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I'm saying (most all of) the "LOLs" are aimed at some hypothetical Republican outrage that doesn't exist, or at least hasn't shown itself yet.
Like I said this whole thing has been "Okay so no Republicans worth talking about are actually bothered by this, but wouldn't it be funny if they were?" and that just seems... pointless and off and sort of baity to me, like people are poking the Republicans with a stick until they get upset about this. |
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#282 |
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I think people are confusing the Republicans with John Lithgow's character in Footloose.
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I'm uncertain what is actually worth discussing here. Granted, I'm still discussing it but I think that says more about me than the subject in question.
Seriously though, what is the larger narrative? Other than "haters gonna hate haters who gonna hate........." Who's loling at who? This "controversy" seems to be a bunch of people loling at replickers outraged over AOC dancing. When it really just looks like one random dude on the internet who appears to care about it at all. Like many supposed controversies these days, I find myself more confused and befuddled about why anyone cares than loling or frothing at the mouth. To be fair, its often an understandable confusion, depending on the Republican. The real problem is that people seem to confuse Mitt Romney with Steve King, who is a caricature of John Lithgow's character from Footloose. |
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I can even foresee it becoming so common that a lack of such pictures & videos will be seen as a bit odd, as if meaning they're trying to hide something, and some will feel as if they need to put something out there themselves just to prove they weren't a recluse/loser.
The kinds of videos you two are talking about will also get more common and more apathy-inducing, for the same reasons as the above. The easier it is to be on video dancing, the easier it is to be on video doing other things too. And men in particular, at least if they have political aspirations, will have extra incentive to record themselves even if they wouldn't want to otherwise, not only to establish that they weren't losers as mentioned above, but also to establish that sex was mutual, in case of subsequent accusations. |
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There is no story being told on top of reality.
The larger narrative being discussed is the one about the Right’s obsession and hypocrisy in regard to Ocasio-Cortez. This is occurring very much in reality. Watch the video linked earlier in this thread in which she is booed in Congress. Read the article linked in the post immediately after yours in which a major conservative media outlet breaks the earth-shattering story that she went by “Sandy” in high school. Or just take a look at this article. Note it was published months before she even took office. And then take a look at the criticisms being leveled at her and remember that they’re coming from people who defend Donald Trump. There’s actually some nice examples in this very thread. The dancing video issue specifically isn’t much to talk about, but the larger issue of which it is part definitely is. |
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So please explain to me what part of this "narrative" one random anonymous Twitter user is?
"Republicans have launched political attacks on her and this one random, anonymous Twitter user that we have zero idea about his social or political ideology posts an old video of her dancing with a snarky comment about it! IT'S ALL LINKED!" This "Republicans are out to get her, so everything said negative about her in any context is about that" is a stretch. |
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At the risk of being inflammatory, I'm reminded of the blanking while black threads. Racism is definitely a thing with impact in America but most of the blanking while black threads aren't particularly compelling examples of it. The rights obsession with AOC(something I'm not quite ready to concede) may be a real thing, this is a particularly uncompelling example of it. It seems to more of an example of "the lefts" obsession with "the rights" obsession.
Aside from that, it totally makes sense for the right wing media to flog stories about AOC, she's good looking so the click bait is easy and she's pretty far on the left of the Dems, it makes it easy to paint all dems as far to the left. Same is true of Warren, she's just not as good looking and she's been around longer. AOC is proof(in their eyes) of the radical shift to the left the Dems are taking. |
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So you think the goal of getting the US off fossil fuels is a dumb idea? What? Are you heavily invested in fossil fuel stocks?
Abolishing ICE is not " just typical dumb lefty stuff". The vast majority (75%) of Democrats do not support abolishing ICE. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...to-abolish-ice |
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The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king.
Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. You can't expect to exercise supreme executive power just because a watery tart threw a sword at you. Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away. |
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On 22 JUL 2016, Candidate Donald Trump in his acceptance speech: "There can be no prosperity without law and order." On 05 FEB 2019, President Donald Trump said in his Sate of the Union Address: "If there is going to be peace and legislation, there cannot be war and investigation." On 15 FEB 2019 'BobTheCoward' said: "I constantly assert I am a fool." A man's best friend is his dogma. |
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Yes, with the added modifier.
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This bullcrap "Oh you said something about X but didn't say anything about Y" whataboutism version of Hypocrisy is really killing political discourse at a time we really need to not be killing political discourse.
Yes politics make people give slack to members of their own tribe and give no slack to members of the other tribe. Everybody knows that. Pointing it out again and again every time it happens accomplishes absolutely nothing. |
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The clearest explanation so far for the right-wing view:
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And maybe ACO really isn't so crazy (also from above):
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On 22 JUL 2016, Candidate Donald Trump in his acceptance speech: "There can be no prosperity without law and order." On 05 FEB 2019, President Donald Trump said in his Sate of the Union Address: "If there is going to be peace and legislation, there cannot be war and investigation." On 15 FEB 2019 'BobTheCoward' said: "I constantly assert I am a fool." A man's best friend is his dogma. |
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To be fair though it is easy to think of the Senate as a boy's club until recently. The US Senate went for 130 years with no women at all. It took until 1932 for Hattie Caraway to become the first elected woman Senator (I am ignoring Rebecca Felton, who served only one day in 1922). Even that was not an un-reversible trend until even more recently: the presence of a woman in the Senate only became a constant after 1978, and the numbers were very low (one or a few) up until very recently. Compare those numbers versus the percent women in the overall population (slightly over 50%).
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Thermal can probably be forgiven. There really has been few women senators or people of color in the US Senate even though the 100 percent figure is unlikely.
The last time there was no women in the Senate was 1976 and before that the vast majority of women who served out the terms of spouses who were Senators. More placeholders than anything. That there are today 25 women senators is staggering. Here are two links about women and ethnic diversity in the US Senate. https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory...n_senators.htm https://www.senate.gov/senators/Ethn...ntheSenate.htm Ninja'd by Giordano |
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Qanon. WWG1WGA. Which means it's being disseminated throughout Trump's base. I agree that "higher level" conservatives probably aren't in the loop currently, but that doesn't mean a more palatable version will bubble up from the ether in the future and be a mainstream talking point.
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Her cool nickname is AOC not ACO. Maybe she's not crazy, but Waldman is if he thinks Republicans believe wealth is synonymous with virtue.
Personally, I would be happy to go along with higher taxes on the wealthy. Republicans have boxed themselves in on this issue. Because they believe that tax increases are wrong (not morally, but economically), they have protected lots of wealthy people who turn around and vote their socially liberal consciences. If the liberal rich started having to actually pay higher taxes as a result of voting Democratic, they might think twice about it. As for AOC, she's a twit who clearly doesn't understand how to get things done (or basic economics). That said, I certainly didn't see anything shocking in the video. |
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