Debunking911.com is down

Airfix · 13th September 2016, 05:15 AM

All the site is down, only Apache hosting pages are visible.

MileHighMadness · 13th September 2016, 05:31 AM

I blame Gage...

Airfix · 13th September 2016, 05:44 AM

starting to wonder if it's my own pc that's messed up here, I put apache on it and joomla, now I'm seeing joomla hosting pages...

Odd.

Anyone else having problems with that site ?

Childlike Empress · 13th September 2016, 06:30 AM

Putin!

pgimeno · 13th September 2016, 06:35 AM

It must have been hacked...

Seriously though, for some reason the DNS is resolving to 127.0.0.1 which is localhost. It seems like a misconfiguration because the domain is renewed until February 2017.

Adding this line to my /etc/hosts lets me access the site:

69.89.22.141 www.debunking911.com

(in Windows that file is called /windows/system/drivers/etc/hosts rather than /etc/hosts)

Airfix · 13th September 2016, 06:37 AM

That's not working for me either.

rjh01 · 13th September 2016, 10:25 PM

I get a blank page.

Brainster · 15th September 2016, 04:39 PM

Yes, but did it come down at freefall speed?

Mark F · 15th September 2016, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Yes, but did it come down at freefall speed?

Oh snap.

Shame on the rest of us for not going there first

DGM · 15th September 2016, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Yes, but did it come down at freefall speed?

I'm almost afraid to ask. How fast is that, anyways?

LSSBB · 15th September 2016, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Yes, but did it come down at freefall speed?

We all know it's acceleration, and Web sites tend to follow Moore's Law in that respect I believe.

Wolrab · 15th September 2016, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by DGM

I'm almost afraid to ask. How fast is that, anyways?

It's the amount of time it takes to say clunkety, clunkety, clunkety... 110 times IIRC.

Dog Town · 15th September 2016, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Wolrab

It's the amount of time it takes to say clunkety, clunkety, clunkety... 110 times IIRC.

Oh how I miss those days!

mopc · 15th September 2016, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Yes, but did it come down at freefall speed?

almost makes it worthwhile

thedopefishlives · 16th September 2016, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by Dog Town

Oh how I miss those days!

MSPaintFire was my favorite. That was the first debunking I participated in.

Brainster · 17th September 2016, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Wolrab

It's the amount of time it takes to say clunkety, clunkety, clunkety... 110 times IIRC.

Wins the thread!

Childlike Empress · 17th September 2016, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by DGM

I'm almost afraid to ask. How fast is that, anyways?

You shouldn't need to ask if you're older than like twälf, but hey, they say there aren't stupid questions.

rjh01 · 17th September 2016, 02:20 PM

Still down. Must be bad.

LSSBB · 17th September 2016, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

You shouldn't need to ask if you're older than like twälf, but hey, they say there aren't stupid questions.

http://i.imgur.com/QTVB5aQ.png

Wrong. Freefall is an acceleration, not a velocity.

Childlike Empress · 17th September 2016, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by LSSBB

Wrong. Freefall is an acceleration, not a velocity.

Freefall is a phenomenon caused by gravity. Your acceleration here is g. Do the math. v is the speed with which the mess hits the ground. If you want the time it takes, go look up how to solve for t. h is the height of your horse.

One of the stoopitest pantomime debunking distractions ever.

Childlike Empress · 17th September 2016, 03:43 PM

To drive this home to even the twälf years old among the readers: h is the height of the towers in the argument about how they came down. As h is known, there never has been anything wrong with talking about "free fall speed". You just expect people to be able to solve an equation taught to twälf years old, or better you don't insult people's intelligence by pretending that they don't know that g is a constant (depending on where you are) if you are intending to engage in civilized debate.

That is the quality of 9/11 "debunking", good for a free fall joke in the clubhouse 15 years later. Congratulations.

LSSBB · 17th September 2016, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

Freefall is a phenomenon caused by gravity. Your acceleration here is g. Do the math. v is the speed with which the mess hits the ground. If you want the time it takes, go look up how to solve for t. h is the height of your horse.

One of the stoopitest pantomime debunking distractions ever.

No, you're wrong. Freefall means freely falling, i.e. falling so you are weightless, which means at the acceleration of gravity. 9.81 m/s².

Feel free to be condescending and keep digging a hole, though. It's pretty entertaining for me.

Childlike Empress · 17th September 2016, 04:58 PM

If anyone wants to follow this "argument" developing (there's a twitter poll!), I've copied it over to the appropriate thread dealing with the Church of Free Fall. Good luck debunking911.com whatever it was/is/will be.

LSSBB · 17th September 2016, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

If anyone wants to follow this "argument" developing (there's a twitter poll!), I've copied it over to the appropriate thread dealing with the Church of Free Fall. Good luck debunking911.com whatever it was/is/will be.

Better yet, get to my freefall thread:

Originally Posted by LSSBB

Funny, because Freefall is a Truther religious creed.

ETA: Als0 Als0 funny, because in this forum I had a thread showing how freefall is not evidence for controlled demolition, and no Truther could come up with a valid counter to that claim. Would you be the first, CE, or just keep posting jokes to yourself?

Childlike Empress · 17th September 2016, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by LSSBB

Better yet, get to my freefall thread:

That's not "your thread", that's your freefall argument post from days ago in "my thread" (which I ignored at the time), making nonsensical assertions shown for what they are by what is witnessed here - you running in circles sped up by a basic little equation your mentioned (by you) teachers apparently (

) left you unaware of.

LSSBB · 17th September 2016, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

That's not "your thread", that's your freefall argument post from days ago in "my thread" (which I ignored at the time), making nonsensical assertions shown for what they are by what is witnessed here - you running in circles sped up by a basic little equation your mentioned (by you) teachers apparently (

) left you unaware of.

There's a link in that post. I would put in a hyperlink to an article on hyperlinks to explain that concept, if you'd like. It's a basic concept for the hypertext transfer protocol.

Childlike Empress · 17th September 2016, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by LSSBB

There's a link in that post. I would put in a hyperlink to an article on hyperlinks to explain that concept, if you'd like. It's a basic concept for the hypertext transfer protocol.

beachnut · 17th September 2016, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

You shouldn't need to ask if you're older than like twälf, but hey, they say there aren't stupid questions.

http://i.imgur.com/QTVB5aQ.png

Problems with physics, and acceleration; no wonder you fell for NoC fantasy.

The only way to save this, claim it was humor, like the clowns, CIT.

Playing Games · 18th September 2016, 04:30 PM

Mike Williams was contacted (not by me) about the site being down. He said he didn't know, but provided an alternative link to view it:

http://web.archive.org/web/201608210...unking911.com/

pgimeno · 19th September 2016, 05:01 AM

Isn't Mike Williams (MikeW) the owner of 911myths.com ? I don't know who runs debunking911.com but I'm pretty sure it's a different person.

Airfix · 20th September 2016, 06:52 AM

Site is still down, anyone able to get in touch with it's owner ?

pgimeno · 20th September 2016, 08:30 AM

Does anyone know who the owner is, in the first place?

I still can access it with the above modification to my /etc/hosts, which means that the hosting still runs.

rjh01 · 20th September 2016, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Airfix

Site is still down, anyone able to get in touch with it's owner ?

If the owners do not know it is down then there is a serious problem. They should be moderating the site to make sure it is operating within normal parameters.

pgimeno · 19th January 2017, 10:02 AM

Not sure when it was fixed, but it seems to be up and running again.

jaydeehess · 19th January 2017, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

Freefall is a phenomenon caused by gravity. Your acceleration here is g. Do the math. v is the speed with which the mess hits the ground.

Which is NOT what truthers ever refer to. Instead it is the rate of collapse that is being referred to and THAT is an acceleration.

Quote:

One of the stoopitest pantomime debunking distractions ever.

If you wish to argue a technical point then it would behoove you to get the simplest of technical details correct so as not to demonstrate illiteracy in the topic you are trying to discuss.

13th September 2016, 05:15 AM	#1
Airfix Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 380	Debunking911.com is down All the site is down, only Apache hosting pages are visible.
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13th September 2016, 05:31 AM	#2
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13th September 2016, 05:44 AM	#3
Airfix Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 380	starting to wonder if it's my own pc that's messed up here, I put apache on it and joomla, now I'm seeing joomla hosting pages... Odd. Anyone else having problems with that site ?
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13th September 2016, 06:35 AM	#5
pgimeno Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 3,322	It must have been hacked... Seriously though, for some reason the DNS is resolving to 127.0.0.1 which is localhost. It seems like a misconfiguration because the domain is renewed until February 2017. Adding this line to my /etc/hosts lets me access the site: 69.89.22.141 www.debunking911.com (in Windows that file is called /windows/system/drivers/etc/hosts rather than /etc/hosts)
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13th September 2016, 06:37 AM	#6
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13th September 2016, 06:30 AM	#4
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 15,808	Putin!

13th September 2016, 10:25 PM	#7
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15th September 2016, 04:39 PM	#8
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 15,288	Yes, but did it come down at freefall speed?
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15th September 2016, 04:46 PM	#9
Mark F Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,422	Originally Posted by Brainster Yes, but did it come down at freefall speed? Oh snap. Shame on the rest of us for not going there first
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15th September 2016, 04:59 PM	#10
DGM Skeptic not Atheist Join Date: May 2007 Location: West of Northshore MA Posts: 24,583	Originally Posted by Brainster Yes, but did it come down at freefall speed? I'm almost afraid to ask. How fast is that, anyways?
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15th September 2016, 05:14 PM	#11
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelors Grove Cemetery Posts: 17,016	Originally Posted by Brainster Yes, but did it come down at freefall speed? We all know it's acceleration, and Web sites tend to follow Moore's Law in that respect I believe.
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15th September 2016, 06:57 PM	#12
Wolrab Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,256	Originally Posted by DGM I'm almost afraid to ask. How fast is that, anyways? It's the amount of time it takes to say clunkety, clunkety, clunkety... 110 times IIRC.
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15th September 2016, 09:36 PM	#13
Dog Town Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6,862	Originally Posted by Wolrab It's the amount of time it takes to say clunkety, clunkety, clunkety... 110 times IIRC. Oh how I miss those days!
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15th September 2016, 10:40 PM	#14
mopc Scholar Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 106	Originally Posted by Brainster Yes, but did it come down at freefall speed? almost makes it worthwhile
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16th September 2016, 06:00 AM	#15
thedopefishlives Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,696	Originally Posted by Dog Town Oh how I miss those days! MSPaintFire was my favorite. That was the first debunking I participated in.
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17th September 2016, 01:31 PM	#16
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 15,288	Originally Posted by Wolrab It's the amount of time it takes to say clunkety, clunkety, clunkety... 110 times IIRC. Wins the thread!
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17th September 2016, 01:51 PM	#17
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 15,808	Originally Posted by DGM I'm almost afraid to ask. How fast is that, anyways? You shouldn't need to ask if you're older than like twälf, but hey, they say there aren't stupid questions.
	Last edited by Childlike Empress; 17th September 2016 at 02:16 PM. Reason: making it even easier

17th September 2016, 02:20 PM	#18
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Flying around in the sky Posts: 23,683	Still down. Must be bad.
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17th September 2016, 03:17 PM	#19
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelors Grove Cemetery Posts: 17,016	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress You shouldn't need to ask if you're older than like twälf, but hey, they say there aren't stupid questions. http://i.imgur.com/QTVB5aQ.png Wrong. Freefall is an acceleration, not a velocity.
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17th September 2016, 03:27 PM	#20
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 15,808	Originally Posted by LSSBB Wrong. Freefall is an acceleration, not a velocity. Freefall is a phenomenon caused by gravity. Your acceleration here is g. Do the math. v is the speed with which the mess hits the ground. If you want the time it takes, go look up how to solve for t. h is the height of your horse. One of the stoopitest pantomime debunking distractions ever.
	Last edited by Childlike Empress; 17th September 2016 at 03:28 PM.

17th September 2016, 03:43 PM	#21
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 15,808	To drive this home to even the twälf years old among the readers: h is the height of the towers in the argument about how they came down. As h is known, there never has been anything wrong with talking about "free fall speed". You just expect people to be able to solve an equation taught to twälf years old, or better you don't insult people's intelligence by pretending that they don't know that g is a constant (depending on where you are) if you are intending to engage in civilized debate. That is the quality of 9/11 "debunking", good for a free fall joke in the clubhouse 15 years later. Congratulations.
	Last edited by Childlike Empress; 17th September 2016 at 03:45 PM.

17th September 2016, 04:43 PM	#22
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelors Grove Cemetery Posts: 17,016	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress Freefall is a phenomenon caused by gravity. Your acceleration here is g. Do the math. v is the speed with which the mess hits the ground. If you want the time it takes, go look up how to solve for t. h is the height of your horse. One of the stoopitest pantomime debunking distractions ever. No, you're wrong. Freefall means freely falling, i.e. falling so you are weightless, which means at the acceleration of gravity. 9.81 m/s². Feel free to be condescending and keep digging a hole, though. It's pretty entertaining for me.
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17th September 2016, 04:58 PM	#23
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 15,808	If anyone wants to follow this "argument" developing (there's a twitter poll!), I've copied it over to the appropriate thread dealing with the Church of Free Fall. Good luck debunking911.com whatever it was/is/will be.
	Last edited by Childlike Empress; 17th September 2016 at 04:59 PM.

17th September 2016, 05:07 PM	#24
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelors Grove Cemetery Posts: 17,016	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress If anyone wants to follow this "argument" developing (there's a twitter poll!), I've copied it over to the appropriate thread dealing with the Church of Free Fall. Good luck debunking911.com whatever it was/is/will be. Better yet, get to my freefall thread: Originally Posted by LSSBB Funny, because Freefall is a Truther religious creed. ETA: Als0 Als0 funny, because in this forum I had a thread showing how freefall is not evidence for controlled demolition, and no Truther could come up with a valid counter to that claim. Would you be the first, CE, or just keep posting jokes to yourself?
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17th September 2016, 05:21 PM	#25
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 15,808	Originally Posted by LSSBB Better yet, get to my freefall thread: That's not "your thread", that's your freefall argument post from days ago in "my thread" (which I ignored at the time), making nonsensical assertions shown for what they are by what is witnessed here - you running in circles sped up by a basic little equation your mentioned (by you) teachers apparently () left you unaware of.

17th September 2016, 05:41 PM	#26
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelors Grove Cemetery Posts: 17,016	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress That's not "your thread", that's your freefall argument post from days ago in "my thread" (which I ignored at the time), making nonsensical assertions shown for what they are by what is witnessed here - you running in circles sped up by a basic little equation your mentioned (by you) teachers apparently () left you unaware of. There's a link in that post. I would put in a hyperlink to an article on hyperlinks to explain that concept, if you'd like. It's a basic concept for the hypertext transfer protocol.
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17th September 2016, 05:44 PM	#27
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 15,808	Originally Posted by LSSBB There's a link in that post. I would put in a hyperlink to an article on hyperlinks to explain that concept, if you'd like. It's a basic concept for the hypertext transfer protocol.

17th September 2016, 05:58 PM	#28
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 24,923	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress You shouldn't need to ask if you're older than like twälf, but hey, they say there aren't stupid questions. http://i.imgur.com/QTVB5aQ.png Problems with physics, and acceleration; no wonder you fell for NoC fantasy. The only way to save this, claim it was humor, like the clowns, CIT.
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18th September 2016, 04:30 PM	#29
Playing Games Thinker Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 219	Mike Williams was contacted (not by me) about the site being down. He said he didn't know, but provided an alternative link to view it: http://web.archive.org/web/201608210...unking911.com/
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19th September 2016, 05:01 AM	#30
pgimeno Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 3,322	Isn't Mike Williams (MikeW) the owner of 911myths.com ? I don't know who runs debunking911.com but I'm pretty sure it's a different person.
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20th September 2016, 06:52 AM	#31
Airfix Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 380	Site is still down, anyone able to get in touch with it's owner ?
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20th September 2016, 08:30 AM	#32
pgimeno Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 3,322	Does anyone know who the owner is, in the first place? I still can access it with the above modification to my /etc/hosts, which means that the hosting still runs.
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20th September 2016, 04:23 PM	#33
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Flying around in the sky Posts: 23,683	Originally Posted by Airfix Site is still down, anyone able to get in touch with it's owner ? If the owners do not know it is down then there is a serious problem. They should be moderating the site to make sure it is operating within normal parameters.
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19th January 2017, 10:02 AM	#34
pgimeno Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 3,322	Not sure when it was fixed, but it seems to be up and running again.
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19th January 2017, 10:53 AM	#35
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 40 miles north of the border Posts: 20,821	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress Freefall is a phenomenon caused by gravity. Your acceleration here is g. Do the math. v is the speed with which the mess hits the ground. Which is NOT what truthers ever refer to. Instead it is the rate of collapse that is being referred to and THAT is an acceleration. Quote: One of the stoopitest pantomime debunking distractions ever. If you wish to argue a technical point then it would behoove you to get the simplest of technical details correct so as not to demonstrate illiteracy in the topic you are trying to discuss.
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