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Old Today, 10:01 AM   #1521
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Clemson University is looking into possible coordinated social media campaigns between the Russians and major Wikileaks leaks
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Old Today, 10:11 AM   #1522
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Originally Posted by kellyb View Post
I've noticed when talking to Trumpers/GOP loyalists, when you try to have a serious conversation about anything political now, the smartest among them just start cracking bad jokes, like this is all just some surreal game.

It's all just reality TV to them.
I know. This is all entertainment to them. They are trolling the rest of the country. My father use to joke that the lunatics were running the asylum. But there is nothing charming about this McMurphy.
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Old Today, 10:56 AM   #1523
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Trump Tweets

"Inconceivable that the government would break into a lawyer’s office (early in the morning) - almost unheard of. Even more inconceivable that a lawyer would tape a client - totally unheard of & perhaps illegal. The good news is that your favorite President did nothing wrong!"

Ok so never mind my fave president, what about Trump?
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Old Today, 11:02 AM   #1524
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News at 11! Trump says Obama did nothing wrong!
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Old Today, 11:25 AM   #1525
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
News at 11! Trump says Obama did nothing wrong!
Awww, I wanted to say that!!!
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Old Today, 12:21 PM   #1526
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

"Inconceivable that the government would break into a lawyer’s office (early in the morning) - almost unheard of. Even more inconceivable that a lawyer would tape a client - totally unheard of & perhaps illegal. The good news is that your favorite President did nothing wrong!"

Ok so never mind my fave president, what about Trump?
Other than the "favorite president" bit, what's really funny is the special master in the case had decided the tape was privileged information and didn't need to be given to the prosecutor. But Trump said through his lawyers "nah, that's not privileged...".
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
News at 11! Trump says Obama did nothing wrong!
I’m giggling like an infant with gas.
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
From that website:



Does seem pretty damning of Wikileaks.
Has Wikileaks publicly disclosed a preference for the GOP? I don't recall that.

It would, of course, undermine their partiality. And it's bloody well consistent in the past couple of years. But a public pronouncement that they support a particular party? It seems to be counter to their stated objectives.
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Earth calling home: Barry Obama is not President
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
Has Wikileaks publicly disclosed a preference for the GOP? I don't recall that.

It would, of course, undermine their partiality. And it's bloody well consistent in the past couple of years. But a public pronouncement that they support a particular party? It seems to be counter to their stated objectives.
Assange is another Hillary hater. I can see him supporting Trump in spite of the GOP.
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Earth calling home: Barry Obama is not President
Perhaps someone should tell that to Trump and stop trying to blame Obama for everything. He's like a kid with chocolate all around his mouth and telling his mother his little brother ate the cookies.
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Old Today, 01:41 PM   #1532
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

"Inconceivable that the government would break into a lawyer’s office (early in the morning) - almost unheard of.
Yeah, I'm sure the feds always serve search warrants at times that are most convenient for the searchee.

Or is he suggesting that the feds don't search lawyers' offices? Equally stupid.

BTW, "serving a search warrant" is not "break[ing] into a lawyer's office." Damn that judicial system!
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Earth calling home: Barry Obama is not President

If that's so, name the collection of presidents from which Trump is intended to be the favourite one.


The next time you butt in, try another approach.
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Old Today, 02:19 PM   #1534
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Originally Posted by kellyb View Post
I've noticed when talking to Trumpers/GOP loyalists, when you try to have a serious conversation about anything political now, the smartest among them just start cracking bad jokes, like this is all just some surreal game.
It's all just reality TV to them.
I get around that by not having serious conversations with Trump loyalists. I'm amazed by your valor.
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Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post
If that's so, name the collection of presidents from which Trump is intended to be the favourite one.

The next time you butt in, try another approach.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ent_presidents
Vlad Putin
Mamnoon Hussain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

etc etc etc...

Drops the mic

/Oh dear, did I butt in? Ever so sorry. Look at me butting in again by posting on iSkep.Oh noes I did it again. Can a brother get a laughing dog!!!!
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
I know. This is all entertainment to them. They are trolling the rest of the country.
One response is to not feed the trolls.

Occasionally, rarely, I've ended up having exchanges with trolls and the bizarre thing is there is sometimes a sincere person in there. People back down. They see it as innocent fun, but if their barb is met with earnest engagement (as opposed to the knee-jerk response they're looking for), every now and then they drop the act (if it is an act.)

It's hard work. But maybe it can be worthwhile to get past this ****.
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Originally Posted by Darat View Post
From that website:



Does seem pretty damning of Wikileaks.
Also from that link

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/10/p...xts/index.html

Is it bad if your daughter describes you as "without any moral or legal compass" and says that you were involved in murders?
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