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View Poll Results: Have you been vaccinated?
Yes, I am fully vaccinated. 157 85.33%
I have received 1 vaccination shot 17 9.24%
No, I intend to but haven't got around to it. 3 1.63%
No, There are personal medical reasons that I should not receive the vaccine 1 0.54%
No, COVID is a hoax. The vaccine is part of some Communist plot. 4 2.17%
No, God will protect me. You cannot trust science. 2 1.09%
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Old 17th July 2021, 10:46 AM   #161
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Originally Posted by Caroline13 View Post
Door to Door Gestapo Is Coming..... Not to MY DOOR.

We might as well be in China and/or North Korea
I realize you are probably exaggerating deliberately, but in general, I'm troubled by this kind of rhetoric. The US isn't anywhere near China or North Korea. It veered dangerously close towards the Nazi Germany ditch for four years, but the strong reaction to that seems to have stabilized it, at least for now. But China and North Korea? I always find it to be either really ignorant, or incredibly disrespectful to the people living under those regimes.

Read up on how China has handled the corona pandemic. They literally boarded up peoples' doors and windows. In the US, authorities have been struggling to get people to wear masks and maintain social distancing.

Police officers beating up peaceful protesters? Polling places closing to keep "the wrong people" from voting? The sitting president inventing election fraud and inciting his followers to storm the Capitol? The way people reject science and journalism, while conspiracy theories grow more and more mainstream? That's the things you should worry about if you fear the US turning into a dictatorship.

People showing up to your door to sing the praises of the vaccine, like a couple Mormon missionaries asking you if you've heard of the Lord and saviour? That's pretty low on the list.

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Question: when none of this happens, will that make you reconsider your sources and your worldview? I keep hearing of these things that will happen, like Trump returning like he's the Messiah or something, some huge Nuremberg-like trial of the people in charge of vaccination, or Obama killing all the Christians, or but they never materialize. When this happens, does it not make you ask yourself if maybe you're being manipulated?

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Vit C, Vit D, Zinc, Quercetin, Grape Seed Extract does the job.
I understand the appeal in believing this. Believe me, I do, I wish it worked this way, too. A pandemic is a chaotic, large, and scary situation, and we all wish there were simple solutions like just taking your vitamins or buying some specific supplement. Unfortunately, it isn't that easy, as evidenced by four million having succumbed to covid so far.
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Old 17th July 2021, 11:25 AM   #162
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Yeah the Gestapo is well known for making suggestions and then leaving you be.
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Yeah the Gestapo is well known for making suggestions and then leaving you be.
When you cannot make a rational argument hyperbole is the obvious diversion.
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Yeah the Gestapo is well known for making suggestions and then leaving you be.
Often, here in Winter, when the Gestapo local police stop you for a sobriety check, they'll give you an ice scraper for your car windows. There is no end to their abuse!
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Old 17th July 2021, 12:09 PM   #165
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Often, here in Winter, when the Gestapo local police stop you for a sobriety check, they'll give you an ice scraper for your car windows. There is no end to their abuse!
I have a shovel, icr scraper and snow brush in my car 365 days a year. Up here you never know.
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Old 18th July 2021, 11:51 AM   #166
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Often, here in Winter, when the Gestapo local police stop you for a sobriety check, they'll give you an ice scraper for your car windows. There is no end to their abuse!
I even hear tell they'll feed you cold soup!!!





A wait... that was The Gaspacho, sorry.
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I even hear tell they'll feed you cold soup!!!





A wait... that was The Gaspacho, sorry.

Now, that's funny. (And I'm assuming you misspelled 'gazpacho' on purpose. )
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Old 18th July 2021, 01:40 PM   #168
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Now, that's funny. (And I'm assuming you misspelled 'gazpacho' on purpose. )
Thanks, yep the spelling of Gaspacho was intentional. Though, apparently it is a Portuguese spelling of the name. However, the misspelling of "Ah" as just "A" wasn't intentional .
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I received my second shot today. Glad I did. It was the pharmacy's last dose of the Pfizer vaccine.
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Old 18th July 2021, 04:07 PM   #170
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I received my second shot today. Glad I did. It was the pharmacy's last dose of the Pfizer vaccine.
Happy V2 day then, hope no ill effects come your way. Mine was suppose to be the J&J single dose, but then they put a hold on it at that time. So they gave us the Moderna instead. Never noticed anything on either shot, except for the first one, my tinnitus seemed a bit to the higher side of normal.
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Old 18th July 2021, 04:28 PM   #171
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Happy V2 day then, hope no ill effects come your way. Mine was suppose to be the J&J single dose, but then they put a hold on it at that time. So they gave us the Moderna instead. Never noticed anything on either shot, except for the first one, my tinnitus seemed a bit to the higher side of normal.
The pharmacist said some people feel out of sorts. He said he felt that way the day after his second dose. But I have always been skeptical when people attribute not feeling well to something specific. As if they know the reason for how they are feeling.

You know. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

But we will see.
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Old 18th July 2021, 07:21 PM   #172
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The pharmacist said some people feel out of sorts. He said he felt that way the day after his second dose. But I have always been skeptical when people attribute not feeling well to something specific. As if they know the reason for how they are feeling.



You know. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.



But we will see.
I think it is a typical enough result and given there is a sensible and plausible enough explanation for that outcome to assign it some provisional credibility.

A good number of the symptoms of any viral infection are your own body's natural defenses at work. A substance intended to simulate the presence of a virus would be expected to bring on such symptoms as mild fever, aches, and fatigue. Your body is trying to make the guest feel unwelcome.

I have heard it described as a form of self-induced low-grade chemotherapy.

Also, resources typically used to keep you operating at full capacity are being used to mass-produce immune system components. Like a country mobilizing for war, sorry no ball bearings for passenger vehicles right now, we need to build tanks.

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I think it is a typical enough result and given there is a sensible and plausible enough explanation for that outcome to assign it some provisional credibility.

A good number of the symptoms of any viral infection are your own body's natural defenses at work. A substance intended to simulate the presence of a virus would be expected to bring on such symptoms as mild fever, aches, and fatigue. Your body is trying to make the guest feel unwelcome.

I have heard it described as a form of self-induced low-grade chemotherapy.

Also, resources typically used to keep you operating at full capacity are being used to mass-produce immune system components. Like a country mobilizing for war, sorry no ball bearings for passenger vehicles right now, we need to build tanks.
Low grade chemotherapy? I don't buy that description. I've done a lot of volunteering for the American Cancer Society. It and Planned Parenthood are the two charities I give to every year.
I have spent a lot of time with patients particularly children undergoing chemo. People's reaction to chemo are almost immediate and usually involves vomiting, hair loss and sometimes other symptoms.

The mRNA vaccine is absolutely nothing like chemo.
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Low grade chemotherapy? I don't buy that description. I've done a lot of volunteering for the American Cancer Society. It and Planned Parenthood are the two charities I give to every year.

I have spent a lot of time with patients particularly children undergoing chemo. People's reaction to chemo are almost immediate and usually involves vomiting, hair loss and sometimes other symptoms.



The mRNA vaccine is absolutely nothing like chemo.
Jesus christ, it's an analogy.
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Low grade chemotherapy? I don't buy that description. I've done a lot of volunteering for the American Cancer Society. It and Planned Parenthood are the two charities I give to every year.
I have spent a lot of time with patients particularly children undergoing chemo. People's reaction to chemo are almost immediate and usually involves vomiting, hair loss and sometimes other symptoms.

The mRNA vaccine is absolutely nothing like chemo.
Not all chemo has those side effects. My mom underwent 3 years of chemo for cervical cancer and never got sick or lost her hair. It all depends on the type of chemo drugs that are used.
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
I think it is a typical enough result and given there is a sensible and plausible enough explanation for that outcome to assign it some provisional credibility.

A good number of the symptoms of any viral infection are your own body's natural defenses at work. A substance intended to simulate the presence of a virus would be expected to bring on such symptoms as mild fever, aches, and fatigue. Your body is trying to make the guest feel unwelcome.

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Yep, one of the problems of being on immunosuppressants, as some of us are here. Vaccines tend to be less effective. As the very immunological response they are intended to invoke is somewhat suppressed by such medications. I stopped taking them for the 2 vaccine times, but there is still a system residual.
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Does this help answer your question? The CPAC audience cheered when it was mentioned that the country failed to meet the July 4th vaccination goal.

And I've been castigated for calling Trump supporters idiots. I will continue to do so because they are.
What's wrong with calling idiots idiots?
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What's wrong with calling idiots idiots?
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Why should Trump supporters take the vaccine if Joe Biden's just going to get the credit? That makes no logical sense.
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Why should Trump supporters take the vaccine if Joe Biden's just going to get the credit? That makes no logical sense.
Good point. Dying for Trump is a worthy cause.
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Good point. Dying for Trump is a worthy cause.
I wish they would hurry up and get it over with.
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Why should Trump supporters take the vaccine if Joe Biden's just going to get the credit? That makes no logical sense.
You just know that's how a fair few of them think.
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Yeah the problem with just letting Darwinism take its course is that the Trumpsters will still manage to stay alive just long enough before dying to show up the libs for new variants and strains to emerge.
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I just saw a Louisiana man, sick with Covid in the hospital, asked if he regrets not getting vaccinated. His answer: No. He said that when he gets out, he still won't get vaccinated. When asked why, his answer was that he's tired of the government trying to shove vaccines down everyone's throat.

This kind of thinking is just stupid. He's literally choosing possible death because he doesn't want 'to be told what to do'. I wonder if he feels the same way about seat belt, helmet, drinking while driving, etc. laws. Does he resent the government 'telling him what to do' when it comes to getting a driver's license, a passport, permits, paying taxes, or any of the other thousands of things the government 'tells us what to do'?

He's obviously politicized getting a vaccine in his mind. Thanks GOP!
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At least he's not being a drain on taxpayers. It's like the Founders said: Live Free and Die.
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I just saw a Louisiana man, sick with Covid in the hospital, asked if he regrets not getting vaccinated. His answer: No. He said that when he gets out, he still won't get vaccinated. When asked why, his answer was that he's tired of the government trying to shove vaccines down everyone's throat.

This kind of thinking is just stupid. He's literally choosing possible death because he doesn't want 'to be told what to do'. I wonder if he feels the same way about seat belt, helmet, drinking while driving, etc. laws. Does he resent the government 'telling him what to do' when it comes to getting a driver's license, a passport, permits, paying taxes, or any of the other thousands of things the government 'tells us what to do'?

He's obviously politicized getting a vaccine in his mind. Thanks GOP!
This lady said EXACTLY the same thing.

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Why should Trump supporters take the vaccine if Joe Biden's just going to get the credit? That makes no logical sense.

The Democrats need to get the message out that, according to Joe Biden, people should not point loaded guns at their own heads and pull the trigger. He should do a press conference right now.
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I just saw a Louisiana man, sick with Covid in the hospital, asked if he regrets not getting vaccinated. His answer: No. He said that when he gets out, he still won't get vaccinated. When asked why, his answer was that he's tired of the government trying to shove vaccines down everyone's throat.

This kind of thinking is just stupid. He's literally choosing possible death because he doesn't want 'to be told what to do'. I wonder if he feels the same way about seat belt, helmet, drinking while driving, etc. laws. Does he resent the government 'telling him what to do' when it comes to getting a driver's license, a passport, permits, paying taxes, or any of the other thousands of things the government 'tells us what to do'?

He's obviously politicized getting a vaccine in his mind. Thanks GOP!
He's not even being told what to do, he's tired of being given recommendations
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NO jabs, no face diapers and that goes for my family, good friends and Me. And we are all fine. THe pressure from my grandkids family (cousins etc is sickening)...
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NO jabs, no face diapers and that goes for my family, good friends and Me. And we are all fine. THe pressure from my grandkids family (cousins etc is sickening)...
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NO jabs, no face diapers and that goes for my family, good friends and Me. And we are all fine. THe pressure from my grandkids family (cousins etc is sickening)...
That's right. You know better.
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Most of the unvaccinated are Trump supporters. If we maintain a slow drain of dying Trump supporters from COVID-19 until summer of 2022 and get some really good spikes around the 4th of July and Labor Day, it could be a great thing for the country in Texas, Ohio, Wisconsin, Florida, Arizona and Georgia. If enough Trump supporters die, it could offset the voting restrictions in most of those states. We can always get immigrants to replace the dead Trump supporters. They're better Americans anyway.
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The stupidity of the anti-vaxxers never ceases to amaze me. The fact that over 99% of those dying from Covid are unvaccinated would convince a normal person to get it. But, no....not Trump supporters-conspiracy theorists- just plain stupid people. They think they know more than the epidemiologists and doctors. They are so stupid they don't know they're stupid. In fact, they're proud of their stupidity. I almost feel sorry for them. Almost. I hope every single one of them gets Covid and ends up on ventilators regretting their choice. But, they're like the one guy I saw on TV who's in the hospital with Covid but he still says he wouldn't have gotten a shot knowing how sick he'd get. You can't fix stupid.
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NO jabs, no face diapers and that goes for my family, good friends and Me. And we are all fine. THe pressure from my grandkids family (cousins etc is sickening)...
Imagine being sickened, because relatives don't want you to get sick or die? (How awful.)
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You just know that's how a fair few of them think.
I wouldn't exactly call it thinking.
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NO jabs, no face diapers and that goes for my family, good friends and Me. And we are all fine. THe pressure from my grandkids family (cousins etc is sickening)...
Where do you stand on Darwin?
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Most of the unvaccinated are Trump supporters. If we maintain a slow drain of dying Trump supporters from COVID-19 until summer of 2022 and get some really good spikes around the 4th of July and Labor Day, it could be a great thing for the country in Texas, Ohio, Wisconsin, Florida, Arizona and Georgia. If enough Trump supporters die, it could offset the voting restrictions in most of those states. We can always get immigrants to replace the dead Trump supporters. They're better Americans anyway.
A friend of mine and I were discussing this earlier today. What a bunch of maroons. We might be better off without them.
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Originally Posted by Caroline13 View Post
NO jabs, no face diapers and that goes for my family, good friends and Me.
I would imagine that your friends and family are humoring you so you will shut up already.

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I would imagine some of them are fine because they're vaccinated.

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THe pressure from my grandkids family (cousins etc is sickening)...
What's sickening is anti-mask, anti-vax, anti-science cement-headedness.
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Where do you stand on Darwin?
Maybe a blanket Dawin Award on their tombstones. Too many for individual awards.
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Most of the unvaccinated are Trump supporters. If we maintain a slow drain of dying Trump supporters from COVID-19 until summer of 2022 and get some really good spikes around the 4th of July and Labor Day, it could be a great thing for the country in Texas, Ohio, Wisconsin, Florida, Arizona and Georgia. If enough Trump supporters die, it could offset the voting restrictions in most of those states. We can always get immigrants to replace the dead Trump supporters. They're better Americans anyway.
Combine that with my idea to require trophy hunters to hunt each other, and things could really start improving.
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