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10th March 2011, 02:23 PM | #1 |
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How did Chaim Levine become Chuck Lorre?
What is the conspiracy where immigrants come to the United States and completely disregard heritage, tradition and cultural references? Is there a conspiracy to "Americanize" the world?
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Maybe if there wasn't groups of people that treated immigrants like hell they wouldn't do this? Seems like a more logical answer than a conspiracy. And sometimes its done because of a name being very close to something offensive, such as in my family, the original name for my grandmothers side was Fukken. one can see how that would cause problems. |
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How did Tom Mapother become Tom Cruise? What's with all of these movie stars working in America under fake names. Archie Leach? Lucille LaSuer? Bernie Schwartz?
Its a conspiracy. |
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His name isn't Chaim Levine. It's Charles Levine. Please get it right.
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10th March 2011, 03:09 PM | #8 |
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Chaim....Charles....Schlemiel...Schlamazel....
I knew a guy in high school who's last name was Slater. But it was orginally O'Slattery, changed by his great-grandpa to hide their Irish heritage. |
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My understanding is that it's fairly common for Jewish families in America -- even "secular Jews" -- to give children a "Hebrew name" that isn't part of the name on their birth certificate, but is used during ceremonies, etc. Often (though not always), the first name is an anglicized version of the Hebrew name, or otherwise similar. So Lorre may have always had the "Hebrew name" Chaim without it ever being his "legal" name.
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Not conspiracy, just common sense. In Hollywood, if you are an actor or creator, you want a name that's relatable, easy to pronounce, and unique to you. Who knows how many Chuck Levines there are in Hollywood. Chuck Lorre, however, stands out.
And it's not like Lorre is an exceptionally white bread name anyway. In fact, it seems to be completely made up except as an Australian spelling for Laurie. |
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A friend's grandfather changed his last name from Bruno to Brown when he arrived in Canada.
OMG!!1!!1!!!1 A conspiracy to Canadianize the world!!1!!11!!!!! |
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well, i just used this example as it relates to a hot current topic.. but the issue is more than just a a name change.
we have second generation hindus- eating meat "muslim" not participating in Shalah (daily prayer) "catholics" not observing lent.. lol there appears to be a homogenization of culture not only in the US but around the world.. i find it hilarious how people from New Jersey think its the "new" Southern California.. There was a paradigm shift in communications circa 1999-2001 where the world government felt it was the last opportunity to grab complete control before the proliferation of cell phone cameras and online video.. the events of 911 where necessary to eradicate a true potential "classical" liberal revolution. 911 was used as a trigger mechanism to capture the minds of billions of people around the world. the command struture is sending a code to trigger impulses sent by current wireless signals (cdma, gms, iden, dtec) as a form of population control. HAARP is part of the issue as moon cycles and pacific ocean temperature phenomena create loopholes in the system. the point is that the hollywood power struture is a key element in the world command force by using coercive messaging to "round up the sheeple".. Chuck Lorre is a very powerful figure we should all fear. |
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I have Hindu friends who eat meat, their parent's eat meat and their relations in India eat meat. I have a Jewish colleague who eats Pork sausages and bacon. I have catholic relatives who haven't been to church since they were babptised. are they being 'Americanised'? They live in Yorkshire, they barely hold any allegiance to England.
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You could argue that his brother is evidence that it wasn't necessary for Charlie to change his name, but at the time, C. Sheen might have thought more doors would be opened by riding on his father's coattails.
Also, your counterargument assumes that the two brothers have equal acting skills. .......................................... ETA: furthermore children use all kinds of reasons in deciding whether or not to take their fathers' names. he might have wanted to show respect for his father, he might have wanted to annoy his brother, etc. |
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Well, I really brought Emilio because I wanted to mention the fantastic 'stache he was sporting on an interview he did with their father on the BBC (though I forgot to actually do so).
But Martin pushed open doors for his sons regardless of what names they used. They are both pretty terrible as actors. However, using the Sheen name probably did help get Charlie cast in Platoon, and by extension Wall Street, where he was put in the hands of a director who could use his weak acting skills to present a relatable everyman.
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How did Chaim Levine become Chuck Lorre?
well, first you need the long form birth certificate...... |
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Well, when a man loves a woman...
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When my great-grandfather came from Sweden, they changed Johansen to Johnson just because the dude at Ellis Island couldn't spell the former or understand the heavy accent.
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i respect orthodox religious jews that proudly wear a yarmulke.. it is sad when quasi religious people of all faiths cherry pick which aspects they will honor
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My Grandfather changed his first and middle names from Francis Laverne to Frank Leo.
Of, course he was a criminal (prohibition bootlegger and minor member of the Capone organization), ran out on my Grandma before my dad was born and was never seen again after 1950. On the plus side, I get to call my dad a bastard. |
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What was wrong with Charles Levine? He changed from that to Chuck Lorre? Well... he did go into producing comedy so...
Dolph Lundgren can't use that excuse though, changing from the perfectly respectable "Hans" to such a cheesy name is borderline criminal. Pff, americanized twats. Anywhooo, according to some observations there seems to be a lot less of 'that' kind of assimilation going on today. I noticed, for example, Mike (Myron Leon) Wallace's son David changed back to the original family name; Wallechinsky. |
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It's not Chaim Levine we have to worry about. When Chaim Witz comes to town, lock up your daughters.
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Natalie Hershalg - Natalie Portman
Archibald Alexander Leach - Cary Grant Farookh Bulsara - Freddie Mercury Hey Hey - Lassie Rush Limbaugh - Jeff Christie David Robert Jones - David Bowie Marina Ann Hantzis - Sasha Grey etc... And I've heard stories about semi-litterate immigration officials that americanized names out of pure ignorance. -Name? -José Herridas. -Welcome to the US of A, Joe Herring. |
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