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Old 11th September 2021, 06:16 AM   #1
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A thread for collateral damage victims of Covid

Alabama man dies of cardiac event after 43 hospitals with full ICUs turned him away

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The family of a man who died of heart issues in Mississippi is asking people to get vaccinated for COVID-19 after 43 hospitals across three states were unable to accept him because of full cardiac ICUs.

Ray Martin DeMonia died last week in Meridian, Mississippi. He was three days shy of his 74th birthday and a well-known native in Cullman, Alabama, his family said.

DeMonia suffered from a cardiac event, and emergency staff at Cullman Regional Medical Center had to bring him to the nearest available bed, which was nearly 200 miles away at a Mississippi hospital.
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Old 11th September 2021, 06:39 AM   #2
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Was he vaccinated?

Just wondering if I should shed some crocodile tears, or not.

Also, did this fool eat a lot of cheeseburgers? If so, his own dumb choice. Leave the bed for a more worthy recipient.
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Old 11th September 2021, 06:41 AM   #3
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In a well-publicized case two weeks ago Daniel Wilkinson, a U.S. Army veteran, died of gallstone pancreatitis, an emergent but surgically treatable condition, near Houston, Texas because of the lack of available ICU beds in the area. He was 46 years old.

The story as reported by CBS News
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Old 11th September 2021, 06:46 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Myriad View Post
In a well-publicized case two weeks ago Daniel Wilkinson, a U.S. Army veteran, died of gallstone pancreatitis, an emergent but surgically treatable condition, near Houston, Texas because of the lack of available ICU beds in the area. He was 46 years old.

The story as reported by CBS News
Look, if you die within 24 hrs of walking into the ER...your time was basically up. This is a super-acute case.
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Old 11th September 2021, 07:52 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
Look, if you die within 24 hrs of walking into the ER...your time was basically up. This is a super-acute case.
Good luck if you have a heart attack or are badly injured. I guess you'd just have to crawl back under your rock and wait to die.
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Old 11th September 2021, 08:01 AM   #6
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Jack is sick. He is coughing and sneezing and congested. Has a fever. His counts were pretty low yesterday and we are guessing he has Erica’s cold. Right now we are sitting in the parking lot of Memorial hospital while they decide what to do with him because the hospital is overloaded and they aren’t doing direct admits. So this is what freedom and everyone making their own choices looks like. It looks like a little boy with cancer sitting in a parking lot sick on a Saturday morning while everyone else exercises their rights.

This is a quote from one of my friends who is recovering from some pretty brutal cancer treatments and still needs a lot of medical follow-through (not using names of links due to privacy concerns):
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(Husband) and I have returned home to the comfort of our kitties and local wildlife. My stem cell transplant was canceled at the last minute due to the lack of hospital beds. Seems like they're filling up with unvaccinated Covid patients. I want to urge everyone who's not vaccinated to step up and do their part to help stop this Covid outbreak by getting vaccinated. You just might help save the life of someone you love.
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Old 11th September 2021, 08:30 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
Look, if you die within 24 hrs of walking into the ER...your time was basically up. This is a super-acute case.

Yeah, good point. Why do ambulances even bother to drive fast?
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Old 11th September 2021, 09:04 AM   #8
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To get there before the guys who are walking into the ER?!
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Old 11th September 2021, 05:55 PM   #9
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Good luck if you have a heart attack or are badly injured. I guess you'd just have to crawl back under your rock and wait to die.
As long we turn away the unvaccinated "fools" with heart attacks and injuries, I have no complaint.

Or do we only reject the "fools" who were unlucky enough to contract the virus?

Just interested in the proposed vetting process that might prevent the "collateral damage".
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Old 14th September 2021, 10:09 AM   #10
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This is a quote from one of my friends who is recovering from some pretty brutal cancer treatments and still needs a lot of medical follow-through (not using names of links due to privacy concerns):
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(Husband) and I have returned home to the comfort of our kitties and local wildlife. My stem cell transplant was canceled at the last minute due to the lack of hospital beds. Seems like they're filling up with unvaccinated Covid patients. I want to urge everyone who's not vaccinated to step up and do their part to help stop this Covid outbreak by getting vaccinated. You just might help save the life of someone you love.
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This old friend of mine was interviewed by the local (Oregon) National Public Radio station last week. They aired the interview this morning in Oregon and might carry it on the national feed this afternoon. Listen for an interview with a retired Park Ranger named Charles or Charlie.

I have not heard the interview myself, but Charlie's got decades of experience in public speaking and podcasts. He probably gave a good interview.
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Old 14th September 2021, 03:31 PM   #11
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Patients, Doctors Frustrated As Covid Delays Elective Treatments In Oregon

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A few weeks ago, Callagan was driving to Oregon Health and Science University in Portland for a bone marrow transplant. On the way, he got a call from his doctor.

“They’re like, ‘We were told this morning that we have to cancel the surgeries we had planned,’” he said.

Callagan’s surgery was canceled because the hospital was full. That’s the story at many hospitals in Oregon where they’ve been flooded with COVID-19 patients.
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“I’ve seen patients get ready to have their open-heart surgery that day," said Dr. Kent Dauterman, a cardiologist and co-director of the regional cardiac center in Medford. "I’ve seen patients have a brain tumor with visual changes, or someone with lung cancer and their procedures are canceled that day and they have to come back another day. You always hope they come back.”

In early September, Dauterman said the local hospital had 28 patients who were waiting for open-heart surgery, 24 who needed pacemakers, and 22 who were awaiting lung surgeries. He says during normal times, there wouldn’t be any wait.
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Long delays in an ER resulted in a child's infected appendix bursting, resulting in a long and costly hospital stay for the family.

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Seth was finally diagnosed with appendicitis more than six hours after arriving at Cleveland Clinic Martin Health North Hospital in late July. Around midnight, he was taken by ambulance to a sister hospital about a half-hour away that was better equipped to perform pediatric emergency surgery, his father said.

But by the time the doctor operated in the early morning hours, Seth’s appendix had burst — a potentially fatal complication.
https://www.propublica.org/article/a...appendix-burst

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The initial hospital bill for the stay came to more than $48,000, Nathaniel Osborn said. Although insurance paid for most of it, he said the family still borrowed against its house to cover the more than $5,000 in out-of-pocket costs so far.
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