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Just a thought
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In a few hours, Mr. Rittenhouse will appear on stage just before Dustin Lynch, who has the #1 country single in the country this week. Life is very, very weird. He's building a resume as a public speaker.
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It must actually be tough for an 18 yo to be thrust into all this. Most kids his age are chasing tail, doing schoolwork, and playing video games, and he has to mount a PR campaign, prob with an eye on hustling up enough support to fill his coffers for the inevitable civil suits. This is going to pigeonhole him as the Terminator for life, unless he mounts a counter PR tour, which again, rough on a teen.
All of which supports the moral of the story: Don't needlessly insert yourself in a position that you can only shoot your way out of. |
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To be able to exercise our right to play various games, and the social interactions there of. Would you want to prohibit Soccer? I bet more people die on Soccer fields than on gun ranges any year.
Such sports are actually part of the Olympics. No thugs have ever been shot at the Olympics, nor by Olympic shooters. |
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I know the country music fan base probably leans heavily to the right, and has a large number of gun nuts and racists.
But it seems like a really dumb idea for country music artists to bring Rittenhouse in to a concert. I doubt it will bring in any new fans, you risk alienating suburban or urban fans, and you tarnish your image (especially if Rittenhouse has more legal problems down the road) Sent from my LM-X320 using Tapatalk |
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You obviously know very few, and they happen to be outliers. In fact, unless you live in an unimaginable leftist section of the US I can’t imagine you don’t hear fantasies about people’s family being assaulted just so they can shoot somebody. I have heard such musings at least three times a day for over twenty years.
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I don't doubt that country music fans would likely be much more supportive of Rittenhouse than the general population. (I already pointed out that country music fans probably have a strong tendency to support the 'right wing'.)
But, as I suggested, I can't see his appearance attracting NEW fans. And for those concert-goers who actually wanted to listen to music, having a Rittenhouse speech seems like it would get in the way. (Like if a rock artist started a concert with "Are you ready to rock? Well, first of all we are going to discuss the supreme court nomination process.") And most country music fans supporting Rittenhouse doesn't mean that all fans will. I am sort of a semi-country music fan, and if any of the artists I listen to started exhibiting MAGAchud dependencies, it would certainly change my opinion of them, to the point I would probably stop purchasing their records. |
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They aren't "bringing him to a concert;" they are also appearing on the same stage at the "AmericaFest" douchebag convention. Kyle is a featured speaker, and then later tonight, the country artists are performing.
But, for the rest of his life, Kyle will be able to make a not-untrue statement that he once opened up for Lee Greenwood et al. |
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Ah my mistake. I assumed it was more of a standard "perform in from of thousands of fans who are there for the music" sort of thing that they were bringing Rittenhouse in on.
Of course I still think its foolish for various artist to appear at such an event, for similar reasons that I touched on earlier. (Namely you risk alienating a part of your audience.... admittedly a small part, but you may eventually want to have concerts in places other than deep-blue states.) |
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I wonder if Laura Ingrahm had the boy tell her about killing the protestors while she was taking his virginity.
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There is video of his intro at the conference. Twitter link.
https://twitter.com/az_rww/status/14...004593666?s=21 |
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I'd say he's at about minute 9 of his allotted 15.
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Kyle hugging Rep. Lauren Boebert.
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Is there anyone else here who would like to see a deep-fake Rittenhouse movie made from Michael J. Pollard footage taken from the young thug character in Bonnie and Clyde?,
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No because it would be just a tease.
What a hero! What did he do again? Bring a gun to a protest and kill some folk? My memory is fading.... |
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He's not a hero in the traditional sense in my eyes. But his actions have had the impact of one, I would wager. The Left, with these Antifa types, have been becoming increasing warped and violent over many years. It fact Leftism as it is today, maliciously carving up people into victim and oppressor groups to create ill feeling, division, gain power, drag others down, is simply a front for every anti-social, screwed up, angry nutjob, weirdo, and pyscho to outwardly claim some kind of validity to their unhinged, extremist, hate-filled existence. The **** do these vermin think they are? They they can go around and riot and beat people up and point guns at them. Attack them enmasse. Well have it. But you can no-longer be surprised if instant karma firmly strikes back and the law will back the right side in court - the victims of these despicable, delusional people. It's been on the rise for a long-time, this incredible evil from political extremist and fanatics, having their politics championed in the media, the education system, and elsewhere, which has just been emboldening them further. Kyle defending himself and that being lawful in the US, as a Brit, my love of and admiration for the US could not get any hire. A nation that still possesses a backbone when it comes to the enslaught of dangerously brainwashed, politically extreme, cognitively-stunted cretins.
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I don't understand all the "well he just wanted to kill someone" slander in this or the trial thread. When Rittenhouse was ambushed by Rosenbaum and the others, his reaction wasn't "Alright, Cleetus (I assume all rednecks in progressive imaginations name their guns Cleetus), we finally get to kill some people!"
After being ambushed, his first reaction was to GTFO towards the police line yelling "friendly, friendly, friendly". He only defended himself when he was cut off and knocked to the ground by the people attacking him. His biggest mistake was separating himself from the other people protecting the town. I wonder if that SUV that was set on fire that Rittenhouse was going to put out was deliberately set away from the others in order to draw one of the protectors alone to ambush. After all, Rittenhouse wasn't specifically threatened by Rosenbaum earlier, he threatened that he would kill anyone of them that he found alone. |
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Things that your whimsical, fact-deprived rant overlooks:
1. The right officially predominates political violence. link 2. The Republican power structure has embraced political violence during the Trump Era. 3. Unlike right-wing extremism, Antifa exists on the fringe. |
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Karl Scheisshaus continues in the news. For a brief time.
And those two guys he killed? Well, they're still dead. |
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I don't think Kyle knew what Rossenbaum's political views were. Hell, I don't know what Rossenbaum's political views were. I don't know if he even had any coherent political views. I know he was a mentally deranged violent pedophile, though, and that seems a bit more relevant to what went down.
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No kidding? Thanks for that.
He was at a BLM protest. I'd say that's a fairly good indicator. Any righty wouldn't be caught dead at a BLM march, at least not on the pro-side. You don't know **** about him at all. None of us do other than what we have read in the news. Oh, I thought we were focused on what Kyle knew. Since you specifically brought that up. I know how much you love mentioning his past. See, the reason I brought up politics is because it's clear to everyone and anyone that you, Warp12, etc. are all conservative\right-wingers. That's no mystery, it's common knowledge. Warp12 also glorified what Kyle did, as many on the right have done and are doing. Hell, he's giving keynote speeches at their ******* conferences. So what I said still stands. |
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I don't think that's a good indicator at all. Given Rosenbaum's history, I can easily imagine that it was just an opportunity for him to engage in mayhem, that he didn't care about the politics of the situation. And we know that he was shouting the n-word during the protests, which doesn't really sound like the sort of thing that white liberals concerned about the plight of black Americans should be doing at that moment.
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I'm reminded a bit of the whole Gabby Giffords shooting. When it happened, there was a knee-jerk assumption that, because Giffords was a liberal, her shooter must have been conservative. And that's how it was often reported at the start. But it quickly emerged that he was just crazy, that his ideology (if you can even describe it as such) and motives were so incoherent and detached from reality that you can't even put it on a political spectrum. Rosenbaum may not have been quite that crazy, but we've got no reason to assign him any political orientation. Again, I would have expected you to welcome a position which distances the left from a violent pedophile.
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Anyway, I don't think I've seen it posted, but even Tomi Lahren says the right shouldn't make a celeb of Rittenhouse (although she's probably arguing that to keep attention on her).
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Has anyone heard some actual content from Kyle's panel discussion at the AmericaFest? I was looking and can't find any. He was being interviewed by the execrable Jack Posobiec, and there were two others on the panel.
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I didn't find anything from the event, but this sit-down coincided, apparently:
Pete Hegseth sits down with Kyle Rittenhouse exclusively on Fox Nation
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