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Old 3rd January 2018, 10:52 AM   #1
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LOGAN PAUL suicide forest VIDEO is a HOAX

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I think that it is highly likely that LOGAN PAUL's 'Suicide forest' video is in fact a hoax.


I think it is a brilliant viral hoax, with the whole internet and mainstream media now giving him a lot of coverage over this.

If you do not know what i am talking about this is a good introduction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyihHuINXC4 (not my video) and if you watch one of the re-uploads of the original Logan Paul video you may agree with me that it seems incredibly prank like.

If you disagree with my opinion feel free to make your argument below.


(p.s. Here is his official apology video too, assuming i am right, he did well to keep a straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwZT7T-TXT0 )


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Old 3rd January 2018, 11:04 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by esspee View Post
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I think that it is highly likely that LOGAN PAUL's 'Suicide forest' video is in fact a hoax.


I think it is a brilliant viral hoax, with the whole internet and mainstream media now giving him a lot of coverage over this.

If you do not know what i am talking about this is a good introduction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyihHuINXC4 (not my video) and if you watch one of the re-uploads of the original Logan Paul video you may agree with me that it seems incredibly prank like.

If you disagree with my opinion feel free to make your argument below.


(p.s. Here is his official apology video too, assuming i am right, he did well to keep a straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwZT7T-TXT0 )


And begin another thread like your Flyboard thread???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cS5aCozhcA
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Old 3rd January 2018, 11:22 AM   #3
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no, nothing will ever be as good as that thread.

just putting some feelers out for peoples general opinions and counter arguments so that i can address such concerns and test out my position prior to publishing the video i am currently making
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Old 3rd January 2018, 11:28 AM   #4
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I think that your video claiming it to be a hoax will be a hoax.
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Old 3rd January 2018, 11:38 AM   #5
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no, nothing will ever be as good as that thread.

just putting some feelers out for peoples general opinions and counter arguments so that i can address such concerns and test out my position prior to publishing the video i am currently making
Counterarguments? Your entire "argument" is that it seems "prank like." which, is of course not an argument.

What did the police who were seen in the video say when you alerted them to your "opinion" that it was a "hoax'?
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Old 3rd January 2018, 11:41 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by esspee View Post
just putting some feelers out for peoples general opinions
My opinion is that you are a scam.
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Counterarguments? Your entire "argument" is that it seems "prank like." which, is of course not an argument.

What did the police who were seen in the video say when you alerted them to your "opinion" that it was a "hoax'?
thank you, exactly the kind of feedback i wanted.

my position is of course that the police will be actors.

or actual emergency services going to a real suicide

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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
My opinion is that you are a scam.

I was wrong about the flyboad.
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i will clear my good name and receive much commiseration kudos's when it comes out that this hanging man was a hoax all along.

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thank you, exactly the kind of feedback i wanted.

my position is of course that the police will be actors.
or actual emergency services going to a real suicide
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thank you, exactly the kind of feedback i wanted.

my position is of course that the police will be actors.

or actual emergency services going to a real suicide
You perhaps anticipated my response, but your "position" is quite irrelevant.

Until you have contacted the police, you simply wasting our time. let me know what you find out.
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My thoughts:

This seems to me to be an attention whore thread about an attention whore;
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Counterarguments? Your entire "argument" is that it seems "prank like." which, is of course not an argument.

What did the police who were seen in the video say when you alerted them to your "opinion" that it was a "hoax'?
Well, it's a half hoax, It'll be a full hoax once Guinness world record gets involved.

Espee I'm a little disappointed with this recent grab for attention.
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Old 3rd January 2018, 01:45 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by The Greater Fool View Post
My thoughts:

This seems to me to be an attention whore thread about an attention whore;
attention whoring is what makes the internet go around
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Originally Posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
Well, it's a half hoax, It'll be a full hoax once Guinness world record gets involved.

Espee I'm a little disappointed with this recent grab for attention.
not an attention grab, just want to put it down on record that i think it is a hoax.

And redeem my kudos tokens here
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.......redeem my kudos tokens here
Where did you steal those from?
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attention whoring is what makes the internet go around
For attention whores, 'tis true.
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not an attention grab, just want to put it down on record that i think it is a hoax.

And redeem my kudos tokens here
He's a youtube "star," I cannot imagine anyone would care at all if it were a hoax or not.
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Originally Posted by The Greater Fool View Post
For attention whores, 'tis true.

its mostly an entertainment platform

people need to create that entertainment
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Until you have contacted the police, you simply wasting our time. let me know what you find out.
It may not be possible to verify it...

Originally Posted by Japan Today
Masaki Ito, spokesman for the Yamanashi prefectural police, said people aren't obligated to report a body, but police were interested in talking to Paul as a suicide may be involved. But local police overseeing the forest area in Paul's video declined comment Wednesday. Japanese police generally do not comment on suicides...

https://japantoday.com/category/nati...igahara-forest
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I was wrong about the flyboad.
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i will clear my good name and receive much commiseration kudos's when it comes out that this hanging man was a hoax all along.

Your name already isn't clear good because of the Kangaroo Punch Video.
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You could contact editors of the English-language news in Japan to see if any verification is possible. Also you could try with this suicide prevention organization...

Originally Posted by Japan Times
Jiro Ito, who runs the Tokyo-based youth suicide prevention group Ova, told The Japan Times on Wednesday that Paul’s act “raises serious issues from the point of suicide prevention” and is in clear violation of the World Heath Organization guidelines on how the media should report on the issue...

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...e-suicide-spot
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My thoughts:

This seems to me to be an attention whore thread about an attention whore;
Oh, there's an attention whore alright!
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Originally Posted by esspee View Post
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I think that it is highly likely that LOGAN PAUL's 'Suicide forest' video is in fact a hoax.


I think it is a brilliant viral hoax, with the whole internet and mainstream media now giving him a lot of coverage over this.

If you do not know what i am talking about this is a good introduction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyihHuINXC4 (not my video) and if you watch one of the re-uploads of the original Logan Paul video you may agree with me that it seems incredibly prank like.

If you disagree with my opinion feel free to make your argument below.


(p.s. Here is his official apology video too, assuming i am right, he did well to keep a straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwZT7T-TXT0 )


I dunno, but his reactions in the video seem very strange.
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attention whoring is what makes the internet go around
Only for tools and fools. The intelligent pay little attention to it!!!
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Except of course places that deny that trolls can be identified - like here at ISF!!

Note, that does not refer to any identified person or to any identified/ongoing thread/thread series. But it is certainly incontrovertible fact that such exist - even here on ISF.
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Originally Posted by esspee View Post
I was wrong about the flyboad.
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i will clear my good name and receive much commiseration kudos's when it comes out that this hanging man was a hoax all along.

Who actually cares about this hanging man thread?

Note: I was aware of the flyboard thread but was completely uninterested. Saw vids on tv but just figured I have no interest in one if it works - and even less if it doesn't. Same applies to hanging man. Now, admittedly I am interested in Burning Man though!!!!!

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My thoughts:

This seems to me to be an attention whore thread about an attention whore;
Likely!!!
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He's a youtube "star," I cannot imagine anyone would care at all if it were a hoax or not.
You Tube stars are a dime a hundred!!!!
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I think that it is highly likely that LOGAN PAUL's 'Suicide forest' video is in fact a hoax.


だめです

Yawn.....out looking for attention again huh? I was born in Japan - you're being able to verify a suicide will be very difficult unless you are part of the immediate family........ and I am going to presume you are not....lol

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Yawn.....out looking for attention again huh? I was born in Japan - you're being able to verify a suicide will be very difficult unless you are part of the immediate family........ and I am going to presume you are not....lol
Logan is front page internet/youtube/social media news, and even being mentioned on terrestrial tv shows.

That is a lot of eyes.

So i do not need to do any research.

Many many others will do it, and they will reveal this hoax, if Logan Paul does not reveal it soon himself.

...and then i will redeem my kudos tokens here
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So i do not need to do any research.
Yes, you do. Start with the ones I mentioned.

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Many many others will do it, and they will reveal this hoax, if Logan Paul does not reveal it soon himself.
When will Logan reveal it? Give a date.

The Kangaroo Punch Video has still not been revealed as a hoax and that's contrary to the strategy that you said was being used - yet you still count it as a hoax.

There is way too much dishonesty and weasel behavior in your approach to these videos that you claim are fakes.
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Yes, you do. Start with the ones I mentioned.


When will Logan reveal it? Give a date.

The Kangaroo Punch Video has still not been revealed as a hoax and that's contrary to the strategy that you said was being used - yet you still count it as a hoax.

There is way too much dishonesty and weasel behavior in your approach to these videos that you claim are fakes.
thanks to this thread i have chosen th followinig approach to my video.

i can't link it coz of mods here, but it is called 'LOGAN PAUL HOAX ( suicide forest ) 16 clues.'
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Why would I want to watch a knobhead laughing at a suicide?
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Why would I want to watch a knobhead laughing at a suicide?
That's the word I was trying to think of....
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I think that it is highly likely that LOGAN PAUL's 'Suicide forest' video is in fact a hoax.


I think it is a brilliant viral hoax, with the whole internet and mainstream media now giving him a lot of coverage over this.

If you do not know what i am talking about this is a good introduction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyihHuINXC4 (not my video) and if you watch one of the re-uploads of the original Logan Paul video you may agree with me that it seems incredibly prank like.

If you disagree with my opinion feel free to make your argument below.


(p.s. Here is his official apology video too, assuming i am right, he did well to keep a straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwZT7T-TXT0 )


A Youtube prankster makes a video. Could it be a prank? He says it's not. Stay tuned.

No thank you. There's an excellent chance that it's legit. There are years when suicides in Aokigahara average one every 3 days. Someone must discover the bodies. Why not this doofus?

But why should anyone care? We have an attention whore who may or may not have made a prank video (but who makes prank videos all the time and takes full credit for their prankiness, right in the titles).
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What did the police who were seen in the video say when you alerted them to your "opinion" that it was a "hoax'?
Originally Posted by esspee View Post
my position is of course that the police will be actors.
You didn't alert the police because the people you'd reach would be actors, who have somehow hijacked the actual police's telephone line?
That's one big, expensive conspiracy right there...

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or actual emergency services going to a real suicide
No, it isn't. Your position can't be that it's clearly all a hoax, or it's not a hoax. That isn't any kind of position at all.
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