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Old 4th January 2019, 07:29 PM   #361
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Originally Posted by AnonyMoose View Post
Maybe it's time to rewrite a famous quote:

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wearing a red hat and clutching The Art of The Deal."
Spot on.
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Old 4th January 2019, 07:30 PM   #362
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
He needs people to back that crap and I don't think he has it. He can't even fill positions around him.

McConnell is a real scumbag but I think he would let Trump know such an action would be a fail. And Trump cannot make such a move without support.

I believe Trump fluctuates between believing he can and being scared ******** to actually try.
Knowing Trump, it was probably a spur-of-the-moment thing. Didn't a reporter ask him the question?

Reporter: mr. Crazy Person who loves to shock people, will you do this Crazy Thing?
Trump: oh yes! I will totally do the Crazy Thing! It will be the best Crazy Thing! I will win bigly! Just hold my beer!

I mean, it would be out of character for him to say no.
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Old 4th January 2019, 10:37 PM   #363
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At this point, this is no longer about the Wall for Trump, it's about beating the Dems.
But I doubt Republicans have the stomach to stay with Trump once the shutdown really starts to hurt.
Trump will find a way to pretend to have won once it becomes clear that he can't strong-arm Pelosi.
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Old 4th January 2019, 10:42 PM   #364
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
At this point, this is no longer about the Wall for Trump, it's about beating the Dems.
But I doubt Republicans have the stomach to stay with Trump once the shutdown really starts to hurt.
Trump will find a way to pretend to have won once it becomes clear that he can't strong-arm Pelosi.
Yeah, but it will only be a "win" in his delusional mind, and those of the rednecked, bigoted Stupidati that comprise his base.
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Old 4th January 2019, 11:02 PM   #365
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During today's meeting with congressional leaders Trump told them he does not like calling it a shutdown. He would prefer if everyone would call it a strike.

I guess he has that preference because that passes responsibility onto the affected government workers and the truth can just go **** itself.
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Old 4th January 2019, 11:10 PM   #366
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Watching 'France 24' an EU news program, they put Trump on, talk about his nonsense du jour like it is actually a world leader and not a lying toddler. I have no idea if their EU audience buys it or if they are all laughing and puking like we are here in the US... and wondering why the news media doesn't have the guts to call Trump what he is.
That's how France 24 covers everything. They work overtime to be assiduously neutral. It's now government owned and I think there would be a storming of the backsteel, virtually, if they favored one ideology over the other. They've also reported on Palin, Farage, etc... as though they have actually ever made sense.
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Old 4th January 2019, 11:53 PM   #367
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Originally Posted by Molinaro View Post
During today's meeting with congressional leaders Trump told them he does not like calling it a shutdown. He would prefer if everyone would call it a strike.

I guess he has that preference because that passes responsibility onto the affected government workers and the truth can just go **** itself.
He is a failed real estate mogul with links to mobsters. He understands the word "strike" because he knows how to repress angry strikers. A shutdown he owns is more difficult to blame on someone else.
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Old 4th January 2019, 11:55 PM   #368
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Watching 'France 24' an EU news program, they put Trump on, talk about his nonsense du jour like it is actually a world leader and not a lying toddler. I have no idea if their EU audience buys it or if they are all laughing and puking like we are here in the US... and wondering why the news media doesn't have the guts to call Trump what he is.
They are calling him what he is.He is POTUS. He was democratically elected. Incredulous as the rest of the world may be about that, we must acknowledge it and take him seriously.
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Old 5th January 2019, 12:28 AM   #369
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They are calling him what he is.He is POTUS. He was democratically elected. Incredulous as the rest of the world may be about that, we must acknowledge it and take him seriously.
No, we respect the office of POTUS. But Some dangerous, inarticulate, unintelligible, ignorant clown is currently pretending to be that person. Him we have less than zero respect for.
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Old 5th January 2019, 12:53 AM   #370
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
Is there any other rational way to parse that phrase other than using the military to seize private property by force?

He's talking about having the U.S. Army invade and occupy Americans' property without due process.
Or perhaps it's another one of his "2nd amendment" solutions?
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Old 5th January 2019, 03:22 AM   #371
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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
How the *&%$ would anyone be able to tell?
Up to now he's had some minders present. He doesn't listen to even his closest, craziest supporters.
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Old 5th January 2019, 03:46 AM   #372
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Mexican and U.S. law enforcement agencies discovered a highly sophisticated underground tunnel—featuring a rail system and solar-powered lighting—running underneath the border between Mexico and California.

https://www.newsweek.com/mexico-us-b...-train-1162022


If only there was a wall!
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Old 5th January 2019, 04:13 AM   #373
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Old 5th January 2019, 04:16 AM   #374
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He is a failed real estate mogul with links to mobsters...
Objectively, I think that is a pretty accurate description of the guy who currently occupies 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I saw the quote below in another forum and thought it very thought-provoking. How will history regard Donald Trump?
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Look at McCarthy, Wallace, they were quite popular in their day. Not anymore. History favors intelligent, kind and progressive leaders. Backwards, mean and divisive characters fall to the bottom of the list. And Trump is the worst of the lot, grossly unqualified and low class. History will scorch him.
History favors intelligent, kind and progressive leaders. Yes, it's basic human nature. Let's put Trump into the history books in 2020, America!
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Old 5th January 2019, 04:16 AM   #375
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Old 5th January 2019, 04:54 AM   #376
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His expression at that moment was positively chilling.

Did he use that odd, slightly wheezy, nasal tone of voice he uses when he’s trying to sound threatening?
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Did he use that odd, slightly wheezy, nasal tone of voice he uses when he’s trying to sound threatening?
No, he actually looked stone cold and threatening. Which is notable because he never does otherwise.
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Old 5th January 2019, 05:44 AM   #378
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That's how France 24 covers everything. They work overtime to be assiduously neutral. It's now government owned and I think there would be a storming of the backsteel, virtually, if they favored one ideology over the other. They've also reported on Palin, Farage, etc... as though they have actually ever made sense.
Pretty much. Even if it would be perfectly reasonable and accurate to describe the leader of a country as acting like a "lying toddler" it would appear, especially if it's not clear that one is speaking of ones own "personal opinion", as highly biased and overly emotional, if not outright infantile, language.

In opinion pieces European journalists are often far more blunt and critical.

For polling on how well Americas international image and soft power is affected by Trump's presidency see here: http://www.pewglobal.org/2018/10/01/...ng-key-allies/

For polling on how Americans perceive their own country's international image and standing see here: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...cted-globally/

Note that a large portion of Republican and republican leaning individuals basically believe that the US has become more respected under Trump even-though everything (except Fox News and Trump himself) suggests otherwise. Fact resistance and intense propaganda has basically created a parallel reality for these people.
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Considering how Trump has portrayed the southern border as being an incredibly emergency and essentially a mortal threat to the US I'd say his administration should've declared a national emergency long ago.

Based on their own description of the severity of the situation and their inaction in remedying it, this is yet another clear illustration of how thoroughly incompetent the Trump administrations is.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Mexican and U.S. law enforcement agencies discovered a highly sophisticated underground tunnel—featuring a rail system and solar-powered lighting—running underneath the border between Mexico and California.

https://www.newsweek.com/mexico-us-b...-train-1162022


If only there was a wall!
By the way, that tunnel ran under a wall
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Trump might get Democract support if he drops the stupid concrete wall and instead goes with the proximity sensor grid that is for most part the Israeli/Palestine border.
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By the way, that tunnel ran under a wall
Need a bigger wall then since clearly that one wont do at all.
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Need a bigger wall then since clearly that one wont do at all.
I like your thinking - you'd go far in the administration, maybe even lasting a whole week before getting fired.
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I recommend listening to it.
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Great support coming from all sides for Border Security (including Wall) on our very dangerous Southern Border. Teams negotiating this weekend! Washington Post and NBC reporting of events, including Fake sources, has been very inaccurate (to put it mildly)!

The Democrats could solve the Shutdown problem in a very short period of time. All they have to do is approve REAL Border Security (including a Wall), something which everyone, other than drug dealers, human traffickers and criminals, want very badly! This would be so easy to do!
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Great support coming from all sides for Border Security (including Wall) on our very dangerous Southern Border. Teams negotiating this weekend! Washington Post and NBC reporting of events, including Fake sources, has been very inaccurate (to put it mildly)!
he is talking about repeatedly using a term that would be blocked here due to violating Rule 10, right?
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Trump Tweets

Great support coming from all sides for Border Security (including Wall) on our very dangerous Southern Border. Teams negotiating this weekend! Washington Post and NBC reporting of events, including Fake sources, has been very inaccurate (to put it mildly)!

The Democrats could solve the Shutdown problem in a very short period of time. All they have to do is approve REAL Border Security (including a Wall), something which everyone, other than drug dealers, human traffickers and criminals, want very badly! This would be so easy to do!
Sure, Jan.
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Many people currently a part of my opposition, including President Obama & the Dems, have had campaign violations, in some cases for very large sums of money. These are civil cases. They paid a fine & settled. While no big deal, I did not commit a campaign violation!
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Many people currently a part of my opposition, including President Obama & the Dems, have had campaign violations, in some cases for very large sums of money. These are civil cases. They paid a fine & settled. While no big deal, I did not commit a campaign violation!
Sounds indistinguishable from an admission of guilt.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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Many people currently a part of my opposition, including President Obama & the Dems, have had campaign violations, in some cases for very large sums of money. These are civil cases. They paid a fine & settled. While no big deal, I did not commit a campaign violation!
He's right; US Code makes clear distinctions between violations (civil/administrative law matters) and crimes (what Trump did).
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Many people currently a part of my opposition, including President Obama & the Dems, have had campaign violations, in some cases for very large sums of money. These are civil cases. They paid a fine & settled. While no big deal, I did not commit a campaign violation!
No outright insults, but I think this is him. It's the self-contradictory stream of consciousness denial of wrongdoing. "Other people did this thing that's not really that wrong anyway that I didn't do."

I guess Mueller just interviewed someone about campaign finance and mentioned the severity of the crimes?
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For **** sake people. Give him the money and let him go and play golf for as long as he wants.
There's some logic in this since he's only spent six percent of the money from last year he got for border security.
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No outright insults, but I think this is him. It's the self-contradictory stream of consciousness denial of wrongdoing. "Other people did this thing that's not really that wrong anyway that I didn't do."

I guess Mueller just interviewed someone about campaign finance and mentioned the severity of the crimes?
With the help of an editor. The syntax isn't properly mangled.
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Do I take it from his recent comments that he is thinking of giving himself “national emergency” powers to fund his wall?
Yes. If he does that, I predict a national protest. I know I'll be out in the street and writing to my congresscritters every day.
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Old 5th January 2019, 08:30 AM   #397
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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The story in the New York Times regarding Jim Webb being considered as the next Secretary of Defense is FAKE NEWS. I’m sure he is a fine man, but I don’t know Jim, and never met him.
It's obvious that Webb served coffee at a recent meeting in the Oval Office.
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Give him his wall. The alternative is he possibly goes full retard.
No. Period.

If "full retard" means war or loosening some nukes, now it won't work He's so pissed off the military brass, if he tried that they'd tell to eff off.
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Need a bigger wall then since clearly that one wont do at all.
Nah, but they will have to drive the fence posts 50 feet into the ground.
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Hopefully, this administration will cure the Military of its knee-jerk support for Republicans.
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