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Old 11th August 2017, 07:52 PM   #1
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The 2017 anniversary of 9/11 - not happening in Trutherland

It's only a month till the next anniversary of the 9/11 tragedy rolls in. Of course we expect the millions that have woken up since last year to join the millions already awake in 2016 to join all the rallies, sit-ins, conferences, marches, prayers etc. that demand a new investigation, right?

Perhaps they kicked me off their mailing list, but I have not received a newsletter from AE911Truth since June.
Nor can I find any thrilling events organized by Gage and his minions on their webpage (last news entry: June also)
Nothing on Facebook.

I have not seen any event scheduled for September 11 on 911Blogger

And even the 911TAP event calendar is empty, except for a monthly conference call: https://www.911tap.org/9-11-tap-even...alendar/2017/9


What a mighty Movement this is!
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Old 11th August 2017, 08:26 PM   #2
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They have nothing new to present. If some are still contributing to the likes of AE911T, it is just money down the drain.

How long does it take an organization to retest dust samples? Evidently years.
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Old 12th August 2017, 04:14 AM   #3
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The question is will the movement officially in the towel and say we couldn't prove our case and so we must have erred? Or claim that there was so much irrational resistance to "the truth" that the struggle can't go anywhere.. and is effectively blocked and a wasted effort? Game over... or just go silent...?

I suspect the formal 9/11 truth movement will go silent with the sites remaining as a legacy. Fanatics will continue to try to keep the sinking ship afloat... but it will simply descend to the bottom of the ocean...
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Old 12th August 2017, 05:56 AM   #4
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I think they are planning the big unveiling of the Hulsey study. I am sure there is still plenty of money in truth for it to continue for a few more years
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Old 12th August 2017, 07:28 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Richard the G View Post
I am sure there is still plenty of money in truth for it to continue for a few more years
I doubt that.

Gage may still have steady income. AE had their annual "membership" drive (i.e. a campaign to renew monthly payment plans) in spring, and it came with a promise that any pledge that came within a certain time window would be doubled by some mystery rich dude in the background!

(Oh, and I just read in that same newsletter that they will be "Unveiling our brand-new, cutting-edge website in September" and need some money for that!)


But elsewhere, donations come very slowly. For example, there is another AE spin-off, the Lawers' Committee for yadda yadda - they have a fund raiser out with which they want to raise an initial $7000, with a long-term goal of $800,000 - but is is stuck at just over $1000. Within the last 3 months, they raised only $75! And they (Mick Harrisson) admitted at a recent 9/11 Truth Teleconference that money isn't flowing in and they are for now paying expenses out of their own pockets.


There are also no numbers of supporters behind the TM any longer. Petitions fare worse and worse as time progresses. the 9/11 Truth Action Project just released a "Quarterly Progress Report" for Q2/2017 on their "911TAP Petition Project". In December 2016, they had stated publicly that they want to get at least 1 million signatures within 4 years, as an official target - but they indicatedt they privately hoped for as much as 4 million. But as a first step, they defined as their most important present target to reach 32,000 by the end of this year.
Well, half of that year had passed, and by the end of June, they had only 1,842 signatures - not even 6% of target. And signatures had been coming in slower in Q2 than in Q1. They were on track to catastrophically failing their most important current objective - but you read none of that in the progress report! No mention of any targets!

There is zero honesty in the TM. It's never been in such bad shape.
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Old 12th August 2017, 05:54 PM   #6
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When there is no traction or "progress" people will get disillusioned and lose whatever enthusiasm they might have had. People need to see some tangible results of progress toward a goal. For the truthers the progress would be the "authorities" and the MSM accepting the core ideas... things like: inside job, CD, no plane hit the pentagon...along with some of the specific claims... free fall, massive steel hurled 600 feet and so on.

I have not seen a single change in the authorities or MSM re 9/11. So some truthers want to know "why?_... is our argument(s) wrong? Are the arguments not read or heard? Is there a conspiracy to suppress it?

You'll read some excuses for the lack of progress... and the occasional celeb surfaces spouting truther beliefs... not that's about it. Hardcore truthers are not abandoning their beliefs...but their pitch is not working as expected. The reason being... it's not rigorous nor scientific... despite their claims to the contrary.
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Old 14th August 2017, 01:02 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by JSanderO View Post
I have not seen a single change in the authorities or MSM re 9/11. So some truthers want to know "why?_... is our argument(s) wrong?
I have not encountered any who entertain that thought in a very long time.
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
I doubt that.

Gage may still have steady income. AE had their annual "membership" drive (i.e. a campaign to renew monthly payment plans) in spring, and it came with a promise that any pledge that came within a certain time window would be doubled by some mystery rich dude in the background!

(Oh, and I just read in that same newsletter that they will be "Unveiling our brand-new, cutting-edge website in September" and need some money for that!)


But elsewhere, donations come very slowly. For example, there is another AE spin-off, the Lawers' Committee for yadda yadda - they have a fund raiser out with which they want to raise an initial $7000, with a long-term goal of $800,000 - but is is stuck at just over $1000. Within the last 3 months, they raised only $75! And they (Mick Harrisson) admitted at a recent 9/11 Truth Teleconference that money isn't flowing in and they are for now paying expenses out of their own pockets.


There are also no numbers of supporters behind the TM any longer. Petitions fare worse and worse as time progresses. the 9/11 Truth Action Project just released a "Quarterly Progress Report" for Q2/2017 on their "911TAP Petition Project". In December 2016, they had stated publicly that they want to get at least 1 million signatures within 4 years, as an official target - but they indicatedt they privately hoped for as much as 4 million. But as a first step, they defined as their most important present target to reach 32,000 by the end of this year.
Well, half of that year had passed, and by the end of June, they had only 1,842 signatures - not even 6% of target. And signatures had been coming in slower in Q2 than in Q1. They were on track to catastrophically failing their most important current objective - but you read none of that in the progress report! No mention of any targets!

There is zero honesty in the TM. It's never been in such bad shape.
It's been pretty steadily dying since November 2008. They could no longer hold onto the fiction that a large percentage of the elected Democrats bought into their beliefs (but were just afraid of being executed by Bush/Cheney). I could see the declining numbers at 9-11 Blogger (before they hid their sitemeter), but I could also see them at SLC.

Gage did a pretty good job of pumping some air into the corpse to make it seem like it was still breathing for awhile, but has pretty much abandoned the facade. As you point out their events calendar, which should be a priority, hasn't been updated in a long time. Probably reflects what happens when you don't pay anybody.

Who's behind the Truth Action Project? It's it the old Victoria Ashley/Jim Hoffman gang? I do love that their project update notes that Milton, Massachusetts and Stuart, Florida are tied for the sixth most petitions signed with 11.
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Originally Posted by Brainster View Post
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...As you point out their [AE911T's?] events calendar, which should be a priority, hasn't been updated in a long time. Probably reflects what happens when you don't pay anybody.
Oh I think Gage does pay a few people - without ever revealing it. The most useful sycophants.
Doesn't mean he is managing his organization well. He has pissed off too many fans and helpers over the time. Those he pays simple aren't the ones doing that work (like updating the events calendar).

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...Who's behind the Truth Action Project? It's it the old Victoria Ashley/Jim Hoffman gang?
I don't think so. It's an AE911T spin-off
Wayne Coste (formerly an AE Board member) seems to be the founder, he brought along David Fura of the Oregon activism (OR has for many years "outperformed" all other states, AE-petition-wise), David Slesinger and the lawyer Bill Jacoby. The 2015 Form 990 listed the following as Board members:
Wayne Coste, Chair (30 hours/week)
Carl Seeger Henry, Vice-Chair (10 h/w)
William Jacoby, Secretary (25 h/w)
Gail Adams, Treasurer (2 h/w)
I know nothing else about the second and the fourth person there. None was reported to receive any pay (out of the $33K revenues that year).
A new guy on the Board this year is Christopher Gruener. I know nothing about other than his AE profile:
Titel: Licensed Mental Health Counselor
Degree: <none>
Location: Newton Highlands, MA
Bio: "Christopher Gruener MA LMHC is a licensed mental health counselor, working in private practice in Newton MA. Christopher offers phone based counseling work, without a fee, to 9/11 Truth Activists/Groups who are seeking to maximize their community organizing effectiveness. He can be reached at 617-965-6552"
Personal Statement: "May 9/11 Truth (and the mysterious collapses of WTC Buildings 1,2, and 7) be properly investigated and widely publicized and may this contribute to greater justice, liberty, prosperity and peace for people all around the world."
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I do love that their project update notes that Milton, Massachusetts and Stuart, Florida are tied for the sixth most petitions signed with 11.
That's a hoot, isn't it?

In more than 10 years, AE911Truth collected under 25K signatures. 911TAP wanted to get to 32K within the first year.
Such disconnect from reality...
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Don't tell me Gage will have to get a real job?
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What is amusing is Alex Jones complete and total abandoning of 9/11 Truth. It does not sell well with his current clientele....
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