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View Poll Results: Where will Trump be two years from now?
Dead 6 5.36%
In prison 12 10.71%
Impeached 11 9.82%
Voted out 52 46.43%
Reelected 22 19.64%
Planet X 9 8.04%
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Old 4th January 2019, 08:09 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by ahhell View Post
Someone on the internet disagrees with me so....

Also wrong. A president or any other official of the federal government can be impeached for any reason the house deems, true. Then the Senate gets to decide whether that official is removed from office. In the US federal government this can be done for any reason as you suggest, rules are probably more clear in other jurisdiction but the congress could clarify what sort of behavior warrants or does not warrant impeachment via law by defining "high crimes and misdemeanors". The impeachment is still just the leveling of charges not removal from office as was suggested in the post I was responding too earlier.

Its a pedantic point, I admit. Impeachment is to removal from office as indictment is to conviction.
"Because impeachment is not about punishment,” he said. “Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office"

More of Graham's own words when he was a Senator, so its his error really. I guess I should've said its the legislative bodies prerogative to impeach and/or remove for whatever reason they deem fit (in the USA). You can actually see in my post history that I know the difference.

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Old 4th January 2019, 08:27 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by Matthew Best View Post
Ahem. Donald Trump is the President.
Yeah. I would not be surprised if these morons actually manage to give him a second term.
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Old 4th January 2019, 10:50 PM   #83
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Yeah. I would not be surprised if these morons actually manage to give him a second term.

Exactly my thoughts, though as a populist authoritarian SOB leader Trump leaves a lot to be "desired" (including wishfulthinkingy option 1).
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Old 11th January 2019, 08:49 AM   #84
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It's not about his money (well...) but his judgement. He'll pick a lawyer who doesn't have the spine to tell him the most important piece of advice "Just shut the F up..." I mean look at his current history with the lawyers, I'd hardly dexcribe them as winners
Does Fox and Friends have ads from shyster low-rent lawyers on their show? Because those guys would make bank if trump saw them.
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Old 11th January 2019, 10:43 AM   #85
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Re-elected as he his blessed with a Democratic or Democrat(I forget which is suppose to be insulting please pronounce in the manner you see fit) party that is in nearly as much disarray the Republican party.

If it looks like he can't get re-elected in the coming year or so, he'll just not run again. I think he will run and I think he will get re-elected. On the other hand, the Dems primary is shaping up to be the Spider-man III of their franchise and who knows who will rise to the top of that giant mass of candidates. I'm thinking Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom will win. If they haven't been smeared too much in the primary, then they might beat Trump. I think the primary is going to be ugly and they'll likely be painted as pretty versions of the same old Dem party by the Warrens and Cortez's which will probably depress Dem turnout in the general.

I'm probably wrong about all of that. It strikes me as unlikely that Trump will end up removed from office by the Senate or in jail unless Mueller turns something really undeniably illegal that happened during the last election. That could happen or might not, we shall see.

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Old 14th January 2019, 12:05 PM   #86
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Dead. Heart attack or stroke.

I see signs. Won't go into details.

This is not a hard position. Just a suspicion. My primary concerns are the stress level, which he seems to exacerbate by constantly being at war with reality, and his own testimony that he doesn't sleep much.
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Not dead, in prison, nor impeached - and he doesn't run. Guess it's Planet X as the only answer left.
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I said "voted out". Trump is a sedentary obese 72 year old man. With the expert health care he can afford (but most likely does not follow) he can expect to live to at least 80 I suppose.
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Originally Posted by Toontown View Post
Dead. Heart attack or stroke.

I see signs. Won't go into details.

This is not a hard position. Just a suspicion. My primary concerns are the stress level, which he seems to exacerbate by constantly being at war with reality, and his own testimony that he doesn't sleep much.
That's my vote.
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Not dead, in prison, nor impeached - and he doesn't run. Guess it's Planet X as the only answer left.
I was told that that was one of the "extremely unlikely niche possibilities" that would be considered Planet X. I voted Planet X.
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Trump frequently talks about walking away from a bad deal, I wouldn't put it past him to simply walk away from the Presidency. A backroom deal to resign in exchange for a promise he would not be prosecuted for his many crimes could happen at any time, with "ill health" as the official reason.
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Any deal Trump makes in exchange for immunity would come with an agreement that all parties won't talk about the details.
Trump will not be able to stick to that, which in turn will allow the other parties to tell the whole story.
This will bring at the very least civil lawsuits that will destroy Trump.
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Trump frequently talks about walking away from a bad deal, I wouldn't put it past him to simply walk away from the Presidency. A backroom deal to resign in exchange for a promise he would not be prosecuted for his many crimes could happen at any time, with "ill health" as the official reason.
He'd have to be right at the edge of the cliff before he'd agree to "ill health," because that in itself would indicate weakness. He'll have to be able to say that he "won" the presidency. If it goes until 2020, he'll simply say that he's kept all the promises that he made, accomplished more than anyone else in history, so he's done.

Maybe he could do that midterm? "Look, I've already done everything I promised, but it took only 2 years instead of 4! What else is there for me to do?"

oh, crap, I can totally picture that speech. And it would infuriate me, but if it got him out of office . . .
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I could see this going one of two ways. Either Trump is going to come out of this with his reputation in tatters, his finances a wreck, and the serious threat of legal troubles OR he'll open a President Trump theme park and, for the rest of his life, feed off that 88% of Republicans who think he's actually doing well.

Who am I kidding? He's totally going to open the theme park. Once a grifter, always a grifter.
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He'd have to be right at the edge of the cliff before he'd agree to "ill health," because that in itself would indicate weakness. He'll have to be able to say that he "won" the presidency. If it goes until 2020, he'll simply say that he's kept all the promises that he made, accomplished more than anyone else in history, so he's done.

Maybe he could do that midterm? "Look, I've already done everything I promised, but it took only 2 years instead of 4! What else is there for me to do?"

oh, crap, I can totally picture that speech. And it would infuriate me, but if it got him out of office . . .
Interesting theory. Could be why he's pushing so hard for the wall? His last "promise" "fufilled" so he can leave?

It'd tick me off too, but if I knew that was the case I'd build the damn wall
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I hope that the instant he steps out of office the Democratic administration extradited him to Russia, where his attempted theft of massive amounts of oligarch and Russian Mob money results in his paying a very painful, but mercifully short, price for an attempt to create a Facist state in the US.
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I also hope the same for his adult children

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Old 17th January 2019, 09:31 AM   #98
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This will bring at the very least civil lawsuits that will destroy Trump.
How do you destroy an 80 year old man in failing health who's already been president of the United States?
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How do you destroy an 80 year old man in failing health who's already been president of the United States?
Take his “wealth and prestige” away from his heirs.

Those of them that aren’t behind bars for their crimes.

So only Barron
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Take his “wealth and prestige” away from his heirs.

Those of them that aren’t behind bars for their crimes.

So only Barron
Maybe Tiffany.
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To answer the original question asked by this thread, my best most serious guess is: Russia. Trump will take one last trip on AF1 and that's where it will be to, to avoid prosecution in NY state.
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Old 17th January 2019, 10:36 AM   #102
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He'd have to be right at the edge of the cliff before he'd agree to "ill health," because that in itself would indicate weakness. He'll have to be able to say that he "won" the presidency. If it goes until 2020, he'll simply say that he's kept all the promises that he made, accomplished more than anyone else in history, so he's done.

Maybe he could do that midterm? "Look, I've already done everything I promised, but it took only 2 years instead of 4! What else is there for me to do?"
While he's in office, he is afforded a certain amount of protection. He leaves office, and it becomes much easier to charge him for crimes. Now, its possible that Pence would pardon him for federal crimes, but there are more than enough state charges that he could be brought up on.

So, his best option is to hold on to office as tightly as he can, hoping for a miracle re-election in 2020.
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Old 17th January 2019, 10:40 AM   #103
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Take his “wealth and prestige” away from his heirs.

Those of them that aren’t behind bars for their crimes.

So only Barron
And this destroys Trump how?
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And this destroys Trump how?
Agreed.

His only thoughts about his kids seem to revolve around sex with his daughter. The hot one, not the cute one.
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And this destroys Trump how?
True.
The only person to destroy Trump is Trump himself: even after having become President (by whatever means), it's not enough to make him feel like a success: unless he is the BEST President, he will have failed in his own eyes, and the imagined eyes of his father from beyond the grave.
Unless his replacement-Dad (Vlad) accepts him, he will always feel like he was destroyed.
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True.
The only person to destroy Trump is Trump himself: even after having become President (by whatever means), it's not enough to make him feel like a success: unless he is the BEST President, he will have failed in his own eyes, and the imagined eyes of his father from beyond the grave.
Unless his replacement-Dad (Vlad) accepts him, he will always feel like he was destroyed.
That is definitely a narrative.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
True.
The only person to destroy Trump is Trump himself: even after having become President (by whatever means), it's not enough to make him feel like a success: unless he is the BEST President, he will have failed in his own eyes, and the imagined eyes of his father from beyond the grave.
Unless his replacement-Dad (Vlad) accepts him, he will always feel like he was destroyed.
Nah, he'll always be the best president in his own eyes.
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"Because impeachment is not about punishment,” he said. “Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office"
If that's what impeachment is about, then Congress isn't even remotely qualified to ever do it.

I'm pretty sure impeachment is about removing a president who just isn't working out, by consensus of the legislature.
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Interesting theory. Could be why he's pushing so hard for the wall? His last "promise" "fufilled" so he can leave?

It'd tick me off too, but if I knew that was the case I'd build the damn wall
Someone mentioned today he sees the the wall as a tribute to him.
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Golfing in Crimea. Putin will give him a little fiefdom there. With additional Ukraine expansion planned.
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.... So, his best option is to hold on to office as tightly as he can, hoping for a miracle re-election in 2020.
Not so sure it will take any sort of miracle. Consider the track record and willingness of the GOP to use any tactic and any policy, wild or not, needed to gain and keep white power. Witness the Senate even now, with McConnell clearly failing in his mandated constitutional duties under Obama and Trump. Consider the "moderates" like Romney who just signaled their allegiance to Russia by lifting sanctions with no quid-pro-quo.

What are these people -- and their financial backers, with wads of cash to protect from Otasio-Cortez -- going to do for 2020? Not certain. However, it is crystal clear that Trump will double-down and be more extreme, possibly including many more shout-outs to the "second amendment people." If not a foreign adventure to garner support as Commander-in-Chief, there will be continued manufactured domestic crises. Given the large, glue-sniffing Fox News crowd, not certain the electoral college won't go Trump's way again.
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He won't be in Russia with Putin, what use will Putin have for him?
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Trump frequently talks about walking away from a bad deal, I wouldn't put it past him to simply walk away from the Presidency. A backroom deal to resign in exchange for a promise he would not be prosecuted for his many crimes could happen at any time, with "ill health" as the official reason.
That would be awesome, but I'm not sure letting him off the hook legally is for the best. Although actually Pence could do this quite easily.

IOW a Nixon situation, but I liked Gerald Ford way more than I like Pence. Being stuck with Pence might not be so great for the country either.
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I finally voted in this poll, and I voted 'Impeached'.

Considering the real possibility that Trump may now have to deal with subornation of perjury issues as well as Russia collusion issues, then I expect that within a matter of months that nearly all of the congressional Democrats and that several of the congressional Republicans will finally start to formally bring Trump down.
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He won't be in Russia with Putin, what use will Putin have for him?
Hmm, I dunno, maybe so Trump doesn't spill all the gory details? Or show future lapdogs how they'll be treated after good service?
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Old 18th January 2019, 08:34 AM   #116
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I finally voted in this poll, and I voted 'Impeached'.

Considering the real possibility that Trump may now have to deal with subornation of perjury issues as well as Russia collusion issues, then I expect that within a matter of months that nearly all of the congressional Democrats and that several of the congressional Republicans will finally start to formally bring Trump down.
Impeached, yeah thats coming. And it just takes a simple majority in the House. Removed from office takes a two thirds majority in the Senate. That means 20 GOP Senators.
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He won't be in Russia with Putin, what use will Putin have for him?
parade him around like a trophy.
He's done that with a German ex-Chancellor (Schroeder) by giving him a cushy job.
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He will be rendered down for fat to create 45,000 scented candles called 'Covfefe Breeze'.
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That's my vote.
IF he dies, that will be the official finding, regardless of what might really happen.

I'd like to see him in prison on Death Row awaiting execution for Treason.
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I just want to see him try to spell "perjury" in a Tweet.
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