IS Forum
Forum Index Register Members List Events Mark Forums Read Help

Go Back   International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics
 


Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today.
Tags 2021 elections , California politics , Gavin Newsom

Reply
Old 6th August 2021, 06:58 AM   #41
plague311
Great minds think...
 
plague311's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 10,004
Originally Posted by Darat View Post
It's really strange I think to most of us outside the USA that you have all these candidates running as "republicans" or "democrats". Who decides that?
The person does. No one else gets a say I don't think. The party can refuse to fund you, acknowledge you, they can strip you have assignments, etc., but I'm pretty positive it's up to the person to decide what they're running as.
__________________
"Circumcision and death threats go together like milk and cookies." - William Parcher

“There are times when the mind is dealt such a blow it hides itself in insanity. While this may not seem beneficial, it is. There are times when reality is nothing but pain, and to escape that pain the mind must leave reality behind.” - Patrick Rothfuss

Last edited by plague311; 6th August 2021 at 07:17 AM.
plague311 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 10:31 AM   #42
Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
 
Stacyhs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 21,574
Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Is there REALLY a place called Shingle Springs in the USA? Really??

Yep.

Damn...
Yep. And everyone there is required by law not to get a shingles vaccination!
Stacyhs is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 10:39 AM   #43
Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
 
Stacyhs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 21,574
What is it with the GOP and celebrities running for and often winning political office? Wrestlers, movie stars, TV personalities, etc have all run and won. I'm sure there have been some that were Dems, but most of them are GOP.
Stacyhs is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 10:59 AM   #44
pgwenthold
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 20,349
Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
What is it with the GOP and celebrities running for and often winning political office? Wrestlers, movie stars, TV personalities, etc have all run and won. I'm sure there have been some that were Dems, but most of them are GOP.
Just off the top of my head

Ronald Reagan
Sonny Bono
Clint Eastwood
Arnold Schwarzenegger

Al Franken

I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about it so there are countless I miss
__________________
"As your friend, I have to be honest with you: I don't care about you or your problems" - Chloe, Secret Life of Pets
pgwenthold is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 11:17 AM   #45
crescent
Illuminator
 
crescent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 4,197
Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
Just off the top of my head

Ronald Reagan
Sonny Bono
Clint Eastwood
Arnold Schwarzenegger

Al Franken

I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about it so there are countless I miss
Fred Grandy (Gopher from The Love Boat)
Jesse Ventura


On the Democratic side, Ashley Judd ran for office but didn't win.
crescent is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 12:25 PM   #46
plague311
Great minds think...
 
plague311's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 10,004
Originally Posted by crescent View Post
Fred Grandy (Gopher from The Love Boat)
Jesse Ventura


On the Democratic side, Ashley Judd ran for office but didn't win.
Pretty sure Clay Aiken ran at one time as well, but failed.
__________________
"Circumcision and death threats go together like milk and cookies." - William Parcher

“There are times when the mind is dealt such a blow it hides itself in insanity. While this may not seem beneficial, it is. There are times when reality is nothing but pain, and to escape that pain the mind must leave reality behind.” - Patrick Rothfuss
plague311 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 01:01 PM   #47
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
 
dudalb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 52,701
Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Is there REALLY a place called Shingle Springs in the USA? Really??

Yep.

Damn...

Yes. It's about 35 miles from the State Captiol at Sacramento, I know people who live there,and have been through it on my way to Lake Tahoe more times then I can remember.
In California, we have anumber of towns with colorful names, dating from the GOld Rush perios.
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty.

Robert Heinlein.
dudalb is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 01:25 PM   #48
Bob001
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: US of A
Posts: 13,935
Taking a step back, what kind of crazy recall process is this? Voters throw out the incumbent and choose the successor in one election? The consequence is that only 50.1% of voters could reject Newsom, then a tiny plurality could choose his successor. If there are 10 candidates with roughly equal support, somebody could become governor with 11 percent of the votes. And it looks like there might actually be more than 10 candidates. How could anyone think this makes sense? And how hard will it be to recall the next guy? I could imagine petitions starting the day after the election.
Quote:
There was no limit on the number of candidates who could run in the recall and 46 qualified for the ballot. The election says whoever gets the most votes wins – even without a majority, so it’s entirely possible that someone could be elected in a recall while winning less than half the votes.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ion/ar-AAMWPXO
Bob001 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 01:41 PM   #49
crescent
Illuminator
 
crescent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 4,197
Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
Taking a step back, what kind of crazy recall process is this? Voters throw out the incumbent and choose the successor in one election? The consequence is that only 50.1% of voters could reject Newsom, then a tiny plurality could choose his successor. If there are 10 candidates with roughly equal support, somebody could become governor with 11 percent of the votes. And it looks like there might actually be more than 10 candidates. How could anyone think this makes sense? And how hard will it be to recall the next guy? I could imagine petitions starting the day after the election.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ion/ar-AAMWPXO
Currently 46 people with potential for their names to appear on the ballot.

Last time CA did this, they elected an Austrian cyborg from the 21st Century (truth be told, he wasn't all that bad as politicians go, at least he was a moderate and not a right-wing bomb-thrower).

This time around I only recognize one name on the list - Caitlyn Jenner.

I guess we'll see how it plays out. CA often really earns its reputation for being ungovernable.
crescent is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 01:41 PM   #50
xterra
So far, so good...
 
xterra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: On the outskirts of Nowhere; the middle was too crowded
Posts: 3,830
Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Is there REALLY a place called Shingle Springs in the USA? Really??

Yep.

Damn...

Would you believe at least four places are named Gobbler(')s Knob?
__________________
Over we go....
xterra is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 01:51 PM   #51
Bob001
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: US of A
Posts: 13,935
Originally Posted by crescent View Post
Currently 46 people with potential for their names to appear on the ballot.

Last time CA did this, they elected an Austrian cyborg from the 21st Century (truth be told, he wasn't all that bad as politicians go, at least he was a moderate and not a right-wing bomb-thrower).
......
That was in 2003, before the GOP went Nazi, and he won 48.6% of the vote. What will happen now is that the moderate/rational candidates will split the vote, and the loudest, most batcrap Trumper will win with all the votes from all the batcrap Trumpers.

If Newsom survives, the best thing he could do in his final term, whenever it comes, is work to reform or eliminate the recall process. He won't be accused of a selfish interest.
Bob001 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 02:01 PM   #52
Bob001
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: US of A
Posts: 13,935
Originally Posted by Darat View Post
It's really strange I think to most of us outside the USA that you have all these candidates running as "republicans" or "democrats". Who decides that?
They can also run as third-party candidates. All you have to do is state your party when you register to vote, and you can change your registration almost whenever you want. You can also be "independent," as a substantial minority of Americans choose.

In 2020, in addition to Biden and Trump, there were eight third-party candidates on ballots in at least some states.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_U...ntial_election
Bob001 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 02:04 PM   #53
Bob001
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: US of A
Posts: 13,935
Question: To what degree do California's problems continue to step from Prop. 13? Creating a tax system where identical properties are assessed wildly different taxes based on how long the owner has lived there and limiting the ability of the legislature to raise taxes has to distort the entire state economy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_C...Proposition_13
Bob001 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 03:34 PM   #54
mgidm86
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,728
Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
And the criticism of Newsom from a lot of Democrats is he lifted them too soon.
I will vote against the recall, but hold my nose while doing so because Newsom has not been a very good governor but nothing he had done desreves a recall.
Me too. California will not vote in a Republican, especially after Trump. Newsom is an ass and a pretty bad guy but this recall is just typical Repub BS.

Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
What is it with the GOP and celebrities running for and often winning political office? Wrestlers, movie stars, TV personalities, etc have all run and won. I'm sure there have been some that were Dems, but most of them are GOP.

Because Republicans prefer fantasy to reality and are generally stupid.
__________________
Stop feeding the trolls PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
mgidm86 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 04:01 PM   #55
Bob001
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: US of A
Posts: 13,935
Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
Me too. California will not vote in a Republican, especially after Trump. Newsom is an ass and a pretty bad guy but this recall is just typical Repub BS.
.....
Can we be sure about that? With the vote split dozens of ways, it wouldn't take much for a Repub to win.
Bob001 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 06:37 PM   #56
Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
 
Stacyhs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 21,574
Originally Posted by crescent View Post
Fred Grandy (Gopher from The Love Boat)
Jesse Ventura


On the Democratic side, Ashley Judd ran for office but didn't win.
Jesse ran on a third party ticket. But there are a lot of WWE wrestlers who ran as Republicans. And then there always Carly Fiorino.
Stacyhs is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 6th August 2021, 06:41 PM   #57
Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
 
Stacyhs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 21,574
Originally Posted by xterra View Post
Would you believe at least four places are named Gobbler(')s Knob?
Hey! My sister dated a very nice 6'6" guy with the last name of Gobbler! I wish she'd married him instead of the GOP gun nut she did. So does she.
Stacyhs is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 7th August 2021, 03:51 PM   #58
a_unique_person
Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning
 
a_unique_person's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open.
Posts: 43,429
Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
Apparently there is a God.

That's why he made Trump lose.
__________________
Continually pushing the boundaries of mediocrity.
Everything is possible, but not everything is probable.
“Perception is real, but the truth is not.” - Imelda Marcos
a_unique_person is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 7th August 2021, 04:18 PM   #59
mgidm86
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,728
Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
Can we be sure about that? With the vote split dozens of ways, it wouldn't take much for a Repub to win.
No, can't be sure. This state is so f'd up...we got Ahnold last time.

Hopefully the recall will lose and we won't need to select someone else. Newsom should never have been gov but he'd been groomed for it for years. There was no way he wouldn't be gov eventually.

I believe Caitlin Jenner is a leading Republican. Ya should be a frickin mess.
__________________
Stop feeding the trolls PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
mgidm86 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 8th August 2021, 05:26 PM   #60
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
 
dudalb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 52,701
Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
No, can't be sure. This state is so f'd up...we got Ahnold last time.

Hopefully the recall will lose and we won't need to select someone else. Newsom should never have been gov but he'd been groomed for it for years. There was no way he wouldn't be gov eventually.

I believe Caitlin Jenner is a leading Republican. Ya should be a frickin mess.
Ahnuld had wide appeall, you can't say the same for any of the GOP canidate
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty.

Robert Heinlein.

Last edited by dudalb; 8th August 2021 at 05:28 PM.
dudalb is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 8th August 2021, 05:33 PM   #61
Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
 
Stacyhs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 21,574
Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Ahnuld had wide appeall, you can't say the same for any of the GOP canidate
Arnold S. detests Trump and called him 'the worst president ever" so he's one of the few GOP politicians who has some cajones.
Stacyhs is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 8th August 2021, 06:14 PM   #62
TheGoldcountry
Philosopher
 
TheGoldcountry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,175
Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Is there REALLY a place called Shingle Springs in the USA? Really??

Yep.

Damn...
I live about 45 minutes away. However you picture it is probably pretty accurate.
__________________
I have no idea what you're trying to say, but I'm still pretty sure that you're wrong. -Akhenaten
I sometimes think the Bible was inspired by Satan to make God look bad. And then it backfired on Him when He underestimated the stupidity of religious ideologues. -MontagK505
TheGoldcountry is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 9th August 2021, 01:48 AM   #63
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
 
Norman Alexander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Gundungurra
Posts: 10,518
Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Yes. It's about 35 miles from the State Captiol at Sacramento, I know people who live there,and have been through it on my way to Lake Tahoe more times then I can remember.
In California, we have anumber of towns with colorful names, dating from the GOld Rush perios.
Originally Posted by xterra View Post
Would you believe at least four places are named Gobbler(')s Knob?
Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry View Post
I live about 45 minutes away. However you picture it is probably pretty accurate.
I exclaimed only because "shingles" is a nasty disease related to chicken pox. Which suggests if you bathe or drink at these springs, you will catch some permanent infection. I know that isn't so (betting it is to do with roofing shingles in some way), but it just sounds...icky. Like Gobbler's Knob, really.

Anyway, carry on, California!
__________________
...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015
Norman Alexander is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 9th August 2021, 04:36 AM   #64
SuburbanTurkey
Penultimate Amazing
 
SuburbanTurkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 11,039
Caitlyn Jenner's campaign is broke and never polled out of single digits. Despite her name recognition, there's very little evidence that she was ever a serious contender.

https://www.politico.com/states/cali...tretch-9426996
__________________
Gobble gobble
SuburbanTurkey is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 9th August 2021, 07:52 AM   #65
varwoche
Penultimate Amazing
 
varwoche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Puget Sound
Posts: 15,618
Maybe Gary Coleman will run again, in Weekend With Bernie mode.
__________________
To survive election season on a skeptics forum, one must understand Hymie-the-Robot.
varwoche is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 9th August 2021, 03:30 PM   #66
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
 
dudalb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 52,701
Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
I exclaimed only because "shingles" is a nasty disease related to chicken pox. Which suggests if you bathe or drink at these springs, you will catch some permanent infection. I know that isn't so (betting it is to do with roofing shingles in some way), but it just sounds...icky. Like Gobbler's Knob, really.

Anyway, carry on, California!
Shingle Springs got it's name because during the Gold Rush, a couple of people set up a shingle factory there..as in the kind of shingles you use for roofing.
And just up the road is Placerville, which used to be called Hangtown because of it's fondness for informal and quick justice.
it's not like Shingle Springs is i the middle of nowhere;it's right on the main freeway you take to go from the SF Bay Area to the Lake Tahoe resort area.
it's actully become quite pricey as far as homes go being within commuting distance of Sacramento.
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty.

Robert Heinlein.
dudalb is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 9th August 2021, 08:34 PM   #67
mgidm86
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,728
Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Ahnuld had wide appeall, you can't say the same for any of the GOP canidate

Ya but Arnold was no Republican either (maybe by name), and pretty ineffective. As I recall voters rejected most, if not all, of what he tried to do. His appeal was the cute way he said Caleefoynia.

I like him okay now though.

My point was though that a recall election isn't going to make anything better, it will make it worse. It's a cluster F. I don't like Newsom but I don't like the idea of a handful of scammers recalling a governor.

I say scammers because this is the 5th or 6th recall attempt on Newsom. It has less to do with Covid than it does with the Repubs seeing a way to possibly get one of their own in there.

Now a recall in Florida could be a good thing, maybe.
__________________
Stop feeding the trolls PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
mgidm86 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 10th August 2021, 10:01 AM   #68
sir drinks-a-lot
Illuminator
 
sir drinks-a-lot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Cole Valley, CA
Posts: 4,813
I had to LOL when I saw the footage of Newsom cleaning garbage from under the overpass in Berkeley last night. Looks like someone is not polling well!
__________________
I don't like that man. I must get to know him better. --Abraham Lincoln
sir drinks-a-lot is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 10th August 2021, 10:16 AM   #69
theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: The Antimemetics Division
Posts: 53,571
Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
Question: To what degree do California's problems continue to step from Prop. 13? Creating a tax system where identical properties are assessed wildly different taxes based on how long the owner has lived there and limiting the ability of the legislature to raise taxes has to distort the entire state economy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_C...Proposition_13
Seems like the distortion would come from constantly ratcheting up the tax burden on homeowners.

I can see pushing taxes on commercial properties. These are supposed to be revenue-generating assets. It makes sense to expect you to grow a business there and tax you accordingly. But taxing homeowners as if they're growing their primary residence like a business just seems perverse.
__________________
There is no Antimemetics Division.
theprestige is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 10th August 2021, 10:24 AM   #70
Bob001
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: US of A
Posts: 13,935
Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
.....
it's actully become quite pricey as far as homes go being within commuting distance of Sacramento.
I'm surprised it hasn't been renamed. I dunno if upscale home buyers see "Shingle Springs" as a prestige address.
Bob001 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 10th August 2021, 10:54 AM   #71
theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: The Antimemetics Division
Posts: 53,571
Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Is there REALLY a place called Shingle Springs in the USA? Really??

Yep.

Damn...
ETA: Adding to the parade of Alien Space Robots With a Gratuitously Poor Grasp of English:
Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
I'm surprised it hasn't been renamed. I dunno if upscale home buyers see "Shingle Springs" as a prestige address.
You know there's such a thing as roof shingles, right? And shingle also refers to pebbly ground cover, such as at a beach.

Shingle Springs was named after the roof shingle manufacturing operation established nearby.

Why is this a problem for you?
__________________
There is no Antimemetics Division.
theprestige is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 10th August 2021, 11:40 AM   #72
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
 
dudalb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 52,701
Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
I'm surprised it hasn't been renamed. I dunno if upscale home buyers see "Shingle Springs" as a prestige address.
This is the West;unique and colorful names are part of it's tradition.
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty.

Robert Heinlein.
dudalb is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 11th August 2021, 09:33 AM   #73
Donal
Illuminator
 
Donal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,380
Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
Just off the top of my head

Ronald Reagan
Sonny Bono
Clint Eastwood
Arnold Schwarzenegger

Al Franken

I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about it so there are countless I miss
Some of those are really just ceremonial like Clint Eastwood and Kane from the WWE being "mayor".

Although, ya, for the party that likes to say "celebrities should stay out of politics", they sure do love to vote for them. I remember when they put some game show host who played a rich guy on TV up for president.
__________________
SuburbanNerd A blog for making tech make sense
Donal is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 11th August 2021, 09:35 AM   #74
Donal
Illuminator
 
Donal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,380
Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
Have you seen the Star Wars bar scene of creatures running to replace the current governor? Kaitlin Jenner is the most stable of the lot. The rest don't even qualify as being human. What a bunch of failed genetic experiments. https://calmatters.org/explainers/ne...ll-candidates/
The most disappointing thing about that list is that Dwayne Johnson isn't on it.
__________________
SuburbanNerd A blog for making tech make sense
Donal is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 11th August 2021, 10:23 AM   #75
pgwenthold
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 20,349
Originally Posted by Donal View Post
Some of those are really just ceremonial like Clint Eastwood and Kane from the WWE being "mayor".

Although, ya, for the party that likes to say "celebrities should stay out of politics", they sure do love to vote for them. I remember when they put some game show host who played a rich guy on TV up for president.
But it's not just tv/movie people. I just remembered Tommy Tuberville, who's credentials are that he was a football coach in Alabama. And Jim Jordan, wrestling coach at Ohio St. Now there are rumors about Hershel Walker in Georgia, although the fact that he lives in Texas and his wife commits voter fraud by voting in Georgia could get in the way.
__________________
"As your friend, I have to be honest with you: I don't care about you or your problems" - Chloe, Secret Life of Pets
pgwenthold is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 11th August 2021, 10:41 AM   #76
Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
 
Stacyhs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 21,574
Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
But it's not just tv/movie people. I just remembered Tommy Tuberville, who's credentials are that he was a football coach in Alabama. And Jim Jordan, wrestling coach at Ohio St. Now there are rumors about Hershel Walker in Georgia, although the fact that he lives in Texas and his wife commits voter fraud by voting in Georgia could get in the way.
Tuberville of the infamous "I tell people, my dad fought 76 years ago in Europe to free Europe of socialism. Today, you look at this election, we have half this country that made some kind of movement, now they might not believe in it 100 percent, but they made some kind of movement toward socialism. So we're fighting it right here on our own soil."

He was overwhelmingly elected in AL even though:

Quote:
During the GOP primaries, for example, Tuberville refused to debate former Attorney General Jeff Sessions. During the general election, he also refused to debate Sen. Doug Jones (D). After struggling to discuss what the Voting Rights Act is, the retired coach seemed to retreat even further from microphones.

In mid-October, the Alabama Media Group's Kyle Whitmire noted, "With three weeks left before the election, Tuberville's campaign strategy is to say as little as possible. No debates. No interviews. No nothing. Tuberville is in hiding." The columnist added, "[i]f a campaign won't let its candidate speak openly because he can't do so without saying dumb things that hurt his chances of winning the election, what the heck is going to happen when he's in the United States Senate?"

None of this seemed to matter too much to voters in Alabama -- Tuberville won in a landslide
Stacyhs is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 11th August 2021, 11:34 AM   #77
Donal
Illuminator
 
Donal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,380
The Democrats should nominate Saban in 2026.
__________________
SuburbanNerd A blog for making tech make sense
Donal is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 11th August 2021, 12:15 PM   #78
W.D.Clinger
Illuminator
 
W.D.Clinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,946
Originally Posted by Donal View Post
Some of those are really just ceremonial like Clint Eastwood and Kane from the WWE being "mayor".
In 1986, Clint Eastwood ran for the office of mayor in the small but wealthy town of Carmel, California. Eastwood was elected in a landslide and served a two-year term.

A couple of my friends were living in Carmel at the time, and I visited them while Eastwood was mayor. They told me he was generally regarded as a considerable improvement over his predecessor.
W.D.Clinger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 11th August 2021, 12:40 PM   #79
kevbo
Thinker
 
kevbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Rogue Valley, Oregon
Posts: 166
Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
This is the West;unique and colorful names are part of it's tradition.
In Oregon, we have Drain, Fossil, Boring, Riddle, and Talent. Bit of trivia- The sister city for Boring is Dull, Scotland.
kevbo is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 12th August 2021, 12:48 AM   #80
SteveAitch
Critical Thinker
 
SteveAitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: St Aines
Posts: 359
Originally Posted by kevbo View Post
In Oregon, we have Drain, Fossil, Boring, Riddle, and Talent. Bit of trivia- The sister city for Boring is Dull, Scotland.
More boring trivia - in the old days if you looked up 'Boring' in the Yellow Pages, it referred you to 'Civil Engineers'.
__________________
If this board is too exciting for you, try my Flickr pages. Warning: may cause narcolepsy!

Some people call me 'strange'. I prefer 'unconventional'. But I'm willing to compromise and accept 'eccentric'...
SteveAitch is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Reply

International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:35 PM.
Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum began as part of the James Randi Education Foundation (JREF). However, the forum now exists as
an independent entity with no affiliation with or endorsement by the JREF, including the section in reference to "JREF" topics.

Disclaimer: Messages posted in the Forum are solely the opinion of their authors.