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Old 9th November 2016, 03:25 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by marplots View Post
Where does the surprise and shock come from? They offered us two crappy candidates and we chose one. It doesn't much matter which, since half the country would still be singing the blues.


So you voted for kang.....
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Old 9th November 2016, 03:27 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by Lennart Hyland View Post
If I were a US citizen I would move to Mexico and pay for the wall!
Or move north. Apparently the Canada immigration web site crashed under heavy load.
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Old 9th November 2016, 03:36 AM   #43
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post
"Markets are Plunging around the World" says Bloomberg headline.
Not Moscow stock exchange, apparently. This tells it all...
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Old 9th November 2016, 03:38 AM   #44
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I've long thought that it was impossible to underestimate the intellect of the US electorate. Then, as it became apparent that Trump would lose, I had to loosen my grip on that concept. It's bleakly reassuring that I was right to begin with.
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Old 9th November 2016, 03:47 AM   #45
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Trump is a moron. But I'm willing to bet that Trump will have the ability to go further to the left on health care then Obama was able to.
With the warm approval of a republican Congress?
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Old 9th November 2016, 04:00 AM   #46
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Under, I'd say.

If I had a billion US dollars right now, I'd be changing it to rupees as fast as you can print them.

Trump will bring economic disaster to USA. The markets will open like Black Monday tomorrow morning. I'd even say that 600 on Dow futures tonight is a steal.

The nightmare reality will hit tomorrow.

Has Alex Jones been appointed to cabinet yet?
But it will be the Greatest Depression(tm). Trump does nothing half way.
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Old 9th November 2016, 04:02 AM   #47
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Originally Posted by Caper View Post
Trump is a moron. But I'm willing to bet that Trump will have the ability to go further to the left on health care then Obama was able to.
Why or how? they are determined to undo that. The ACA was the conservatives ideas, the only thing they have left is massive deregulation.
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Old 9th November 2016, 04:03 AM   #48
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We have to go back and look at all the "day one" style speeches he made. They all do it, promise to do X or Y within the first hundred days, or whatever. Remember Obama closing Guantanamo? Like that.
So you are betting on congress blocking his excesses?
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Old 9th November 2016, 04:06 AM   #49
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Trump is now staying up all night, frantically googling "what does the president do".
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I've said it before, and I won't have to say it again: Hillary Clinton has never won an election that she wasn't handed on a silver platter. Worst. Candidate. Ever.
This was a silver platter. She wanted gold though.
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Old 9th November 2016, 04:13 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
Very good point.

He may not just destroy America, but the entire planet.

Well played, US voters.
Nay, the entire universe and the fabric of space/time is in peril!!!!



Perilous peril!!
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Old 9th November 2016, 04:18 AM   #52
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Congratulations America, you have just made Vladimir Putin the most powerful Geo-Political figure in the world.

Ol' Vlad will be piddling himself laughing as he eyes up some of the Balkan States and Ukraine for some "close attention".
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Old 9th November 2016, 04:24 AM   #53
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Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
Very good point.

He may not just destroy America, but the entire planet.

Well played, US voters.
Could the election of Trump as President be the trigger point for The Great Filter, and an explanation for the Fermi Paradox?

"Every planetary civilization at some point elects a complete and utter doofus as leader of that planet's greatest military power and triggers the self destruction of said civilization"
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Old 9th November 2016, 04:33 AM   #54
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Or move north. Apparently the Canada immigration web site crashed under heavy load.
What about the Mexican one?
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Old 9th November 2016, 04:33 AM   #55
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I switched back and forth between CNN and Fox. I don't know how many times the CNN team kept saying WE when talking about what Clinton needed to win. The Fox team at least managed to keep from doing that.
The hubris of the Clinton supporters was what did them in. Trump is and never has been the idiot they proclaimed. Lies about what he said were jammed down our throats sideways.
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I wasn't a huge Trump fan. But I'm enjoying watching all the smug liberals turning into pouty crybabies.

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I watched the results on CNN last evening and you could see, starting about 8PM EST, it all started to go bad for Clinton. She lost by less than 100,000 votes out of about 120 million cast. What a shame as I'm sure she would have been a very good president.

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Mr. Trump vows...
  1. curb regulations that strangle businesses
  2. cut taxes to unleash the economy.
Very scary. For No. 1, I just read an article about the accelerating ice melt in Greenland and I'm sure the "regulations" The Don is talking about "curbing" are, in great measure, environmental ones.

As to No. 2, I took the tax test based on Trump's tax plan and, like most working class people, my federal income tax would rise by about one-third. Did the working/middle class people who voted for him even know that? Because let's face it, you don't cut taxes on the people in the middle in order to "unleash the economy," you cut taxes on those at the top. The problem is, they've been cutting taxes for those in the top percentiles of personal income for over thirty years. When do these people start creating all the jobs we keep hearing about? Well I take that back. They've created a lot of $10 an hour jobs, many of them part-time (meaning no benefits).

Unbelievable.
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Old 9th November 2016, 04:41 AM   #58
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If I were a US citizen I would move to Mexico and pay for the wall!
Come here to Scotland and pay Trump to build a wall round your own house, so he can force you out to build a golf course. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ours-home.html
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Old 9th November 2016, 04:43 AM   #59
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When it comes to economic plans, the Democrats should give Trump and the GOP everything they want. After the economy tanks, the Republicans can't blame it on Democratic obstructionism. Let's show the American people what trickle-down economics really is.
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Old 9th November 2016, 04:46 AM   #60
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I watched the results on CNN last evening and you could see, starting about 8PM EST, it all started to go bad for Clinton. She lost by less than 100,000 votes out of about 120 million cast. What a shame as I'm sure she would have been a very good president.
Actually, it appears she won the popular vote.

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Old 9th November 2016, 04:51 AM   #61
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I think Trump will use his power as POTUS to prosecute and harm his political enemies and any media that criticizes him. I hope I'm wrong.
Putin is already chumming up to him, and making critics disappear is one of Putin's favorite tactics.
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I know a President can pardon a criminal. Can one also have a person arrested and incarcerated?
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Is he going to abuse his powers to put Hillary in jail, like he promised?
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I know a President can pardon a criminal. Can one also have a person arrested and incarcerated?
You mean like sweeping them up without a trial and putting them in prison somewhere in Cuba?

That doesn't sound legal.
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I know a President can pardon a criminal. Can one also have a person arrested and incarcerated?
In theory they could order federal law enforcement to do that, but it would be grounds for impeachment. Unless of course he gets some kind of blanket authorization from Congress...
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I wonder how long until he is caught abusing the powers of Presidency.
What the Groper in Chief abuse power?
With the power he has now he can grope the world.
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If I were a US citizen I would move to Mexico and pay for the wall!
I guess you've not been to Mexico lately. Stay in Sweden, you are better off.
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The coal mines are not coming back. Coal mining jobs will continue to decline.
Don't tell the Chinese that, nor about the coal fired electrical grid. *ssshhhhhhhhh*

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Trump is now staying up all night, frantically googling "what does the president do".
I'd almost believe that, and it made me smile, but I don't think he's got enough humility to do that.

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I wasn't a huge Trump fan. But I'm enjoying watching all the smug liberals turning into pouty crybabies.
I am not a Trump fan, and I am disgusted by the whinging ... however predictable it might be.
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What the Groper in Chief abuse power?
With the power he has now he can grope the world.
He'll give you a cigarette afterwards.

As to the result of this election: color me surprised. I thought that Trump being politically tone deaf was going to be fatal to his efforts. How did Hillary lose this? Brainster seems to have a point.
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*shrug*

It's always a fight, because the other side always wants to fight.

Wanna see more wars? Wanna see more cops shot dead? Wanna see things get bad for workers?

Let's be clear - white Americans, collectively - that's what you have voted for. Sure, not each and every one of y'all, and for those that voted for Clinton, We've got you. But for those that voted for Trump, you'll get exactly what you voted for, so don't whine.

ETA: Actually, y'all who vote for Johnson or Stein - we've got you, too.

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I wasn't a huge Trump fan. But I'm enjoying watching all the smug liberals turning into pouty crybabies.
Some people just want to see the world burn.
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I guess you've not been to Mexico lately. Stay in Sweden, you are better off.
Don't tell the Chinese that, nor about the coal fired electral grid. *ssshhhhhhhhh*

I'd almost believe that, and it made me smile, but I don't think he's got enough humility to do that.

I am not a Trump fan, and I am disgusted by the whinging ... however predictable it might be.
He'll give you a cigarette afterwards.

As to the result of this election: color me surprised. I thought that Trump being politically tone deaf was going to be fatal to his efforts. How did Hillary lose this? Brainster seems to have a point.
Because voters rejected the Clinton dynasty, it was more a vote Against Obama/ Clinton, than a vote for Trump, if the Dems, had had a real primary instead of just appointing Clinton, to have the first woman President, then Trump wouldn't have stood a chance.
Bill Clinton turned many states like Kentucky Red.
Kentucky could be brought back blue, but it would require, a real candidate, not an appointed dynasty.
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I think Trump will use his power as POTUS to prosecute and harm his political enemies and any media that criticizes him. I hope I'm wrong.
Well, he said he would.
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Because voters rejected the Clinton dynasty, it was more a vote Against Obama/ Clinton, than a vote for Trump, if the Dems, had had a real primary instead of just appointing Clinton, to have the first woman President, then Trump wouldn't have stood a chance.
Bill Clinton turned many states like Kentucky Red.
Kentucky could be brought back blue, but it would require, a real candidate, not an appointed dynasty.

But it was her turn!
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As to the result of this election: color me surprised. I thought that Trump being politically tone deaf was going to be fatal to his efforts. How did Hillary lose this? Brainster seems to have a point.
I'm not sure Hillary's perceived weaknesses are to blame. I suspect it's a combination of Trump being rubber-stamped by the GOP leadership and him tapping into the "white man's rage", bringing out an otherwise reluctant demographic.

Still, Hillary's impopularity with millenials seems to have been a factor too. (Also, her lack of maleness).
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*shrug*

It's always a fight, because the other side always wants to fight.

Wanna see more wars? Wanna see more cops shot dead? Wanna see things get bad for workers?

Let's be clear - white Americans, collectively - that's what you have voted for. Sure, not each and every one of y'all, and for those that voted for Clinton, We've got you. But for those that voted for Trump, you'll get exactly what you voted for, so don't whine.

ETA: Actually, y'all who vote for Johnson or Stein - we've got you, too.
Cheddar goes well with this
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Cheddar goes well with this
You're a perfect example of the white nationalist nonsense that we'll be seeing for the next few years.
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But it was her turn!
Trump will give her a conciliatory groping to show she is still loved.
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I watched the results on CNN last evening and you could see, starting about 8PM EST, it all started to go bad for Clinton. She lost by less than 100,000 votes out of about 120 million cast. What a shame as I'm sure she would have been a very good president.
It looks like she might well have won the popular vote.
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It looks like she might well have won the popular vote.
She was the popular girl but no one asked her to the prom.

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I wonder how long until he is caught abusing the powers of Presidency.
This is more my thought as well. He has an established history of bearing grudges and acting vindictively. I don't think he has the self-restraint to refrain from misusing the mechanisms of state to his personal advantage. Over here in Scotland, he pressurised the Scottish Government to exercise eminent domain and seize land for his golf course, but was denied. God knows how he would have applied the screws if he was in charge of the place.
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Okay joke's over. The attempts to rehabilitate Richard Nixon have gone a bit too far this time. Was a pardon not enough?
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