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Old 30th September 2018, 06:14 PM   #361
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Old 6th October 2018, 03:37 PM   #362
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Old 6th October 2018, 06:31 PM   #363
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Originally Posted by AnonyMoose View Post
Three years have passed and Rah Rah Trumpô is still going strong.

I'm starting to think it's not Trump that's the problem afterall...

*cough*
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Old 7th October 2018, 04:30 AM   #364
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Well in the current Cavanaugh thread someone just predicted we just now passed Peak Trump, I'm sure this time it'll be correct.
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Old 8th October 2018, 10:45 AM   #365
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Doesn't he look tired?
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Old 8th October 2018, 04:38 PM   #366
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Well in the current Cavanaugh thread someone just predicted we just now passed Peak Trump, I'm sure this time it'll be correct.
No, not yet.

Not even near the peak
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Old 13th October 2018, 06:03 AM   #367
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Old 13th October 2018, 08:58 PM   #368
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Trump is a classic "never going to happen" candidate, albeit with a little more name recognition than Herman Cain, who was leading in the polls at a similar point in 2011. Fiorina is another.
In case I ever get a swelled head about my predictions in politics, please feel free to bring this up.
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Old 13th October 2018, 09:07 PM   #369
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Originally Posted by AnonyMoose View Post
Three years have passed and Rah Rah Trumpô is still going strong.

I'm starting to think it's not Trump that's the problem afterall...

*cough*
I agree with Barack Obama, who said recently that Trump was not a cause of the problem, but a symptom.


Until the cause is removed, the symptom will persist.
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
Any year now.

Six years from now.
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Old 16th October 2018, 08:45 AM   #372
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We have passed peak Trump.
But unfortunately, the required peak for re-election might be very small if the Democratic vote gets spoiled by a 3rd party candidate.
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Old 17th October 2018, 06:19 AM   #373
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I didn't read the whole thread, but here is what I think will kill the Trump phenomenon:

The Fed raising interest rates.

This will set off the next bear market and will start a stock market decline that might be more severe than 2008.

Trump has publicly claimed again and again that the current economic climate is his doing and he has tied his reputation to it.

If this decline happens before the next election, we'll be rid of Trump. If the stock market success carries beyond that date, I have some bad news for you; a second term.

Of course, he could get the US into a war, but I've been happily surprised that he seems to stick to his isolationist leanings.

But my bet is that the economy will do him in.
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Old 17th October 2018, 06:22 AM   #374
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Trump supporters will always praise him for a good economy and blame Democrats for a bad one.
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nitpick: "bear" not "bull".
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Old 17th October 2018, 06:25 AM   #376
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Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy View Post
nitpick: "bear" not "bull".
oops. Thanks, I'll correct that.
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Old 17th October 2018, 06:27 AM   #377
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Trump supporters will always praise him for a good economy and blame Democrats for a bad one.
Which is stupid. The "Economy" is a mixture of countless factors many going back decades very few of which the President has some sort of 1:1 direct control over and near none he has some sort of ability to make quick chance with. At best a President can make changes that might improve/lower the chances of the economy improving or declining at some in the mid to far future.

The President does not sit with a real time Economy Up/Down dial on his desk.
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Old 17th October 2018, 06:29 AM   #378
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Trump supporters will always praise him for a good economy and blame Democrats for a bad one.
He'll blame the Fed. A large portion of right-wing nuts thinks the Fed is a conspiracy anyway (something, something Rothschilds).

But the number of people who bought gold via Alex Jones' website is not big enough to save Trump when the market takes a 40% nosedive.
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The Fed is a Ponzi Scheme -
and Trump is upset that he doesn't get his cut.
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Originally Posted by Eddie Dane View Post
Trump has publicly claimed again and again that the current economic climate is his doing and he has tied his reputation to it.

If this decline happens before the next election, we'll be rid of Trump. If the stock market success carries beyond that date, I have some bad news for you; a second term.

"Bad news?"

Stock market success and Trump's re-election is bad news? Only if you are opposed to jobs and prosperity.
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"Bad news?"

Stock market success and Trump's re-election is bad news? Only if you are opposed to jobs and prosperity.
'Bad news' for the majority of the people on this forum.

I'd love a perpetually strong economy and lots of jobs. But the reality is that we live in a world with a boom-bust cycle with a roughly 10-year interval. The question is if the next bust starts before or after the next election.
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Old 18th October 2018, 01:11 AM   #382
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
The Fed is a Ponzi Scheme -
and Trump is upset that he doesn't get his cut.
Anyone who wants a cut from the Fed can buy shares in JP Morgan-Chase. They are the biggest stockholder in the Fed and receive a dividend.
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Old 19th October 2018, 11:36 AM   #384
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Ha ha! Ha ha. Honestly, time well spent! Totally made a salient point there. Those who think that Trump is a stain on the presidency will rethink their position now, I tell you what.

You are indeed a master debater, give or take a syllable.
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Ha ha! Ha ha. Honestly, time well spent! Totally made a salient point there. Those who think that Trump is a stain on the presidency will rethink their position now, I tell you what.

You are indeed a master debater, give or take a syllable.
Don't take away a syllable. His posts are irreducibly complex.
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Old 19th October 2018, 11:58 AM   #386
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
Ha ha! Ha ha. Honestly, time well spent! Totally made a salient point there. Those who think that Trump is a stain on the presidency will rethink their position now, I tell you what.

You are indeed a master debater, give or take a syllable.
Or... he trolled you with a two word post.
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Originally Posted by Imhotep View Post
Or... he trolled you with a two word post.
Could be. Or it could be that I recognized his usual trolling tactic and, having grown tired of it, thought that a response pointing out his shallow strategy was worth it.

I mean, you could go either way. You might think he won. You might think that I had good reason to bitch about his tedious idiocy and chose to do so.
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Trump supports physically attacking the press:f
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
Could be. Or it could be that I recognized his usual trolling tactic and, having grown tired of it, thought that a response pointing out his shallow strategy was worth it.

I mean, you could go either way. You might think he won. You might think that I had good reason to bitch about his tedious idiocy and chose to do so.
I don't think those are mutually exclusive, and I gladly accept your explanation for why you felt the need to respond.
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We have passed peak Trump.
But unfortunately, the required peak for re-election might be very small if the Democratic vote gets spoiled by a 3rd party candidate.
Nice job of covering all your bases.
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Nice job of covering all your bases.
thank you!
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the reality is that we live in a world with a boom-bust cycle with a roughly 10-year interval. The question is if the next bust starts before or after the next election.
Hopefully after. Trump isn't done wreaking conservatives' reputations yet. A second term will make the downturn worse, and make it harder for Republicans to pin it on Democrats (they will still try of course...).
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I passed a peak Trump this morning.


It was quite the logger.
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Hopefully after. Trump isn't done wreaking conservatives' reputations yet. A second term will make the downturn worse, and make it harder for Republicans to pin it on Democrats (they will still try of course...).
What "downturn"? The one you hope is coming or what?
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What "downturn"? The one you hope is coming or what?
The one all economists say is coming.
Just a normal boom and bust cycle model, as it has applied for decades, would predict a downturn ten years after the last one - which was 2008.
The Fed has to raise interest rates, which is the normal signal that the economy isn't growing organically anymore.
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What "downturn"? The one you hope is coming or what?

"I'm hoping for a crashing economy so we can get rid of Trump. Bring on the recession. Sorry if it hurts people, but rooting for a recession is a prevention measure to losing democracy."

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What "downturn"? The one you hope is coming or what?
This fantastic little film by Ray Dalio explains the boom-bust cycle (or credit cycle if you will),

Its 30 minutes, but it's worth the time.

How the economic machine works
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As of November 6, we have passed peak Trumpism, at least: 54 of the 75 GOP candidates that Trump endorsed lost, and losing the House means the MAGA legislative agenda is dead. Anyone still imagining that Trump can win in 2020 and the GOP can hold the Senate must also be imagining some unexpected change in the current vector. You can hope for that, but two things should be clear by now: Trump just can't stop Trumping, and his base is as large as it will ever be.
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