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Old 14th September 2021, 05:56 AM   #361
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There you go again… vague nebulous statements. You should take up astrology as a profession.

What, specifically, is the alleged wake up call going to be, and what is the timeframe for “soon enough”? No more hiding behind waffle.
I tell you what, this time I will only give you one link so you do not have to work too hard.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/07/audit-te...na-mail-votes/
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Old 14th September 2021, 06:05 AM   #362
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
Back in 2016 you were busy claiming the Russians had stolen the election for Trump which was why Clinton lost.
and we have indictments proving that Russia did manipulate voters, especially minorities, into not supporting Clinton.
What we don't have is Democrats claiming that Trump never was President because Clinton was secretly in charge all along.
We also don't have Democrats trying to do audits months after the results have been declared.
And we certainly don't have Democrats storming the Capitol to prevent a Trump victory from being declared.

it is astounding how little it takes to convince you that no one but you is right.
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Old 14th September 2021, 06:06 AM   #363
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
Translated, you just want to pretend to believe it does not exist.
So show it to us.

And while you're at it, please answer my previous question regarding what you think are the genders of E. coli.
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Old 14th September 2021, 06:07 AM   #364
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
I tell you what, this time I will only give you one link so you do not have to work too hard.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/07/audit-te...na-mail-votes/
Ah, Wingnut Daily. And here's a link for you:

Arizona 74000 (duckduckgo.com)

The Trump cult fantasies are ridiculous. The Arizona "audit" is a joke. Trump lost fair and square. Don't believe Trump's scam -- it's just a fundraising gig.
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Old 14th September 2021, 06:10 AM   #365
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
I tell you what, this time I will only give you one link so you do not have to work too hard.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/07/audit-te...na-mail-votes/
A website at the forefront of spreading conspiracy theories and fake news. Weren't these the guys who were leading the birther movement during the Obama years?
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Old 14th September 2021, 06:11 AM   #366
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
I tell you what, this time I will only give you one link so you do not have to work too hard.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/07/audit-te...na-mail-votes/

That's a story from July, which was subsequently shown to be incorrect. You should look for more current information.

A company that knows nothing about elections looked at the election records incorrectly. Shocking.

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Logan based his false claim on two types of early voting reports issued by Maricopa County: EV32 files and EV33 files. He claimed that EV32 files are “supposed to give a record of when a mail-in ballot is sent” and EV33 files are “supposed to give a record of when the mail-in ballot is received.”

That’s not accurate, according to Maricopa County officials, who tweeted on Friday that “the EV32 Returns & EV33 files are not the proper files to refer to for a complete accumulating of all early ballots sent and received.”

Instead, the EV32 and EV33 files are reports created for political parties to aid them in their get-out-the-vote efforts during early voting, according to Tammy Patrick, a senior adviser at the Democracy Fund and a former Maricopa County elections official. Arizona law requires county recorders to provide this data to political parties and candidates, Patrick said.
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Old 14th September 2021, 06:12 AM   #367
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They went and polled a bunch of university students who have already been programmed to believe this crap and then its gets presented as a true survey of the nation.

That's the very definition of an echo chamber.
I'm sure the irony is totally lost on you. You're just parroting whatever you're told by the echo chambers in which you immerse yourself - be it about biology, global population statistics or electoral proceedings.

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But if you want to believe that the nation really thinks this way then by all means, carry on in your delusion. Reality is going to be giving you a wake up call soon enough.
How soon? Will this wake up call take as long as the second coming of Jesus?
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Old 14th September 2021, 06:17 AM   #368
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Well you being an Englishman explains a lot. Yes you do produce the football thugs and here in America this is not normally seen.
Have you really not seen the rioting and looting by sports fans in American cities that has followed their teams winning championships? Seriously, are you being deliberately obtuse or are you genuinely that ignorant?
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Old 14th September 2021, 06:18 AM   #369
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Don't let these fly's children bother you, Traveler. Now there their they're claiming Hillary won more votes. Way back then, who could count that high? Not them! Nobody knows what it means! Battles coming. The libstards are all worked up. Just wait! We've got the flags and the guns and the patriotic! It's all right there in Gods audit's. The truth is in our hearts, and that where its going to stay!

Hell, a bot could write this stuff. Do you suppose....
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Old 14th September 2021, 06:37 AM   #370
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No one believes that Biden did win the election without massive cheating that is now being exposed.
Just because the people in your social circle think that doesn't make it universally true. If a guy in Boston says, "No one believes that the Yankees won the World Series without massive cheating", it doesn't make it true. You sound like innumerable other conspiracy theory cult members I've encountered - "Nobody believes humans walked on the moon!" "Nobody believes that the earth is a sphere!" "Nobody believes that vaccines are meant to fight viruses!" "Nobody believes that the earth isn't controlled by shape-shifting alien reptiles!" "Nobody believes that the Joos aren't planning to exterminate white people!"


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Gods judgements are already starting to fall on the nation because of all the evil being promoted in it. The only way to really get rid of the evil is to burn it out and that is exactly what will happen with the coming wars.
Is it time for the racial holy war already? Is the Apocalypse of WIlliam Luther Pierce finally upon us?

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Now go have your little conniption fit and breakdown because I mentioned God . We will watch while we wait.
You mean while you wait for the second coming of Trump?
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Old 14th September 2021, 06:39 AM   #371
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Don't let these fly's children bother you, Traveler. Now there their they're claiming Hillary won more votes. Way back then, who could count that high? Not them! Nobody knows what it means! Battles coming. The libstards are all worked up. Just wait! We've got the flags and the guns and the patriotic! It's all right there in Gods audit's. The truth is in our hearts, and that where its going to stay!

Hell, a bot could write this stuff. Do you suppose....
He's already subscribed to that bot's Twitter account.
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Old 14th September 2021, 06:54 AM   #372
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And this is a classic example of how you guys lie and cheat and hide things. It has become obvious you do this kind of thing all the time and are well practiced at it.
So what data will you accept that could change your mind?
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Old 14th September 2021, 08:36 AM   #373
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Rightwing pro-Trump news outlets have rightwing, pro-Trump views. (OAN)
Thanks, we know.

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And the same here. (Newsmax).

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Did you actually read this? This is a piss-poor excuse for journalism. Obviously dishonest, and from a questionable source.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/news-rescue/

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I fact-checked the first claim.
It failed.
I didn't bother going any further.
Did you fact-check this yourself before posting it? If not, why not?
Overall, utterly unimpressive.
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Old 14th September 2021, 08:37 AM   #374
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Well you being an Englishman explains a lot.
What exactly does my nationality explain, in your eyes?
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Old 14th September 2021, 08:38 AM   #375
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So what data will you accept that could change your mind?
To a certain extent, that implies data produced the current mindset.
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Have you really not seen the rioting and looting by sports fans in American cities that has followed their teams winning championships? Seriously, are you being deliberately obtuse or are you genuinely that ignorant?
Foster, those riots are obviously the work of Antifa, funded by the CCP through their US front company Dominion. At least that's what the kraken in my garage told me.
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Old 14th September 2021, 09:26 AM   #377
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
What exactly does my nationality explain, in your eyes?
Well, if you are going to be that way...
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He is an Englishman!
BOAT.
He is an Englishman!
For he himself has said it,
And it's greatly to his credit,
That he is an Englishman!
ALL.
That he is an Englishman!
BOAT.
For he might have been a Roosian,
A French, or Turk, or Proosian,
Or perhaps Itali-an!
ALL.
Or perhaps Itali-an!
BOAT.
But in spite of all temptations
To belong to other nations,
He remains an Englishman!
He remains an Englishman...
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Old 14th September 2021, 09:59 AM   #378
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Gods judgements are already starting to fall on the nation because of all the evil being promoted in it. The only way to really get rid of the evil is to burn it out and that is exactly what will happen with the coming wars.
One shudders to think what "evils" inspire this Turner Diaries style revenge-porn fantasy.

Brown people voting?

Gay people not being burned?

Kids learning science?

Women wearing shoes?

Interracial marriage?

The mind boggles.
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Old 14th September 2021, 10:03 AM   #379
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
What exactly does my nationality explain, in your eyes?
It explains why you must sound like Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.
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Old 14th September 2021, 10:04 AM   #380
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Foster, those riots are obviously the work of Antifa, funded by the CCP through their US front company Dominion. At least that's what the kraken in my garage told me.
We're through the looking glass, people!
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Did you actually read this? This is a piss-poor excuse for journalism. Obviously dishonest, and from a questionable source.
And, ultimately, the claim it's making is that there was a concerted effort to (a) persuade lots of people to vote for Biden and (b) help those people get their votes registered. This is, in fact, simply democracy in action. The fact that Trump supporters are outraged that the Democratic process should be used to vote him out says a lot about them, and none of it good.

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So what data will you accept that could change your mind?
That is not how this works and why there is a stalemate.

To convince the skeptics here that he is right The Traveller needs to provide reliable data, solid evidence and facts that support his argument
Similarly if the skeptics are to convince The Traveller they need to put up a video by a swivel-eyed loon ranting about God, conspiracies, foreigners while making baseless and ludicrous claims.

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So, what do we have there?

First up a news report quoting, apparently, the CEO of OAN. That's credible...

Then a de-bunked video clip of an out of context "quote".

And then a piece which mangles the meaning of the original Time article (yes, I went and read that) to make it look like it says something other than it does.

And the last one is a list of alleged issues around voting in a number of places,but I cannot check a number of the links in that list as they don't want us European types looking.

I'm sold! Anyone got a spare Brooklyn Bridge they don't want?

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Any chance you will actually address the constitutional issues? Or are you not done pissing all over it?
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So, what do we have there?

First up a news report quoting, apparently, the CEO of OAN. That's credible...

Then a de-bunked video clip of an out of context "quote".

And then a piece which mangles the meaning of the original Time article (yes, I went and read that) to make it look like it says something other than it does.

And the last one is a list of alleged issues around voting in a number of places,but I cannot check a number of the links in that list as they don't want us European types looking.

I'm sold! Anyone got a spare Brooklyn Bridge they don't want?

That second one really got me chuckling. Sounded like Larry "pull it" Silverstein. You commit the crime of the century, get away with it, then go in front of a mike and brag about it. Yeah, who couldn't believe that?
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You need to stop just saying stuff with out thinking.
Umm . . . No, it's perfect as is.

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I tell you what, this time I will only give you one link so you do not have to work too hard.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/07/audit-te...na-mail-votes/
This is now the 5th link which is reporting different things to the other 4 links provided without commentary, again on different topics also.

The only thing that's been clear so far is that you"ll accept anything from anywhere that looks like it may agree with your preconceptions.

Let me be clear - I'd read all links before responding. Their failure to paint any coherent picture is your problem, not mine.

As for the Arizona "audit", I've stated previously in this thread that it fails the test of what an audit is from the very beginning. They didn't hire auditors, their methodology was weak and made up on the fly, the controls were effectively absent, and it was performed by people who have no expertise in auditing. If I attempted to foist that approach onto my clients, I wouldn't have a job.

Again: what is your *specific* claim? What do you believe is going to happen and when?
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They went and polled a bunch of university students who have already been programmed to believe this crap and then its gets presented as a true survey of the nation.

That's the very definition of an echo chamber.

But if you want to believe that the nation really thinks this way then by all means, carry on in your delusion. Reality is going to be giving you a wake up call soon enough.
No, it's not. If you and yours could have you would have. Though extremely unlikely to succeed, Trump's best chance was before the 20th of January.

And you just have an unsophisticated understanding of how sampling works. The pollsters tell you who they talked to (generally, by age gender party affiliation), it's how they come up with the sample size and type. They're also rated on the accuracy and checked by competing polls on the same subject.

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You are not able to tell what those links are about with out going back to look.

You need to stop just saying stuff with out thinking.
I spent about 10 years traveling in and out of Africa. I've spent plenty of time thinking about coups. Trump sucks at them.
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This is now the 5th link which is reporting different things to the other 4 links provided without commentary, again on different topics also.

The only thing that's been clear so far is that you"ll accept anything from anywhere that looks like it may agree with your preconceptions.

Let me be clear - I'd read all links before responding. Their failure to paint any coherent picture is your problem, not mine.

As for the Arizona "audit", I've stated previously in this thread that it fails the test of what an audit is from the very beginning. They didn't hire auditors, their methodology was weak and made up on the fly, the controls were effectively absent, and it was performed by people who have no expertise in auditing. If I attempted to foist that approach onto my clients, I wouldn't have a job.

Again: what is your *specific* claim? What do you believe is going to happen and when?
Well, his original question was whether, as of the middle of August, it was likely that Trump would be reinstated as Prez before the end of that month. Now, a month later, and after ignoring multiple posters pointing out that a grumpy attitude about losing an election is no substitute for an actual Constitutional mechanism for making a wish come true, his claim appears to have degenerated to a childish shaking of his fist in the general direction of teh libz and some revenge-porn fantasies about hanging a few of them, and something-something is going to happen real soon to make us all real sorry. (Shrug) Nothing we haven't seen before from other bad-loser posters here.
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Well, his original question was whether, as of the middle of August, it was likely that Trump would be reinstated as Prez before the end of that month. Now, a month later, and after ignoring multiple posters pointing out that a grumpy attitude about losing an election is no substitute for an actual Constitutional mechanism for making a wish come true, his claim appears to have degenerated to a childish shaking of his fist in the general direction of teh libz and some revenge-porn fantasies about hanging a few of them, and something-something is going to happen real soon to make us all real sorry. (Shrug) Nothing we haven't seen before from other bad-loser posters here.
Dead-enders gonna dead end. Low-information trumpists first primed by propaganda from Fox news, then OANNism and Newsmax, have a credulous sunk cost that prevents any objective reality from getting in. As you note, we've seen this over and over and and OVAH!!
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A website at the forefront of spreading conspiracy theories and fake news. Weren't these the guys who were leading the birther movement during the Obama years?
And as it turned out they were correct. Even managed to find the real certificates that were photo copied to make up the fake certificate.
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And as it turned out they were correct. Even managed to find the real certificates that were photo copied to make up the fake certificate.
I heard they also got DNA samples from the bat boy found in a cave.
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And as it turned out they were correct. Even managed to find the real certificates that were photo copied to make up the fake certificate.
Gulled again!!
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And as it turned out they were correct. Even managed to find the real certificates that were photo copied to make up the fake certificate.
If you insist on living in a fantasy, can't you at least think of something less pathetic?
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And as it turned out they were correct. Even managed to find the real certificates that were photo copied to make up the fake certificate.
Where are the Americans claiming Obama wasn't born in America? All I hear that from are Trump supporters and everyone knows they're a lesser class of person. Trump supporters lack integrity and can't be trusted. Can you show me two Americans who can confirm the claims of the Trump supporters?
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I heard they also got DNA samples from the bat boy found in a cave.
It's going to be "layers in the PDF" all over again, isn't it.
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I heard they also got DNA samples from the bat boy found in a cave.
I heard that the DNA samples from Trump showed pure alien lizard.
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I heard that the DNA samples from Trump showed pure alien lizard.
Some people are saying.
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And as it turned out they were correct. Even managed to find the real certificates that were photo copied to make up the fake certificate.
It's not often that you see a post that's completely and demonstrably inaccurate. Congratulations! 2013 wants its conspiracy theory back.
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