[Continuation] Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness' say psychiatry experts at Yale... Pt 3 - Page 50

dann · 20th October 2021, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Even in Powell's death, Trump can't help but make it all about himself.

As for his question as to whether he'll be treated thusly by the media, let's just hope we have an answer to that soon. Real soon.

Don't disappoint me like this! Powell!

dann · 20th October 2021, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by kevbo

I posted this in another thread, but it fits here also.

I never wanted Trump to die while in office, because I didn't want him to be martyred. Now, I could care less if the big city bus of life ran him down. Just sayin'.

I do like the suggestion above/or in another tread of maybe drafting hypothetical obituaries for him, and leaking them to social media. Anything that still brings him pain, brings me joy. I am probably not a nice person anymore.

It's the unfortunate reaction you get to a narcissist who is trying to elevate himself by putting everybody else down (and by wearing elevator shoes). You begin to pay attention to and comment on all the little things about him that don't really matter and shouldn't concern you: his (lack of) hair, his big ass, his spelling, his elevator shoes ...

Stacyhs · 20th October 2021, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by dann

Don't disappoint me like this! Powell!

Sorry, Dann! Mea culpa.

dann · 20th October 2021, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

Number 11 - make annoying Youtube videos about how they are smarter than narcissists....

She may give you that impression by letting the photo of herself dominate the presentation of the YouTube video instead of having a photo that somehow illustrates the theme she is talking about. It also doesn't help that she is trying to sell her services.
I have seen a couple of YouTube videos with cartoon illustrations that make you think of Trump but not enough for him to be able to sue* them!

But I have seen much worse. What she has to say about narcissists and narcissism is OK, and it can't be reduced to, 'I am smarter than narcissists'.

*ETA: I am surprised that it is possible to publish a list like this one including contemporaries:

Quote:

Table of Contents
1. What is Narcissism?
1.1 Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)
2. Famous Narcissists
Joan Crawford
Kanye West
Kim Kardashian
Mariah Carey
Madonna
Donald Trump
Jim Jones
Adolf Hitler
Famous Narcissists: Depression Alliance’s Top 8 (ThriveTalk, April 8, 2018)

I don't know enough about most of them to decide if it's true or not.

Ladewig · 20th October 2021, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by dann

*ETA: I am surprised that it is possible to publish a list like this one including contemporaries:

Quote:

Table of Contents
1. What is Narcissism?
1.1 Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)
2. Famous Narcissists
Joan Crawford
Kanye West
Kim Kardashian
Mariah Carey
Madonna
Donald Trump

Imma let you finish. But we need to say Donald “MeMeMeMe” Trump needs to be first on the list

Quote:

Jim Jones
Adolf Hitler
Famous Narcissists: Depression Alliance’s Top 8 (ThriveTalk, April 8, 2018)

Quote:

I don't know enough about most of them to decide if it's true or not.

carlitos · 20th October 2021, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Isn't she violating Twitter rules or something posting a banned user's stuff on their behalf?

https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-an...es/ban-evasion

This tiny forum has better rule enforcement than Twitter. She'd never get away with that here. My guess is that he's a public figure, and he puts the nonsense out in "press releases" on his letterhead. Which really redefines downwards the concept of a press release.

Norman Alexander · 20th October 2021, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

This tiny forum has better rule enforcement than Twitter. She'd never get away with that here. My guess is that he's a public figure, and he puts the nonsense out in "press releases" on his letterhead. Which really redefines downwards the concept of a press release.

TBH, it should not matter if it was Donny, or Nigel Farage or Vladimir Putin she was acting as a channel for if they have been banned from Twitter. She is violating Twitter rules and should be "managed" forthwith.

But of course she won't be. Because she is hardly alone. There are likely tens of thousands of other Twits, if not millions, doing exactly the same thing with the same content. And Twitter doesn't want to stop such a lucrative income stream.

Solitaire · 28th October 2021, 07:06 PM

I found a Twitch gaming stream with insights into Trumps psychology just
a bit after the after the discussion of Rauchian Philosophy. It even scores
a few points by going into the origins of the cotton candy quote.

Twitch Link

The Great Zaganza · 28th October 2021, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Solitaire

I found a Twitch gaming stream with insights into Trumps psychology just
a bit after the after the discussion of Rauchian Philosophy. It even scores
a few points by going into the origins of the cotton candy quote.

Twitch Link

Ditch Penn's Sunday School, go full Matt and Mattingly's Ice Cream Social.

Bob001 · 5th November 2021, 01:39 AM

Shrinks speculate on what happens if Trump wins in 2024.

Quote:

Trump's primitive emotional state make him an enormous danger to democracy, which he cannot abide. As a consequence, if he were to again become president, the end of democracy in this country would become a realistic possibility.

https://www.salon.com/2021/10/10/wha...-nothing-good/

Stacyhs · 5th November 2021, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Shrinks speculate on what happens if Trump wins in 2024.

https://www.salon.com/2021/10/10/wha...-nothing-good/

OH, NO! They haven't interviewed Trump in person so how can they possibly know he is a severely disturbed nut case? How would they possibly be able to determine that?

dann · 9th November 2021, 02:33 AM

This guy did interview him:
"Utterly Delusional" - Jonathan Karl On No. 45's Mental State After Leaving Office (The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Nov 9, 2021)

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I AGREE

Stacyhs · 9th November 2021, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by dann

This guy did interview him:
"Utterly Delusional" - Jonathan Karl On No. 45's Mental State After Leaving Office (The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Nov 9, 2021)

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

Kelly was right; they should have invoked the 25th A on Jan. 6 and Trump is utterly delusional...along with a majority of Republicans.

trustbutverify · 9th November 2021, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Shrinks speculate on what happens if Trump wins in 2024.

https://www.salon.com/2021/10/10/wha...-nothing-good/

Quote:

Trump's primitive emotional state make him an enormous danger to democracy, which he cannot abide. As a consequence, if he were to again become president, the end of democracy in this country would become a realistic possibility.

Which is exactly the point. The Trump rebellion is an anti-democratic movement. Democracy and democratic institutions are the enemy, not "elitists".

Stacyhs · 9th November 2021, 04:32 PM

Liz Cheney just said that Trump is "a dangerous and irrational man" and the GOP leaders are "willing hostages" to him.

The Great Zaganza · 9th November 2021, 11:28 PM

GOP leaders aren't hostages, they are the hostage takers.
When Trump threatened to start his own party, they threatened to cut him off of the donor mailing lists and Legal Defense Fund - Trump caved straight away.

Mojo · 10th November 2021, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Kelly was right; they should have invoked the 25th A on Jan. 6…

Which year?

Stacyhs · 10th November 2021, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by Mojo

Which year?

2018!

Mojo · 10th November 2021, 03:07 AM

I was just wondering if it could have been invoked before he was sworn in.

Lurch · 10th November 2021, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

GOP leaders aren't hostages, they are the hostage takers.
When Trump threatened to start his own party, they threatened to cut him off of the donor mailing lists and Legal Defense Fund - Trump caved straight away.

It's more complex than that. I posit that the Frankenstein is the now rabid, radicalized base. Recall how a rally crowd booed at Trump for having the temerity to suggest to think about getting vaccinated, and the orange sphincter pedaled back.

The Reich wing media machine has to cater to--even compete for--those many feverishly swiveling eyeballs, which can only have the spiraling madness perpetuate.

A beast has been unleashed upon the land. And the country as a whole is asleep while this restive monster broods and froths.

But what else can we expect in a nation where God 'n Guns are practically inseparable?

The Great Zaganza · 10th November 2021, 08:13 AM

All the TrumpFacistParty needs is someone like Tucker Carlson on their side: Fox is happy to be once again the kingmakers.

dann · 10th November 2021, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Lurch

But what else can we expect in a nation where God 'n Guns are practically inseparable?

Only when you pry them from His cold, dead hands ...?

Lurch · 10th November 2021, 12:32 PM

It ain't only the sack of rotting yams who's sick. There's a national contagion that has awakened and emboldened the credulous marks, the uneducated provincials, the deplorable evangelicals, the Nazis, the gibbering lunatics. A critical mass has eschewed reality, and is bent on a nihilistic quest to maintain that high derived from the liberating expression of communal hate. A self reinforcing ecosystem of mutual dependence between leaders and the lead, with the distinction fuzzy and the roles exchanging.

Amazing that a minority can effect such chaos. But that's the price to be paid while free speech remains a prized right for even the architects of the system's demise to exercise. And after the populace has allowed itself to become increasingly uneducated, insular, xenophobic, disenfranchised, bamboozled, fearful and willfully ignorant. All while a somnolent justice apparatus abets Fascism in its feverish plotting unhindered.

A convulsive shock is coming. And the rest of the world is going to suffer for it.

Stacyhs · 27th December 2021, 07:35 PM

I just watched a very interesting program on Trump including interviews with mental health professionals about his mental disorders and why and how he appealed to so many people. Historians compare his rise to how Mussolini was 'invited in by the ruling elite" and how they thought they could control him (think 2016 and today's GOP leadership) and with Hitler and his use of scapegoats (think immigration). They discuss how he uses the same techniques as Mussolini and Hitler in fostering a sense of victimization and fear and by removing a certain element (the scapegoat), it will make the country better and their lives better. He repeats things 3 times at rallies and gets the audience to repeat it. It then becomes fact to them. Interviews with those who know him reveal who he really is. It was made when Trump was still in office 2018) but is still relevant considering the grip he still has on the GOP. Although they focus on his control of nuclear weapons, etc., we know his real dangerousness was/is his attack on our democracy. It's fascinating and I highly recommend it.

Unfit: The Psychology of Donald Trump (about 1.5 hours)

Available on Youtube (in 7 parts) and Amazon Prime.

Stacyhs · 27th December 2021, 07:40 PM

From the documentary I recommended above:

John Gartner, Ph.D:

Quote:

I actually interviewed the last living member of the ethics committee that formed the Goldwater rule and he said these were obviously wild speculations, they weren't founded in fact, and so they embarrassed the profession because they were really idle speculations and so that was why they passed that rule. He said to me, "We never intended it to be a gag order, meaning that psychiatrists could never speak up about public figures, we just didn't want them making unfounded statements."

So much for those who play the "ethical" card re: the Goldwater Rule.

Quote:

"It's being presented that 'we' are being unethical by speaking out and warning the public, when in fact I asked this question, "To whom will history be kinder? Those who spoke up during the age when Trump rose, or those who were silent?"

Warp12 · 27th December 2021, 08:33 PM

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20th October 2021, 12:00 AM	#1961
dann Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 16,687	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Even in Powell's death, Trump can't help but make it all about himself. As for his question as to whether he'll be treated thusly by the media, let's just hope we have an answer to that soon. Real soon. Don't disappoint me like this! Powell!
	__________________ /dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx

20th October 2021, 12:05 AM	#1962
dann Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 16,687	Originally Posted by kevbo I posted this in another thread, but it fits here also. I never wanted Trump to die while in office, because I didn't want him to be martyred. Now, I could care less if the big city bus of life ran him down. Just sayin'. I do like the suggestion above/or in another tread of maybe drafting hypothetical obituaries for him, and leaking them to social media. Anything that still brings him pain, brings me joy. I am probably not a nice person anymore. It's the unfortunate reaction you get to a narcissist who is trying to elevate himself by putting everybody else down (and by wearing elevator shoes). You begin to pay attention to and comment on all the little things about him that don't really matter and shouldn't concern you: his (lack of) hair, his big ass, his spelling, his elevator shoes ...
	__________________ /dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx

20th October 2021, 05:35 AM	#1964
dann Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 16,687	Originally Posted by Darat Number 11 - make annoying Youtube videos about how they are smarter than narcissists.... She may give you that impression by letting the photo of herself dominate the presentation of the YouTube video instead of having a photo that somehow illustrates the theme she is talking about. It also doesn't help that she is trying to sell her services. I have seen a couple of YouTube videos with cartoon illustrations that make you think of Trump but not enough for him to be able to sue* them! But I have seen much worse. What she has to say about narcissists and narcissism is OK, and it can't be reduced to, 'I am smarter than narcissists'. ETA: I am surprised that it is possible to publish a list like this one including contemporaries: Quote: Table of Contents 1. What is Narcissism? 1.1 Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) 2. Famous Narcissists Joan Crawford Kanye West Kim Kardashian Mariah Carey Madonna Donald Trump Jim Jones Adolf Hitler Famous Narcissists: Depression Alliance’s Top 8* (ThriveTalk, April 8, 2018) I don't know enough about most of them to decide if it's true or not.
	__________________ /dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx Last edited by dann; 20th October 2021 at 05:44 AM.

20th October 2021, 06:07 AM	#1965
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,516	Originally Posted by dann *ETA: I am surprised that it is possible to publish a list like this one including contemporaries: Quote: Table of Contents 1. What is Narcissism? 1.1 Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) 2. Famous Narcissists Joan Crawford Kanye West Kim Kardashian Mariah Carey Madonna Donald Trump Imma let you finish. But we need to say Donald “MeMeMeMe” Trump needs to be first on the list Quote: Quote: Jim Jones Adolf Hitler Famous Narcissists: Depression Alliance’s Top 8 (ThriveTalk, April 8, 2018) Quote: I don't know enough about most of them to decide if it's true or not.
	__________________ I lost an avatar bet to Doghouse Reilly. Last edited by Ladewig; 20th October 2021 at 06:11 AM.

20th October 2021, 02:37 PM	#1967
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 11,926	Originally Posted by carlitos This tiny forum has better rule enforcement than Twitter. She'd never get away with that here. My guess is that he's a public figure, and he puts the nonsense out in "press releases" on his letterhead. Which really redefines downwards the concept of a press release. TBH, it should not matter if it was Donny, or Nigel Farage or Vladimir Putin she was acting as a channel for if they have been banned from Twitter. She is violating Twitter rules and should be "managed" forthwith. But of course she won't be. Because she is hardly alone. There are likely tens of thousands of other Twits, if not millions, doing exactly the same thing with the same content. And Twitter doesn't want to stop such a lucrative income stream.
	__________________ _{...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015}

20th October 2021, 01:03 AM	#1963
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,888	Originally Posted by dann Don't disappoint me like this! Powell! Sorry, Dann! Mea culpa.

20th October 2021, 08:13 AM	#1966
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA! USA! Posts: 24,384	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Isn't she violating Twitter rules or something posting a banned user's stuff on their behalf? https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-an...es/ban-evasion This tiny forum has better rule enforcement than Twitter. She'd never get away with that here. My guess is that he's a public figure, and he puts the nonsense out in "press releases" on his letterhead. Which really redefines downwards the concept of a press release.

28th October 2021, 07:06 PM	#1968
Solitaire Neoclinus blanchardi Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,710	I found a Twitch gaming stream with insights into Trumps psychology just a bit after the after the discussion of Rauchian Philosophy. It even scores a few points by going into the origins of the cotton candy quote. Twitch Link
	__________________ Schrodinger's cat walks into a bar. And doesn't.

28th October 2021, 11:10 PM	#1969
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 18,282	Originally Posted by Solitaire I found a Twitch gaming stream with insights into Trumps psychology just a bit after the after the discussion of Rauchian Philosophy. It even scores a few points by going into the origins of the cotton candy quote. Twitch Link Ditch Penn's Sunday School, go full Matt and Mattingly's Ice Cream Social.
	__________________ "When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me." - Emo Philips

5th November 2021, 01:39 AM	#1970
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 15,611	Shrinks speculate on what happens if Trump wins in 2024. Quote: Trump's primitive emotional state make him an enormous danger to democracy, which he cannot abide. As a consequence, if he were to again become president, the end of democracy in this country would become a realistic possibility. https://www.salon.com/2021/10/10/wha...-nothing-good/

5th November 2021, 07:16 PM	#1971
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,888	Originally Posted by Bob001 Shrinks speculate on what happens if Trump wins in 2024. https://www.salon.com/2021/10/10/wha...-nothing-good/ OH, NO! They haven't interviewed Trump in person so how can they possibly know he is a severely disturbed nut case? How would they possibly be able to determine that?

9th November 2021, 04:09 PM	#1974
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9,672	Originally Posted by Bob001 Shrinks speculate on what happens if Trump wins in 2024. https://www.salon.com/2021/10/10/wha...-nothing-good/ Quote: Trump's primitive emotional state make him an enormous danger to democracy, which he cannot abide. As a consequence, if he were to again become president, the end of democracy in this country would become a realistic possibility. Which is exactly the point. The Trump rebellion is an anti-democratic movement. Democracy and democratic institutions are the enemy, not "elitists".
	__________________ "To me, Hitler is the greatest man who ever lived. He truly is without fault, so simple and at the same time possessed of masculine strength" -Leni Riefenstahl Wollen owns the stage

9th November 2021, 04:32 PM	#1975
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,888	Liz Cheney just said that Trump is "a dangerous and irrational man" and the GOP leaders are "willing hostages" to him.

9th November 2021, 11:28 PM	#1976
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 18,282	GOP leaders aren't hostages, they are the hostage takers. When Trump threatened to start his own party, they threatened to cut him off of the donor mailing lists and Legal Defense Fund - Trump caved straight away.
	__________________ "When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me." - Emo Philips

10th November 2021, 01:26 AM	#1977
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 36,165	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Kelly was right; they should have invoked the 25th A on Jan. 6… Which year?
	__________________ "You got to use your brain." - McKinley Morganfield "The poor mystic homeopaths feel like petted house-cats thrown at high flood on the breaking ice." - Leon Trotsky

10th November 2021, 01:33 AM	#1978
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,888	Originally Posted by Mojo Which year? 2018!

10th November 2021, 03:07 AM	#1979
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 36,165	I was just wondering if it could have been invoked before he was sworn in.
	__________________ "You got to use your brain." - McKinley Morganfield "The poor mystic homeopaths feel like petted house-cats thrown at high flood on the breaking ice." - Leon Trotsky

10th November 2021, 07:11 AM	#1980
Lurch Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,205	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza GOP leaders aren't hostages, they are the hostage takers. When Trump threatened to start his own party, they threatened to cut him off of the donor mailing lists and Legal Defense Fund - Trump caved straight away. It's more complex than that. I posit that the Frankenstein is the now rabid, radicalized base. Recall how a rally crowd booed at Trump for having the temerity to suggest to think about getting vaccinated, and the orange sphincter pedaled back. The Reich wing media machine has to cater to--even compete for--those many feverishly swiveling eyeballs, which can only have the spiraling madness perpetuate. A beast has been unleashed upon the land. And the country as a whole is asleep while this restive monster broods and froths. But what else can we expect in a nation where God 'n Guns are practically inseparable?

10th November 2021, 08:13 AM	#1981
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 18,282	All the TrumpFacistParty needs is someone like Tucker Carlson on their side: Fox is happy to be once again the kingmakers.
	__________________ "When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me." - Emo Philips

10th November 2021, 10:07 AM	#1982
dann Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 16,687	Originally Posted by Lurch But what else can we expect in a nation where God 'n Guns are practically inseparable? Only when you pry them from His cold, dead hands ...?
	__________________ /dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx

10th November 2021, 12:32 PM	#1983
Lurch Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,205	It ain't only the sack of rotting yams who's sick. There's a national contagion that has awakened and emboldened the credulous marks, the uneducated provincials, the deplorable evangelicals, the Nazis, the gibbering lunatics. A critical mass has eschewed reality, and is bent on a nihilistic quest to maintain that high derived from the liberating expression of communal hate. A self reinforcing ecosystem of mutual dependence between leaders and the lead, with the distinction fuzzy and the roles exchanging. Amazing that a minority can effect such chaos. But that's the price to be paid while free speech remains a prized right for even the architects of the system's demise to exercise. And after the populace has allowed itself to become increasingly uneducated, insular, xenophobic, disenfranchised, bamboozled, fearful and willfully ignorant. All while a somnolent justice apparatus abets Fascism in its feverish plotting unhindered. A convulsive shock is coming. And the rest of the world is going to suffer for it.

27th December 2021, 07:35 PM	#1984
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,888	I just watched a very interesting program on Trump including interviews with mental health professionals about his mental disorders and why and how he appealed to so many people. Historians compare his rise to how Mussolini was 'invited in by the ruling elite" and how they thought they could control him (think 2016 and today's GOP leadership) and with Hitler and his use of scapegoats (think immigration). They discuss how he uses the same techniques as Mussolini and Hitler in fostering a sense of victimization and fear and by removing a certain element (the scapegoat), it will make the country better and their lives better. He repeats things 3 times at rallies and gets the audience to repeat it. It then becomes fact to them. Interviews with those who know him reveal who he really is. It was made when Trump was still in office 2018) but is still relevant considering the grip he still has on the GOP. Although they focus on his control of nuclear weapons, etc., we know his real dangerousness was/is his attack on our democracy. It's fascinating and I highly recommend it. Unfit: The Psychology of Donald Trump (about 1.5 hours) Available on Youtube (in 7 parts) and Amazon Prime.

27th December 2021, 07:40 PM	#1985
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 25,888	From the documentary I recommended above: John Gartner, Ph.D: Quote: I actually interviewed the last living member of the ethics committee that formed the Goldwater rule and he said these were obviously wild speculations, they weren't founded in fact, and so they embarrassed the profession because they were really idle speculations and so that was why they passed that rule. He said to me, "We never intended it to be a gag order, meaning that psychiatrists could never speak up about public figures, we just didn't want them making unfounded statements." So much for those who play the "ethical" card re: the Goldwater Rule. Quote: "It's being presented that 'we' are being unethical by speaking out and warning the public, when in fact I asked this question, "To whom will history be kinder? Those who spoke up during the age when Trump rose, or those who were silent?"

27th December 2021, 08:33 PM	#1986
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