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Old 13th September 2021, 01:44 AM   #281
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
Well now we are going for October, will he be back by October
Why would that happen? What section of law allows for such a thing?
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Old 13th September 2021, 02:06 AM   #282
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Those that cheated get hung for treason and the winner gets reinstated. Or a new election altogether after those guilty of stealing the election in a coup get hung. The law is not to be used as a tool to enable a crime.
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Old 13th September 2021, 02:12 AM   #283
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
Those that cheated get hung for treason and the winner gets reinstated. Or a new election altogether after those guilty of stealing the election in a coup get hung. The law is not to be used as a tool to enable a crime.
And there’s that wonderful Christian attitude again.
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Old 13th September 2021, 02:18 AM   #284
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Originally Posted by catsmate View Post
Please, it's not the 1930s. Try the PPS.
I think it's a James Bond reference.
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Old 13th September 2021, 02:18 AM   #285
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
Those that cheated get hung for treason and the winner gets reinstated. Or a new election altogether after those guilty of stealing the election in a coup get hung. The law is not to be used as a tool to enable a crime.
So if Trump, and his various supporters, are lying about the election results, then they should all be executed, yes?
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Old 13th September 2021, 02:19 AM   #286
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Last I heard the only proven cheating in the 2020 presidential election was by a handful of Trump supporters. Not sure what their punishment was, but I doubt they were hung.
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Originally Posted by Pixel42 View Post
,, hung.
"...hanged..."

I don't think we really need to know the answer to that one.
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Old 13th September 2021, 02:25 AM   #288
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Originally Posted by Pixel42 View Post
Last I heard the only proven cheating in the 2020 presidential election was by a handful of Trump supporters. Not sure what their punishment was, but I doubt they were hung.

No, no, no. The treason in question wasn't tampering with the counts, it was letting the wrong kinds of poors vote in the first place.
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Old 13th September 2021, 02:32 AM   #289
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
Those that cheated get hung for treason and the winner gets reinstated. Or a new election altogether after those guilty of stealing the election in a coup get hung. The law is not to be used as a tool to enable a crime.
Now you're just being silly. There was no crime, Trump just lost. We didn't pick him. Where the hell do you get off saying the person the voters didn't choose should be president? You're the one betraying your nation. You're the one talking about committing crimes. You're trying to steal our election.
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Old 13th September 2021, 02:36 AM   #290
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No, no, no. The treason in question wasn't tampering with the counts, it was letting the wrong kinds of poors vote in the first place.
Fraud is just code speak for "people of color voted". Only, I kind of think in their heads, they don't phrase it that way.
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Old 13th September 2021, 03:10 AM   #291
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Those that cheated get hung for treason and the winner gets reinstated.
So absolutely nothing is going to happen - good to know. Nobody cheated, nobody gets hanged, and Biden remains the duly-elected president for whatever that is worth.

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Or a new election altogether after those guilty of stealing the election in a coup get hung.
New presidential elections will happen in just over three years, that's for certain. Try getting your "revenge" then.

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The law is not to be used as a tool to enable a crime.
The "The rules of Monopoly are not to be used as a tool to enable someone else besides me to win at Monopoly." See how dumb that sounds? That's what you are saying here.

The law may be an ass, but it IS the law. If people obey the law, their actions are not a crime. If the outcome of someone's actions is stupid or unacceptable, change the law, but don't punish the people who followed the law. Even if they are hung.
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
Those that cheated get hung for treason and the winner gets reinstated. Or a new election altogether after those guilty of stealing the election in a coup get hung. The law is not to be used as a tool to enable a crime.
If we are hanging for treason, will trump still be president once he is hanged along side the Jan 6 attackers for inciting and encouraging treason?
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Old 13th September 2021, 04:23 AM   #293
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Trumps reinstatement will occur in x - with x defined as the month subsequent to whatever the current month happens to be.
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Trumps reinstatement will occur in x - with x defined as the month subsequent to whatever the current month happens to be.
Trump can never be reinstated, because half the time before his reinstatement must pass before he is reinstated, however short the time till his reinstatement; therefore, at any time before his reinstatement, there is always more time to pass before he can be reinstated.

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Old 13th September 2021, 05:34 AM   #295
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Trump can never be reinstated, because half the time before his reinstatement must pass before he is reinstated, however short the time till his reinstatement; therefore, at any time before his reinstatement, there is always more time to pass before he can be reinstated.

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Trump should hire that contractor from The Money Pit to run his reinstatement bid. "Two weeks!"
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Old 13th September 2021, 06:04 AM   #296
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
Those that cheated get hung for treason and the winner gets reinstated. Or a new election altogether after those guilty of stealing the election in a coup get hung. The law is not to be used as a tool to enable a crime.
Excellent! So how many Trumpettes will be hanged (note that this is the correct form) and when will Biden be (unnecessarily) reconfirmed as the winner of the 2020 election?
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
I think it's a James Bond reference.
I got that but Bond hasn't used a PPK for decades in book or film.
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"...hanged..."

I don't think we really need to know the answer to that one.
Technically it would depend on if they were alive before being.....elevated.
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Old 13th September 2021, 06:11 AM   #299
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When did I forget that I'd said it?
See, you've forgotten that as well.
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Trump can never be reinstated, because half the time before his reinstatement must pass before he is reinstated, however short the time till his reinstatement; therefore, at any time before his reinstatement, there is always more time to pass before he can be reinstated.

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Technically it would depend on if they were alive before being.....elevated.

I remember something from a long time ago, a novel I read maybe, in which a crime scene was being investigated.
"The victim was hung in the basement."
"Hanged. People are hanged. Pieces of meat are hung."
"I know. The victim was hung in the basement."
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Well now we are going for October, will he be back by October
The most reliable prediction for Trump in October is that he'll still be cheating at golf.
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See, you've forgotten that as well.
Forgotten what?

Must be getting old....
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Old 13th September 2021, 09:30 AM   #304
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Those that cheated get hung for treason and the winner gets reinstated. Or a new election altogether after those guilty of stealing the election in a coup get hung. The law is not to be used as a tool to enable a crime.
Even if 100% of everything you allege occurred, it's not treason.

Treason, as defined in the Constitution:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Nothing in there about stealing elections, or power, or whatever. It's also codifed in 18 USC 2382.

So we are back at your allegations, if true (and they are not) still doesn't get Trump in office. It gets Pelosi in, assuredly.

You still need a constitutionally (funny, how we get back to that) path that you would be wise to adhere to. If you are so willing to piss all over it, why should those you oppose respect it? If you could force Biden and Harris out, in a totally unconstitutional manner, what would stop their replacements from being ousted in a similar manner? This is why you need to back my totally unreasonable, but oddly constitutional ascension to Presidency.
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Those that cheated get hung for treason and the winner gets reinstated. Or a new election altogether after those guilty of stealing the election in a coup get hung. The law is not to be used as a tool to enable a crime.
We have to hang the idiot who voted for Clownstick (aka the Orange Liar, Orange slug, The Saffron Seditionist, Name-Caller-In-Chief, Antichrist Deceiver of Fans, Whiney the Coup... etc) using his dead mom's ballot?

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It appears the voter fraud was so NOT widespread, it was easy to catch the Clownstick's dolts voting illegally.
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Those that cheated get hung for treason and the winner gets reinstated. Or a new election altogether after those guilty of stealing the election in a coup get hung. The law is not to be used as a tool to enable a crime.
None of this is going to happen. You understand that, correct? It appears you are being manipulated by the media you consume.
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We have to hang the idiot who voted for Clownstick (aka the Orange Liar, Orange slug, The Saffron Seditionist, Name-Caller-In-Chief, Antichrist Deceiver of Fans, Whiney the Coup... etc) using his dead mom's ballot?

It appears the voter fraud was so NOT widespread, it was easy to catch the Clownstick's dolts voting illegally.
Raises an interesting question, if we assume for the same of argument that Trump played no role in the fraud, which is likely true, but gained some benefit from it, how much responsibility does Trump hold for it?

Flip the script and let's assume that there was a vast conspiracy to rig the vote BUT Biden and Harris played no role, had no finger in the process. It was all carried out by non-state actors. The dominion machines were fixed, whatever. Could they be impeached for actions taken by a third party with no connection? I doubt it. So you would have an election that was rigged, stolen, and you could prosecute the criminals, but the result would not be changed for lack of a legal mechanism.
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Hard to believe you all think this.

When Trump did a rally the crowds came out in their tens of thousands.

When Biden tried a rally the press came out in their dozens.

Its obvious who had popular support and who did not. Even before the audit. Now that the audit has been done the results just confirm the obvious.

But that's all right, you guys carry on trying to mock yourselves into believabilty. I'll just wait while you do your dance going no where.
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Hard to believe you all think this.
Right back at ya.

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When Trump did a rally the crowds came out in their tens of thousands.

When Biden tried a rally the press came out in their dozens.
On Nov 3, when it counted, 81 million good Americans came out and chose Biden.

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Its obvious who had popular support and who did not.
Yes, it was Biden by 7 million votes.

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Even before the audit. Now that the audit has been done the results just confirm the obvious.
Yes, obviously you dead-enders are obsessed with overturning the most secure election in history. Bamboo ballots . . . Bwahahahahahahahaha!!
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But that's all right, you guys carry on trying to mock yourselves into believabilty. I'll just wait while you do your dance going no where.
Time will tell?

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Hard to believe you all think this.

When Trump did a rally the crowds came out in their tens of thousands.

When Biden tried a rally the press came out in their dozens.

Its obvious who had popular support and who did not. Even before the audit. Now that the audit has been done the results just confirm the obvious.

But that's all right, you guys carry on trying to mock yourselves into believabilty. I'll just wait while you do your dance going no where.
Ever heard the saying 'Empty vessels make the most noise'?
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I don't recall Biden holding any rallies. There was a pandemic on, it would have been utterly irresponsible.
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I don't recall Biden holding any rallies. There was a pandemic on, it would have been utterly irresponsible.

Anyone who held massive rallies during a pandemic would have to be a narcissistic, ignorant clown who sees feeding his own ego as more important than the health and safety of his supporters. Who would do something like that?
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
Hard to believe you all think this.

When Trump did a rally the crowds came out in their tens of thousands.

When Biden tried a rally the press came out in their dozens.

Its obvious who had popular support and who did not. Even before the audit. Now that the audit has been done the results just confirm the obvious.

But that's all right, you guys carry on trying to mock yourselves into believabilty. I'll just wait while you do your dance going no where.
Even if we all agreed that you are right:

Can you please point me to the part in the constitution where it talks about counting the rally size? Or apparent popular support? If only we had a way to query the population.

Can you point to the methods that would be constitutionally invoked to right this wrong? It's not a long document, that I'm sure you've read. Replace Biden Harris with Trump citing the constitution. As I've stated, I've got a better chance of being installed as President that Trump does before 2024. And I'm a nobody.
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I remember something from a long time ago, a novel I read maybe, in which a crime scene was being investigated.
"The victim was hung in the basement."
"Hanged. People are hanged. Pieces of meat are hung."
"I know. The victim was hung in the basement."
Exactly.
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Well now we are going for October, will he be back by October
Is he going Trick or Treating dressed as the President?
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
Hard to believe you all think this.

When Trump did a rally the crowds came out in their tens of thousands.

When Biden tried a rally the press came out in their dozens.

Its obvious who had popular support and who did not. Even before the audit. Now that the audit has been done the results just confirm the obvious.

But that's all right, you guys carry on trying to mock yourselves into believabilty. I'll just wait while you do your dance going no where.
It's possible that rally attendance doesn't tell one about the breadth of support a candidate has.

It tells something about the number of truly dedicated supporters. Trump had a bunch of people who were genuinely devoted to showing their support. Some traveled from rally to rally, others participated in boat parades or flew Trump flags. These were passionate supporters.

But passion doesn't count in an election. A vote is a vote, so as long as the less passionate supporters for Biden turned out, their votes counted just the same as the guy with four Trump flags on his motorboat.

And it's totally true that Biden doesn't inspire passion. I can't see a Biden boat parade coming off, which honestly is good, far as I'm concerned. I think it's a bit weird to confuse a politician with a superhero or sports team, but whatever.

At the end of the day, rally goers are a poor measure of breadth of support. Polls, for all their faults, are a better way to measure support and predict who will win. And Biden's win wasn't surprising according to the polls.

The argument "But the guy who had rallies had lots of people and the guy without rallies didn't!" is a pretty crap argument that Trump really won.
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But that's all right, you guys carry on trying to mock yourselves into believabilty. I'll just wait while you do your dance going no where.
The only mocking is that of your ludicrous fantasy. Trump is far more likely to go to Jail than back to the White House.
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
Hard to believe you all think this.

When Trump did a rally the crowds came out in their tens of thousands.

When Biden tried a rally the press came out in their dozens.

Its obvious who had popular support and who did not. Even before the audit. Now that the audit has been done the results just confirm the obvious.

But that's all right, you guys carry on trying to mock yourselves into believabilty. I'll just wait while you do your dance going no where.
Tell me more about the “audit” results. Lol…..
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Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
Hard to believe you all think this.

When Trump did a rally the crowds came out in their tens of thousands.

When Biden tried a rally the press came out in their dozens.

Its obvious who had popular support and who did not. Even before the audit. Now that the audit has been done the results just confirm the obvious.

But that's all right, you guys carry on trying to mock yourselves into believabilty. I'll just wait while you do your dance going no where.
A) Rally venues aren't polling places. The vote of a rally goer counts the same as someone who doesn't look at our elections as entertainment. Yes, the press did come out Biden's events, and his voters watched from the comfort of their homes and still voted.

B) So now, that you have your little report, you may have noticed that no results have changed.

C) If you and yours had the ability to install Trump against the will of the voters, you would have by now. You lack the combat power and you lack the support of the military and security apparatus of the United States.

But please do keep telling us what's going to happen. It's kind of funny.
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I don't recall Biden holding any rallies. There was a pandemic on, it would have been utterly irresponsible.
They did some car rallies. Ironically, Trump's rallies probably cost him votes. It seems clear that the 2020 election was a referendum on Trump's handling the pandemic. Holding big super spreader events wasn't a good way to tell suburban swing voters who don't go to rallies to begin with, that you take the pandemic seriously.

The point of a rally isn't the crowd exactly, it's the earned media. Jimmy Carter famously used small ballrooms to make his events seem more crowded. He understood it's only the crowd that's in frame that matters.

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