No one wants to play the Inauguration - Page 12

BobTheCoward · 4th January 2017, 09:15 PM

It doesn't help that by all accounts, Trump is a total Philistine. It's not even really possible to begrudgingly respect the guy if you believe art matters.

Norman Alexander · 4th January 2017, 09:16 PM

It seems no-one has determined who is attending the innauguration event yet. So let me make some educated guesses from 10,000kms away.

1) The KKK Kazoo Band will open, holding burning crosses while playing "Dixie" in front of a Confederate flag.
2) Some street mime, possibly blind, will act out the Second Amendment, accompanied by a hillbilly playing a duck caller.
3) Two Rockettes will perform "Just Jazz Hands" to a Ted Nugent number.
4) Horst Wessel and The Brown Shirt Boys will play some stirring ~~goose-stepping~~ dance music.
5) A genuine singer will perform the National Anthem properly...if they can be heard over the noise of dessert, coffee, and thousands of corporate lobbyists and other hangers-on trying to broker deals with guests.

Yeah, go on! You do better!

luchog · 5th January 2017, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Minoosh

I wonder if any other human being could do what he did with his guitar.

Randy Hansen perhaps.

calebprime · 5th January 2017, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by luchog

Randy Hansen perhaps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2kaa2-NBkk

Ooh, that's in the uncanny valley. Disturbing. I wish I'd never. Thanks, luchog.

alfaniner · 5th January 2017, 10:40 AM

I hear Corey Feldman is available also!

Regnad Kcin · 5th January 2017, 11:00 AM

Why not go with someone who could blow the roof off the place ?

Cleon · 5th January 2017, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

Why not go with someone who could blow the roof off the place ?

Donald doesn't want to be out-Trumped.

applecorped · 5th January 2017, 11:41 AM

Darn that Talladega marching band for playing at Trump's inauguration. They are messing with the narrative.

Mike! · 5th January 2017, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

Why not go with someone who could blow the roof off the place ?

There's an act that was well ahead of it's time.

Slings and Arrows · 6th January 2017, 12:42 AM

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Did word of Trump’s inauguration concert cause a Jackie Evancho sales surge?

Donald Trump tweeted that 16-year-old Jackie Evancho’s "album sales have skyrocketed after announcing her inauguration performance."

So is Trump’s Twitter boast correct? Did Evancho, who is 16, see a steep rise in sales since it was announced she’d be a performer at the Trump inauguration?

He’s right. Evancho’s album sales nearly doubled in the first full week after she was announced as an inauguration performer compared to the previous week. She was also streamed much more often.

We rule the claim True.

Read more:
http://www.politifact.com/pennsylvan...cause-jackie-/ (January 5, 2017)

Good for her, I hope she gets another big spike in sales following her inauguration performance.

ChrisBFRPKY · 6th January 2017, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

It seems no-one has determined who is attending the innauguration event yet. So let me make some educated guesses from 10,000kms away.

1) The KKK Kazoo Band will open, holding burning crosses while playing "Dixie" in front of a Confederate flag.
2) Some street mime, possibly blind, will act out the Second Amendment, accompanied by a hillbilly playing a duck caller.
3) Two Rockettes will perform "Just Jazz Hands" to a Ted Nugent number.
4) Horst Wessel and The Brown Shirt Boys will play some stirring ~~goose-stepping~~ dance music.
5) A genuine singer will perform the National Anthem properly...if they can be heard over the noise of dessert, coffee, and thousands of corporate lobbyists and other hangers-on trying to broker deals with guests.

Yeah, go on! You do better!

1) Hillary Clinton pole dances to "Don't Stop" by Fleetwood Mac, with an encore of "Nasty Girls"
2) The National Anthem is performed while CNN switches to a live view of Colin Kaepernick taking a knee.
3) Obama cries caught live by a close up from a Fox camera.
4) Hillary and Bill are seated between special guests Putin and Julian Assange, again with a live close up from a Fox camera.
5) KISS performs to close the show and Gene Simmons spits fire on the MSNBC and CNN cameras.
Chris B.

Armitage72 · 6th January 2017, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows

Good for her, I hope she gets another big spike in sales following her inauguration performance.

It's always to a performer's benefit if something expands their audience, bringing them to the attention of people who may have never encountered them previously. Rapper LL Cool J experienced a significant increase in CD sales, particularly among white, middle-age women, when he began co-starring on NCIS: Los Angeles. As they say, any publicity is good publicity.

BobTheCoward · 6th January 2017, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows

Good for her, I hope she gets another big spike in sales following her inauguration performance.

Bad for the intelligence of the people who bought the album. The fact that she is simply playing an event is hardly a good assessment of its artistic merit.

Ziggurat · 6th January 2017, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward

Bad for the intelligence of the people who bought the album. The fact that she is simply playing an event is hardly a good assessment of its artistic merit.

That's a rather blinkered interpretation of that statement. It's entirely possible that this performance will expose her to people who have simply never heard her before, but who will like what they hear. So a spike in sales could be because of their assessment of its artistic merits, and not simply because she performed the event.

BobTheCoward · 6th January 2017, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

That's a rather blinkered interpretation of that statement. It's entirely possible that this performance will expose her to people who have simply never heard her before, but who will like what they hear. So a spike in sales could be because of their assessment of its artistic merits, and not simply because she performed the event.

Read back what you wrote. That is the most embarrassing way to admit you became aware of an artist.

Ziggurat · 6th January 2017, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward

Read back what you wrote. That is the most embarrassing way to admit you became aware of an artist.

What the hell are you even talking about? First, I've been aware of her for years. Second, why is it embarrassing to admit you became aware of an artist because they played some venue you were watching for other reasons? That sounds like hipster snobbery: if you didn't learn of an artist before widespread exposure, you're just a poser. And third, way to not address the point.

BobTheCoward · 6th January 2017, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

What the hell are you even talking about? First, I've been aware of her for years. Second, why is it embarrassing to admit you became aware of an artist because they played some venue you were watching for other reasons? That sounds like hipster snobbery: if you didn't learn of an artist before widespread exposure, you're just a poser. And third, way to not address the point.

My reply to your point is that people are learning about the artist the wrong way. Yes it is snobbery. Snobbery in art is important. There are right ways and wrong ways to consume art.

Ziggurat · 6th January 2017, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward

My reply to your point is that people are learning about the artist the wrong way.

Which has **** all to do with their intelligence, which was your claim.

Quote:

Yes it is snobbery. Snobbery in art is important. There are right ways and wrong ways to consume art.

No, you are wrong. Snobbery is important to the inflated sense of self-worth of the snob. It has no importance otherwise. But thank you for confirming that I was completely right about you.

Slings and Arrows · 6th January 2017, 07:26 AM

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You couldn’t get a more appropriately named band to play at Trump’s inauguration – and they’re not afraid!

Country music mega act Big & Rich is not afraid of the backlash other acts have got for even considering performing at President-elect Donald Trump’s inauguration.

Unlike many celebrities who cowered in fear and declined to be involved with Trump’s inauguration, the band said it is “thrilled” to be performing at the gala hosted by the Republican Party of New York and Great Alliance America on Jan. 19.

Read more:
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/01/...-afraid-431566 (January 4, 2017)

"Cause I saddle up my horse
And I ride into the city
I make a lot of noise
'Cause the girls
They are so pretty
Riding up and down broadway
On my old stud leroy
And the girls say
Save a horse, ride a cowboy"

-- Big Kenny and John Rich

YouTube: Big & Rich (Save a horse)

BobTheCoward · 6th January 2017, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

Which has **** all to do with their intelligence, which was your claim.

No, you are wrong. Snobbery is important to the inflated sense of self-worth of the snob. It has no importance otherwise. But thank you for confirming that I was completely right about you.

It has everything to do with their intelligence. If you are smart, you take a moment to realize you are doing it wrong, and stop before you make that purchase.

Ziggurat · 6th January 2017, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward

It has everything to do with their intelligence. If you are smart, you take a moment to realize you are doing it wrong, and stop before you make that purchase.

Your criteria for right and wrong are arbitrary and irrelevant. Furthermore, even granting your premise that it's wrong to find out about artists this way (an assertion you have provided no justification for), it doesn't follow that it's therefore wrong to purchase the CD once you have in fact found out about an artist.

You aren't convincing anyone that you're better at consuming art, you're only convincing people you've got a pole shoved somewhere.

BobTheCoward · 6th January 2017, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

Your criteria for right and wrong are arbitrary and irrelevant. Furthermore, even granting your premise that it's wrong to find out about artists this way (an assertion you have provided no justification for), it doesn't follow that it's therefore wrong to purchase the CD once you have in fact found out about an artist.

You aren't convincing anyone that you're better at consuming art, you're only convincing people you've got a pole shoved somewhere.

It is wrong to purchase at that time because it is fruit from a poisoned tree.

I'm not better at consuming music. That is why I don't. When I became aware of how I was not able to do it right, I stopped childishly listening in 2008 until such a time I can do the form justice.

Foolmewunz · 6th January 2017, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows

"Cause I saddle up my horse
And I ride into the city
I make a lot of noise
'Cause the girls
They are so pretty
Riding up and down broadway
On my old stud leroy
And the girls say
Save a horse, ride a cowboy"

-- Big Kenny and John Rich

YouTube: Big and Rich (Save a horse)

Mega group? What've they got, like one hit a decade ago. (And not even a full-chart hit, but a Billboard Country Chart hit.)

NVM.... it's not the inauguration but a party being thrown by one of the PACs on the 19th.

Childlike Empress · 6th January 2017, 07:59 AM

Pity that the Red Army Choir isn't around anymore.

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Border Reiver · 6th January 2017, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

Pity that the Red Army Choir isn't around anymore.

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The Russian Army didn't maintain that? Pity.

The Don · 6th January 2017, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Border Reiver

The Russian Army didn't maintain that? Pity.

Did you miss the news ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38432800

Border Reiver · 6th January 2017, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Did you miss the news ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38432800

Yes, I did miss this.

My sympathies to the friends and families of the lost soldiers.

Ziggurat · 6th January 2017, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by BobTheCoward

It is wrong to purchase at that time because it is fruit from a poisoned tree.

Wow, now you're getting almost religious about this. Weird.

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I'm not better at consuming music. That is why I don't. When I became aware of how I was not able to do it right, I stopped childishly listening in 2008 until such a time I can do the form justice.

“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
C.S. Lewis

luchog · 6th January 2017, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Border Reiver

The Russian Army didn't maintain that? Pity.

They did up until a couple weeks ago: http://www.npr.org/2016/12/27/507142...red-army-choir

Childlike Empress · 6th January 2017, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Border Reiver

Yes, I did miss this.

My sympathies to the friends and families of the lost soldiers.

It sure was underreported, given the tragedy it is for the whole country. Maybe in the current climate as an act of "if you don't have something nice to say, say nothing" good will.

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2017, 10:11 AM

It was reported on the BBC.

I remember back in the days of my youth when there were more variety shows on the TV (Before the rise of 'reality' TV) The Red Army Choir used to make appearances quite a lot.

Segnosaur · 6th January 2017, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows

You couldn’t get a more appropriately named band to play at Trump’s inauguration – and they’re not afraid!

Country music mega act Big & Rich is not afraid of the backlash other acts have got for even considering performing at President-elect Donald Trump’s inauguration.
"Save a horse, ride a cowboy"

-- Big Kenny and John Rich

YouTube: Big & Rich (Save a horse)

Great... they can play all their hit songs at the inauguration.

Which I guess means they will just repeat the song "Save a Horse" over and over again.

I skimmed through that article... what stood out to me was that one of the performers was friends with Trump after his appearance on Celebrity Apprentice... But given the fact that that show is often stocked with C-list celebrities and has-beens, its not exactly a sign of their success if they appear on that show.

fuelair · 6th January 2017, 11:01 AM

Would be nice if they had to get a Big Cat show (Lions, Tigers, Cougars, etc.) and the act sprayed the show (audience and the Idiot-in-Chief)................. I suspect he's a Golden Shower kind of guy anyway!!!!!!!! Drumpfs are like that.....

Minoosh · 6th January 2017, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Marcus

I would advise anyone who has doubts about Jackie Evanchos' vocal talent to listen to one of her renditions, here is one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2YRCjBzZSg It's not modified, it's just a straight national anthem, but it's a good test for a singer.

Yes, some pipes. Plus she is an underage blonde of Eastern European descent. If she were in one of Donald's teen beauty pageants, he would be loitering backstage to catch a glimpse of her tits. Sorry, I know that sounds crude and vulgar. It sounds like something Trump would say.

I look at auditions a lot and hadn't realized I'd already seen hers. She is technically extremely accomplished. There's something remote about her. Preternaturally self-possessed. That's what I thought when I saw the opera aria clip on YouTube. She connects with the music, but not as much with the audience. She's a great pick for the inauguration. If anyone watches, remember she's the sort of teenager Donald would like to see naked, and would grab by the pudendum if he thought he could get away with it. Or maybe he'd just brag about it, without really doing it.

Minoosh · 6th January 2017, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

I doubt the hunt for big names is to do the anthem. To be more accurate, to "just do the anthem". It's the ball(s) later. He wants to have the impression that the glitterati is in his camp, particularly some early Clinton supporters. Why else approach Perry?

I did not even know Rick Perry could sing.

Would Ray Charles have done it? Johnny Cash? Freddie Mercury?

sts60 · 6th January 2017, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by fuelair

Would be nice if they had to get a Big Cat show (Lions, Tigers, Cougars, etc.) and the act sprayed the show (audience and the Idiot-in-Chief)................. I suspect he's a Golden Shower kind of guy anyway!!!!!!!! Drumpfs are like that.....

Come on. As much as I despise Trump and his gang, this is just pointless.

Regnad Kcin · 6th January 2017, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows

"Cause I saddle up my horse
And I ride into the city
I make a lot of noise
'Cause the girls
They are so pretty
Riding up and down broadway
On my old stud leroy
And the girls say
Save a horse, ride a cowboy"

-- Big Kenny and John Rich

YouTube: Big & Rich (Save a horse)

Who?

Marcus · 6th January 2017, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Minoosh

I look at auditions a lot and hadn't realized I'd already seen hers.

Her tits? Just kidding, yes she is an underage cutie. Kind of a religious type though, I don't think she would take kindly to The Donald sneaking a peek.

Matthew Best · 6th January 2017, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Marcus

I would advise anyone who has doubts about Jackie Evanchos' vocal talent to listen to one of her renditions, here is one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2YRCjBzZSg It's not modified, it's just a straight national anthem, but it's a good test for a singer.

You want to hear the National Anthem done well - there is really only one version to listen to:

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marplots · 6th January 2017, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Matthew Best

You want to hear the National Anthem done well - there is really only one version to listen to:

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My favorite:

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4th January 2017, 09:16 PM	#442
Norman Alexander Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 2,076	It seems no-one has determined who is attending the innauguration event yet. So let me make some educated guesses from 10,000kms away. 1) The KKK Kazoo Band will open, holding burning crosses while playing "Dixie" in front of a Confederate flag. 2) Some street mime, possibly blind, will act out the Second Amendment, accompanied by a hillbilly playing a duck caller. 3) Two Rockettes will perform "Just Jazz Hands" to a Ted Nugent number. 4) Horst Wessel and The Brown Shirt Boys will play some stirring ~~goose-stepping~~ dance music. 5) A genuine singer will perform the National Anthem properly...if they can be heard over the noise of dessert, coffee, and thousands of corporate lobbyists and other hangers-on trying to broker deals with guests. Yeah, go on! You do better!
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5th January 2017, 08:10 AM	#443
luchog Neo-Post-Retro-Revivalist Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Emerald City Posts: 13,729	Originally Posted by Minoosh I wonder if any other human being could do what he did with his guitar. Randy Hansen perhaps.
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5th January 2017, 08:17 AM	#444
calebprime Somewhat Elitist Parasite Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,858	Originally Posted by luchog Randy Hansen perhaps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2kaa2-NBkk Ooh, that's in the uncanny valley. Disturbing. I wish I'd never. Thanks, luchog.
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5th January 2017, 11:00 AM	#446
Regnad Kcin Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,392	Why not go with someone who could blow the roof off the place ?
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5th January 2017, 11:03 AM	#447
Cleon King of the Pod People Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 24,927	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin Why not go with someone who could blow the roof off the place ? Donald doesn't want to be out-Trumped.
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4th January 2017, 09:15 PM	#441
BobTheCoward Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,338	It doesn't help that by all accounts, Trump is a total Philistine. It's not even really possible to begrudgingly respect the guy if you believe art matters.

5th January 2017, 10:40 AM	#445
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 16,876	I hear Corey Feldman is available also!

5th January 2017, 11:41 AM	#448
applecorped Rotten to the Core Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 16,959	Darn that Talladega marching band for playing at Trump's inauguration. They are messing with the narrative.
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5th January 2017, 11:47 AM	#449
Mike! Official Ponylandistanian National Treasure. Respect it! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ponylandistan! Where the bacon grows on trees! Can it get any better than that? I submit it can not! Posts: 25,885	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin Why not go with someone who could blow the roof off the place ? There's an act that was well ahead of it's time.
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6th January 2017, 12:42 AM	#450
Slings and Arrows Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,130	Quote: Did word of Trump’s inauguration concert cause a Jackie Evancho sales surge? Donald Trump tweeted that 16-year-old Jackie Evancho’s "album sales have skyrocketed after announcing her inauguration performance." So is Trump’s Twitter boast correct? Did Evancho, who is 16, see a steep rise in sales since it was announced she’d be a performer at the Trump inauguration? He’s right. Evancho’s album sales nearly doubled in the first full week after she was announced as an inauguration performer compared to the previous week. She was also streamed much more often. We rule the claim True. Read more: http://www.politifact.com/pennsylvan...cause-jackie-/ (January 5, 2017) Good for her, I hope she gets another big spike in sales following her inauguration performance.

6th January 2017, 04:44 AM	#451
ChrisBFRPKY Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,588	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander It seems no-one has determined who is attending the innauguration event yet. So let me make some educated guesses from 10,000kms away. 1) The KKK Kazoo Band will open, holding burning crosses while playing "Dixie" in front of a Confederate flag. 2) Some street mime, possibly blind, will act out the Second Amendment, accompanied by a hillbilly playing a duck caller. 3) Two Rockettes will perform "Just Jazz Hands" to a Ted Nugent number. 4) Horst Wessel and The Brown Shirt Boys will play some stirring ~~goose-stepping~~ dance music. 5) A genuine singer will perform the National Anthem properly...if they can be heard over the noise of dessert, coffee, and thousands of corporate lobbyists and other hangers-on trying to broker deals with guests. Yeah, go on! You do better! 1) Hillary Clinton pole dances to "Don't Stop" by Fleetwood Mac, with an encore of "Nasty Girls" 2) The National Anthem is performed while CNN switches to a live view of Colin Kaepernick taking a knee. 3) Obama cries caught live by a close up from a Fox camera. 4) Hillary and Bill are seated between special guests Putin and Julian Assange, again with a live close up from a Fox camera. 5) KISS performs to close the show and Gene Simmons spits fire on the MSNBC and CNN cameras. Chris B.
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6th January 2017, 06:33 AM	#452
Armitage72 Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,592	Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows Good for her, I hope she gets another big spike in sales following her inauguration performance. It's always to a performer's benefit if something expands their audience, bringing them to the attention of people who may have never encountered them previously. Rapper LL Cool J experienced a significant increase in CD sales, particularly among white, middle-age women, when he began co-starring on NCIS: Los Angeles. As they say, any publicity is good publicity.

6th January 2017, 06:42 AM	#453
BobTheCoward Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,338	Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows Good for her, I hope she gets another big spike in sales following her inauguration performance. Bad for the intelligence of the people who bought the album. The fact that she is simply playing an event is hardly a good assessment of its artistic merit.

6th January 2017, 06:59 AM	#454
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 38,054	Originally Posted by BobTheCoward Bad for the intelligence of the people who bought the album. The fact that she is simply playing an event is hardly a good assessment of its artistic merit. That's a rather blinkered interpretation of that statement. It's entirely possible that this performance will expose her to people who have simply never heard her before, but who will like what they hear. So a spike in sales could be because of their assessment of its artistic merits, and not simply because she performed the event.
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6th January 2017, 07:02 AM	#455
BobTheCoward Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,338	Originally Posted by Ziggurat That's a rather blinkered interpretation of that statement. It's entirely possible that this performance will expose her to people who have simply never heard her before, but who will like what they hear. So a spike in sales could be because of their assessment of its artistic merits, and not simply because she performed the event. Read back what you wrote. That is the most embarrassing way to admit you became aware of an artist.

6th January 2017, 07:14 AM	#456
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 38,054	Originally Posted by BobTheCoward Read back what you wrote. That is the most embarrassing way to admit you became aware of an artist. What the hell are you even talking about? First, I've been aware of her for years. Second, why is it embarrassing to admit you became aware of an artist because they played some venue you were watching for other reasons? That sounds like hipster snobbery: if you didn't learn of an artist before widespread exposure, you're just a poser. And third, way to not address the point.
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6th January 2017, 07:20 AM	#457
BobTheCoward Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,338	Originally Posted by Ziggurat What the hell are you even talking about? First, I've been aware of her for years. Second, why is it embarrassing to admit you became aware of an artist because they played some venue you were watching for other reasons? That sounds like hipster snobbery: if you didn't learn of an artist before widespread exposure, you're just a poser. And third, way to not address the point. My reply to your point is that people are learning about the artist the wrong way. Yes it is snobbery. Snobbery in art is important. There are right ways and wrong ways to consume art.

6th January 2017, 07:25 AM	#458
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 38,054	Originally Posted by BobTheCoward My reply to your point is that people are learning about the artist the wrong way. Which has **** all to do with their intelligence, which was your claim. Quote: Yes it is snobbery. Snobbery in art is important. There are right ways and wrong ways to consume art. No, you are wrong. Snobbery is important to the inflated sense of self-worth of the snob. It has no importance otherwise. But thank you for confirming that I was completely right about you.
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6th January 2017, 07:26 AM	#459
Slings and Arrows Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,130	Quote: You couldn’t get a more appropriately named band to play at Trump’s inauguration – and they’re not afraid! Country music mega act Big & Rich is not afraid of the backlash other acts have got for even considering performing at President-elect Donald Trump’s inauguration. Unlike many celebrities who cowered in fear and declined to be involved with Trump’s inauguration, the band said it is “thrilled” to be performing at the gala hosted by the Republican Party of New York and Great Alliance America on Jan. 19. Read more: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/01/...-afraid-431566 (January 4, 2017) "Cause I saddle up my horse And I ride into the city I make a lot of noise 'Cause the girls They are so pretty Riding up and down broadway On my old stud leroy And the girls say Save a horse, ride a cowboy" -- Big Kenny and John Rich YouTube: Big & Rich (Save a horse)
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6th January 2017, 07:38 AM	#460
BobTheCoward Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,338	Originally Posted by Ziggurat Which has **** all to do with their intelligence, which was your claim. No, you are wrong. Snobbery is important to the inflated sense of self-worth of the snob. It has no importance otherwise. But thank you for confirming that I was completely right about you. It has everything to do with their intelligence. If you are smart, you take a moment to realize you are doing it wrong, and stop before you make that purchase.

6th January 2017, 07:44 AM	#461
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 38,054	Originally Posted by BobTheCoward It has everything to do with their intelligence. If you are smart, you take a moment to realize you are doing it wrong, and stop before you make that purchase. Your criteria for right and wrong are arbitrary and irrelevant. Furthermore, even granting your premise that it's wrong to find out about artists this way (an assertion you have provided no justification for), it doesn't follow that it's therefore wrong to purchase the CD once you have in fact found out about an artist. You aren't convincing anyone that you're better at consuming art, you're only convincing people you've got a pole shoved somewhere.
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6th January 2017, 07:46 AM	#462
BobTheCoward Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,338	Originally Posted by Ziggurat Your criteria for right and wrong are arbitrary and irrelevant. Furthermore, even granting your premise that it's wrong to find out about artists this way (an assertion you have provided no justification for), it doesn't follow that it's therefore wrong to purchase the CD once you have in fact found out about an artist. You aren't convincing anyone that you're better at consuming art, you're only convincing people you've got a pole shoved somewhere. It is wrong to purchase at that time because it is fruit from a poisoned tree. I'm not better at consuming music. That is why I don't. When I became aware of how I was not able to do it right, I stopped childishly listening in 2008 until such a time I can do the form justice.

6th January 2017, 07:49 AM	#463
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 36,017	Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows "Cause I saddle up my horse And I ride into the city I make a lot of noise 'Cause the girls They are so pretty Riding up and down broadway On my old stud leroy And the girls say Save a horse, ride a cowboy" -- Big Kenny and John Rich YouTube: Big and Rich (Save a horse) Mega group? What've they got, like one hit a decade ago. (And not even a full-chart hit, but a Billboard Country Chart hit.) NVM.... it's not the inauguration but a party being thrown by one of the PACs on the 19th.
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6th January 2017, 09:04 AM	#466
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cymru Posts: 21,982	Originally Posted by Border Reiver The Russian Army didn't maintain that? Pity. Did you miss the news ? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38432800

6th January 2017, 09:17 AM	#467
Border Reiver Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,968	Originally Posted by The Don Did you miss the news ? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38432800 Yes, I did miss this. My sympathies to the friends and families of the lost soldiers.
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6th January 2017, 09:18 AM	#468
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 38,054	Originally Posted by BobTheCoward It is wrong to purchase at that time because it is fruit from a poisoned tree. Wow, now you're getting almost religious about this. Weird. Quote: I'm not better at consuming music. That is why I don't. When I became aware of how I was not able to do it right, I stopped childishly listening in 2008 until such a time I can do the form justice. “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” C.S. Lewis
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6th January 2017, 09:21 AM	#469
luchog Neo-Post-Retro-Revivalist Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Emerald City Posts: 13,729	Originally Posted by Border Reiver The Russian Army didn't maintain that? Pity. They did up until a couple weeks ago: http://www.npr.org/2016/12/27/507142...red-army-choir
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6th January 2017, 09:27 AM	#470
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 14,339	Originally Posted by Border Reiver Yes, I did miss this. My sympathies to the friends and families of the lost soldiers. It sure was underreported, given the tragedy it is for the whole country. Maybe in the current climate as an act of "if you don't have something nice to say, say nothing" good will.
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6th January 2017, 10:11 AM	#471
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 12,438	It was reported on the BBC. I remember back in the days of my youth when there were more variety shows on the TV (Before the rise of 'reality' TV) The Red Army Choir used to make appearances quite a lot.

6th January 2017, 10:29 AM	#472
Segnosaur Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,181	Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows You couldn’t get a more appropriately named band to play at Trump’s inauguration – and they’re not afraid! Country music mega act Big & Rich is not afraid of the backlash other acts have got for even considering performing at President-elect Donald Trump’s inauguration. "Save a horse, ride a cowboy" -- Big Kenny and John Rich YouTube: Big & Rich (Save a horse) Great... they can play all their hit songs at the inauguration. Which I guess means they will just repeat the song "Save a Horse" over and over again. I skimmed through that article... what stood out to me was that one of the performers was friends with Trump after his appearance on Celebrity Apprentice... But given the fact that that show is often stocked with C-list celebrities and has-beens, its not exactly a sign of their success if they appear on that show.
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6th January 2017, 11:01 AM	#473
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 54,584	Would be nice if they had to get a Big Cat show (Lions, Tigers, Cougars, etc.) and the act sprayed the show (audience and the Idiot-in-Chief)................. I suspect he's a Golden Shower kind of guy anyway!!!!!!!! Drumpfs are like that.....
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6th January 2017, 11:48 AM	#474
Minoosh Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 6,107	Originally Posted by Marcus I would advise anyone who has doubts about Jackie Evanchos' vocal talent to listen to one of her renditions, here is one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2YRCjBzZSg It's not modified, it's just a straight national anthem, but it's a good test for a singer. Yes, some pipes. Plus she is an underage blonde of Eastern European descent. If she were in one of Donald's teen beauty pageants, he would be loitering backstage to catch a glimpse of her tits. Sorry, I know that sounds crude and vulgar. It sounds like something Trump would say. I look at auditions a lot and hadn't realized I'd already seen hers. She is technically extremely accomplished. There's something remote about her. Preternaturally self-possessed. That's what I thought when I saw the opera aria clip on YouTube. She connects with the music, but not as much with the audience. She's a great pick for the inauguration. If anyone watches, remember she's the sort of teenager Donald would like to see naked, and would grab by the pudendum if he thought he could get away with it. Or maybe he'd just brag about it, without really doing it.
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6th January 2017, 12:00 PM	#475
Minoosh Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 6,107	Originally Posted by Foolmewunz I doubt the hunt for big names is to do the anthem. To be more accurate, to "just do the anthem". It's the ball(s) later. He wants to have the impression that the glitterati is in his camp, particularly some early Clinton supporters. Why else approach Perry? I did not even know Rick Perry could sing. Would Ray Charles have done it? Johnny Cash? Freddie Mercury?
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6th January 2017, 12:09 PM	#476
sts60 Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,589	Originally Posted by fuelair Would be nice if they had to get a Big Cat show (Lions, Tigers, Cougars, etc.) and the act sprayed the show (audience and the Idiot-in-Chief)................. I suspect he's a Golden Shower kind of guy anyway!!!!!!!! Drumpfs are like that..... Come on. As much as I despise Trump and his gang, this is just pointless.
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6th January 2017, 12:14 PM	#477
Regnad Kcin Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,392	Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows "Cause I saddle up my horse And I ride into the city I make a lot of noise 'Cause the girls They are so pretty Riding up and down broadway On my old stud leroy And the girls say Save a horse, ride a cowboy" -- Big Kenny and John Rich YouTube: Big & Rich (Save a horse) Who?
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