 2 most important swing states are 2 of the most populated. It's not even the entirety of any swing states. It's mostly a handful of districts that can flip year to year. Those tend to be the affluent suburbs around cities like Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. |
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And the other issue the Right has decided since they can't win fairly, I mean they've openly admitted this and can't put the genie back in the bottle no matter how hard they try, BUT they've sold us on the whole "Okay so that means if you want things to be fair, you're just biased against us." thing.
I mean we've seen it here. The same troll argument everytime we talk about getting rid of the EC. No it's impossible to want the state that has *checks notes* has two escalators in the entire state to not have the same amount of political power as as the 4th the largest economy in the world without just being a cuck for the Democrats. |
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All of the excuses for the EC are lies. It was never meant to protect the rural areas, it was never meant to protect the smaller states, it was never about "making sure most of the States elect a President."
It was a failsafe because as forward thinking and Democratic as the Founding Fathers were they were still terrified of the common people. |
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