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Old 20th March 2020, 04:12 PM   #1
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RIP Democracy in Israel.

Bibi has used the Corona Virus to basically disband the Knesset and seize power.
We now have a Jewish Hitler.
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Old 20th March 2020, 05:35 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Bibi has used the Corona Virus to basically disband the Knesset and seize power.
We now have a Jewish Hitler.
"Hitler" may be a bit much, but it does seem that Israeli democracy is in serious danger ...
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Old 20th March 2020, 05:54 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Bibi has used the Corona Virus to basically disband the Knesset and seize power.
We now have a Jewish Hitler.
No, we do not have a "Jewish Hitler". We do not have anything remotely resembling a Jewish Hitler in Israel.
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Old 20th March 2020, 06:39 PM   #4
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Old 20th March 2020, 06:43 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by trustbutverify View Post
No, we do not have a "Jewish Hitler". We do not have anything remotely resembling a Jewish Hitler in Israel.
More like a Jewish Franco.
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Old 20th March 2020, 07:00 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by CORed View Post
More like a Jewish Franco.
More like a Jewish Berlusconi. Only about 50 IQ points higher.
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Old 20th March 2020, 07:14 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Bibi has used the Corona Virus to basically disband the Knesset and seize power.
We now have a Jewish Hitler.
Jewish Hitler?

Way to kill any serious discussion of the situation in Israel.
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Old 20th March 2020, 07:44 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Robin View Post
Jewish Hitler?

Way to kill any serious discussion of the situation in Israel.
Godwinned on the second line of the OP!
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Old 21st March 2020, 11:37 AM   #9
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I messed up with the Hitler statement.
I should have compared him with Franco or a garden variety Banana Republic Dictator.
But that he is using the virus as an excuse to grab total power Is undinaible.
Now the opposition leader is announcing the Knesset will meet on Monday. Intersting times.
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Old 21st March 2020, 12:28 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I messed up with the Hitler statement.
I should have compared him with Franco or a garden variety Banana Republic Dictator.
But that he is using the virus as an excuse to grab total power Is undinaible.
Nice that you've backed off some of the rhetoric. Could you cite some articles to support that this

Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Now the opposition leader is announcing the Knesset will meet on Monday. Intersting times.
According to the link carlvs provided, this is when it was already going to meet anyway. What supports the "disbanding" claim in your OP? What actually happened looks a like a week delay of a vote Yuli Edelstein expects to lose*. Bad, but not a disbanding.

ETA: * "lose" in the case could mean he is removed as speaker.

Second ETA: Clarify what you mean by "disband". To a US/English speaking audience it's likely to conjure up images of Palpatine dissolving the Senate. In Israel it can just mean a new round of elections are called for.

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Old 21st March 2020, 12:47 PM   #11
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Sometimes I wonder if posts like the OP are more uncivil than any of the direct insults.
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Old 21st March 2020, 12:54 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Sometimes I wonder if posts like the OP are more uncivil than any of the direct insults.

I don't have to wonder for myself. I find them much more uncivil than direct insults.
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Old 21st March 2020, 03:21 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I messed up with the Hitler statement.
I should have compared him with Franco or a garden variety Banana Republic Dictator.
But that he is using the virus as an excuse to grab total power Is undinaible.
Now the opposition leader is announcing the Knesset will meet on Monday. Intersting times.
Jewish Erdogan?
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Old 21st March 2020, 04:30 PM   #14
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There are people in the US looking fondly on how strong man in China is handling this, and I don't mean Trump.

Just keep your eyes open. Historical democracies fall when they issue the leader emergency powers he doesn't give up.

"TRUMP SHOULD CURFEW THE ENTIRE NATION!", shouteth...left leaders???? wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 21st March 2020, 08:21 PM   #15
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Nah, don't worry about another emergency power.
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Sorry, a bit late to the party here.

As for the op, no.
Netanyahu isn't seeking absolute power, in fact he did stop some (not all) attempts to to allow government to run too wild.

The left and right leaders are almost done signing a joint government. Things are looking at a better direction, in thus manner at least

Also the whole comparison of Bibi to Franco let alone Hitler is absurd. Bibi himself was the protector of the supreme court for years. Seriously don't jump into dumb conclusions based on clickbait articles.

He doesn't care about absolute power.

What he cares about is just his saving his own behind from jail and yes he will do almost anything to do it. It's not by chance that he shut down courts first to postpone his trial.

He is a scumbag, but he isn't a genocidal maniac.
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Originally Posted by GrandMasterFox View Post
Sorry, a bit late to the party here.

As for the op, no.
Netanyahu isn't seeking absolute power, in fact he did stop some (not all) attempts to to allow government to run too wild.

The left and right leaders are almost done signing a joint government. Things are looking at a better direction, in thus manner at least

Also the whole comparison of Bibi to Franco let alone Hitler is absurd. Bibi himself was the protector of the supreme court for years. Seriously don't jump into dumb conclusions based on clickbait articles.

He doesn't care about absolute power.

What he cares about is just his saving his own behind from jail and yes he will do almost anything to do it. It's not by chance that he shut down courts first to postpone his trial.

He is a scumbag, but he isn't a genocidal maniac.
I believe post-WWII international security efforts centered on a number of areas and were designed to stop future Hitlers. One main, central understanding was that international borders should never be changed by force. This was, and is, the clearest indicator that totalitarian policy is in play, and therefore those implementing it may be highly prone to increasing its scope of application and virulence of methods used.

Israel pursues a clear and unambiguous policy of occupation by force, of displacing civilian populations by force, and of enforcing such changes by more force (Golan Heights, West Bank), followed by real or attempted annexation. This is so ever since the Israeli right murdered the nation's president and made room for, gosh, Bibi. Sudetenland, much? (Crimea, much?*)

Israel has also recently used further warmongering (e.g., opposition to Iranian nuclear deal, including a grotesque exercise of allying itself with American fascists against that nation's elected leader during Bibi's insulting visit to a Republican congress). This certifies its favoring fact-free and slanderous propaganda over diligent and proper governance. Goebbels, much?

The arguments driving these policies are also unenlightened, based in their ultimate analysis on the very same grounds -- OMG, epic forehead slap -- as Islamic fundamentalism. So, religious, as opposed to political, absolutism.

"Wonderful improvement."





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Originally Posted by Hlafordlaes View Post
I believe post-WWII international security efforts centered on a number of areas and were designed to stop future Hitlers. One main, central understanding was that international borders should never be changed by force. This was, and is, the clearest indicator that totalitarian policy is in play, and therefore those implementing it may be highly prone to increasing its scope of application and virulence of methods used.

Israel pursues a clear and unambiguous policy of occupation by force, of displacing civilian populations by force, and of enforcing such changes by more force (Golan Heights, West Bank), followed by real or attempted annexation. This is so ever since the Israeli right murdered the nation's president and made room for, gosh, Bibi. Sudetenland, much? (Crimea, much?*)

Israel has also recently used further warmongering (e.g., opposition to Iranian nuclear deal, including a grotesque exercise of allying itself with American fascists against that nation's elected leader during Bibi's insulting visit to a Republican congress). This certifies its favoring fact-free and slanderous propaganda over diligent and proper governance. Goebbels, much?

The arguments driving these policies are also unenlightened, based in their ultimate analysis on the very same grounds -- OMG, epic forehead slap -- as Islamic fundamentalism. So, religious, as opposed to political, absolutism.

"Wonderful improvement."





* Accepted by and acceptable to Trumpublicans, who applaud the muscled Putin (kissing his shirtless photos nightly before bed), responding, as did Trump, by publicly kneeling to unzip and service Vlad, their Great White Hope.
What he said...
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Also the whole comparison of Bibi to Franco let alone Hitler is absurd.
Yet this is an Israel thread, and reaching godwins seem to be mandatory here.
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