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Old 4th January 2019, 09:22 PM   #161
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
What policies of hers do people here think are intelligent and workable? I'd really love to read about it.
Following up on my request that you post the specific things she said that got your undies bunched...

It's incredibly nervy for you to use the language you used to run her down, fail to cite what she said that got your undies bunched, and then you ask for evidence? Highly unimpressive.
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Old 4th January 2019, 09:25 PM   #162
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
Then why does she think the US spent over 21 trillion on the military?
She retweeted a line out of a report. A closer look shows that the number quoted actually represented something other than was first thought.

But here's a fact for you... The total spent by the US on the military since the end of WW2 through the end of 2018 is a little over $26 trillion.
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Old 4th January 2019, 09:27 PM   #163
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Manly conservative men scared out of their minds because a young brown skinned person with a vagina and opinions got voted in to congress.

This whole conservatism thing is looking pretty dang fragile.
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post
Criticizes someone for obsessively bringing Trump into their arguments:


Brings Trump into his argument with first post in the thread:



You’re a goldmine, sir drinks-a-lot. Don’t ever stop posting.


The gift that just keeps giving!!
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Old 4th January 2019, 09:40 PM   #165
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Its not hard to understand why when you look at the photographs of the two sides of the house...

Dems: Fully representative of the diversity of the American Demographic; young, middle-aged and older men and women, Blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, Native Americans. Gays, Lesbians & Trans genders.

GOP: Staid old white men with a few middle aged women and some blacks as tokens.
It was just a few years ago that I saw a group photo of the 100 member Senate, and it was 100% white men. That was a stunning realization.
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Old 4th January 2019, 09:48 PM   #166
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Yes, because supporting a candidate you agree with is just plain demented. Alternately, perhaps the people who voted for her don't agree with all her policy choices/issues but elected her because she'll shake up the system (and with that cute little butt, do an excellent job of it, amiright hurr hurr hurr) and give the political opposition conniption fits. Now where have we heard that particular justification, recently?


On social media (tweeted by bastions of the journalistic profession) they're reporting on her dancing on a rooftop and showing that she's wearing a ... a... a... blazer(OMG@!!11) Who has more readers? The Washington Times orTimmy Twitter?


You elected a business major from where? You've gotta be kidding. About time that dummy got his own cell.


The right is obsessed with her because she is one of the more prominent ships that the rising tide is bringing out. She's already got almost 2 million followers on Twitter and is going to be a pain in your conservative asses for years to come. She's cute, she's funny, she is progressive.... for a conservative, what's not to hate? This is the long game. Seventeen to twenty non-issues a year blown out of proportion with sufficient huffing and puffing in moral outrage, and they hope to have Hillaried her by 2032.


Potato potahto... The rest of the (normal) world doesn't quiver under the bed when "Socialist, OMG!" is mentioned. A whole lot of us like socialism. Ask those soybean farmers in Iowa what they think about it! As to completely stupid, may I remind you of the intellectual prowess of the Commander In Chief you so valiantly support every day. I'm gonna hazzard a guess that "smart" doesn't fit into your criteria, no does it mean what others think it does. "Smart" to the paleos means "agrees with me".


And with your credibility rating over here at Chez Foolmewunz, you thinking she's an idiot is less important than the twenty two baht decrease on passion fruit pulp I just saw at Tesco. I can make a tasty gelato with passion fruit pulp. Your opinions are funny but have not much more value than that.


Pissing off the conservatives.
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Old 4th January 2019, 09:52 PM   #167
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Originally Posted by Matthew Best View Post
A 70% top rate of tax.

You can read about it here:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...tez-70-percent
I can see the right wing pundits now.... "You You You Socialist! Just Like Nixon!"

The rich tax didn't go below 70% until Reagan and Bush had their Great Giveaway Trickle Down Summer Sale. The feds were paying down the greatest debt in history (WWII and Crazy Cold War Aftermath) and the rich were maxxed under Ike, Kennedy at 91%. The Dems used the Goldwater '64 debacle to lower that towards 70%. LBJ, Nixon, Ford and Carter at that rate. Bunch o' commies, all of 'em!
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Old 4th January 2019, 11:35 PM   #168
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Originally Posted by Molinaro View Post
She retweeted a line out of a report. A closer look shows that the number quoted actually represented something other than was first thought.

But here's a fact for you... The total spent by the US on the military since the end of WW2 through the end of 2018 is a little over $26 trillion.
Inflation adjusted? Because the cost of WW2 was 340 billion without it.

A closer look? Nearly the entire amount spent on the US military ever was missing in the last few years? It doesn't need a closer look. It is obviously stupid.

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Inflation adjusted? Because the cost of WW2 was 340 billion without it.

A closer look? Nearly the entire amount spent on the US military ever was missing in the last few years? It doesn't need a closer look. It is obviously stupid.
She quoted a report that gave the $21 trillion number as the total of all poorly documented funds transfers within the military.

She took that as indication of total spending. However, a closer look at the details of the report shows that the total is actually made up in part by, the same dollars being transferred around multiple times.

Therefore the number does not properly represent total spending. It was meant to be representative of the magnitude of the poor accounting practices in use.


The number I gave for total spending since WW2 is simply the un-adjusted total of each year's military budget for the years 1946 through 2018.
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This is evidence that the right and the GOP are obsessed with AOC and insane for thinking this would be outrageous?

Is that really something that you need evidence for? At this point, can't it simply be considered a fact?!
Has anybody said that, until now, they were in doubt about the GOP being obsessed with AOC, but now this video has convinced them that it's actually the case?
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
Has she even seen the breakfast club?

Probably, but who cares? The Breakfast Club have seen her!
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Probably, but who cares? The Breakfast Club have seen her!
Oh this is hilarious.

The stupid attempt to mock and attack her has backfired big time.
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Old 5th January 2019, 12:54 AM   #173
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He doesn't have an opinion on that
To be fair they did respond, but all they could come up with was a numerical error she made once.
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This may be the time and place to recommend a book that explains "Why Men Don't Move," Maxine Leeds Craig's Sorry I Don’t Dance (2014, Oxford Scholarship Online).
Imagine how one of the male dancers from the video would have been ridiculed if he'd gone into politics ...

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To be fair they did respond, but all they could come up with was a numerical error she made once.

What's important here is: Did she learn from her mistake or has she been trying to deny it ever since? (You know, the way you're supposed to do if you're a real manly man, the kind who deserves to be in the White House! )
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I believe this totally disqualifies her from running for President in 2020.
This and the fact that she is too young.
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Staid, fossilized brains that belittle the aspirational policies of progressives, saying how very unrealistic such pie in the sky notions, really must hark back to Kennedy's 1961 speech about going to the Moon "in this decade", and how that awesome project was indeed realized in a scant 8 years or so.

I mean, think about it. The first liquid-fueled rocket was fired by Robert Goddard in 1929, and just 4 decades later the US put men on the freaking Moon! If this monumental undertaking doesn't convince one of the possibilities to realize other great and important projects, then it's really time to just lie down and die. Like the feeble, addled, angry white men still hanging on to power.

AOC represents a generational succession, a sweeping out of the dusty crudescences that for too long have clung chigger-like to office and power, long since having gone stale in ideas and calcified in outlook. I welcome the fresh breeze brought by this eager and energetic cohort of Representatives, to waft away some of that pall of old man smell.
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Originally Posted by Molinaro View Post
She quoted a report that gave the $21 trillion number as the total of all poorly documented funds transfers within the military.

She took that as indication of total spending. However, a closer look at the details of the report shows that the total is actually made up in part by, the same dollars being transferred around multiple times.

Therefore the number does not properly represent total spending. It was meant to be representative of the magnitude of the poor accounting practices in use.


The number I gave for total spending since WW2 is simply the un-adjusted total of each year's military budget for the years 1946 through 2018.
It doesn't need a closer looks it is obvious it can't be total spending.
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^Exactly!

The Republican approach for the past decade has been to smear their most effective opponents by generating in the populace a subjective "feeling," a subconscious impression about the person. By no means does this require actual verified facts: it only needs innuendo, completely made-up lies from social media and "satire" sites, pre-existing racial or religious, prejudice, urban legends, etc.

That's the way Obama "became" a Kenyan Muslim Terrorist in the minds of so many USA voters: given his race and name it was determined by Republican and other rightwing strategists that Obama would be most vulnerable to, most easily assigned, this particular fake tag. They then subtly helped that concept to spread and embed in the public consciousness (unconsciousness) through social media contacts, through their allied mainstream media, and by creating talking points for politicians and other pundits. Sometimes it was blatant (outright claims of forged birth certificates, etc.) and sometime more subtle (Republican leaders saying things along the lines of "I don't know anything for certain, I guess we will have to see...").

Ocasio-Cortez has been "assigned" dumb by the same Republican political machinery. It is telling to me that that are beginning these attacks already: she must scare the crap out of them!

Added in edit: again the goal of the Republican strategists is to generate a overall "feel" or impression within their followers without the need for specific facts. When the name Ocasio-Cortez comes up they want their followers to reflexively think "dumb, idiot, loon, stupid, nuts, I can't believe anyone would vote for her," etc. without the person having to think-up any specific facts that actually document such beliefs. The facts, if anyone bothers to track them down, usually are made up, mis-quotes, lies, or even Trump quotes.
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And the Democrats don't do the same thing??
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I'd say they do it more insidiously, repeatedly, nastily, recklessly, and ceaselessly. Maybe my opinion is skewed because I live in the belly of the beast in the SF Bay Area.

Speaking of which, I witnessed a great example of this very thing unfolding in my local politics. Back when Gavin Newsom was running for Mayor of San Francisco, he was running against a candidate that was to his left politically named Matt Gonzales. The left in SF ensured everyone that Newsom was, of course, one step away from Hitler in his racist agenda. Then fast forward until 2018 where Newsom runs against a political opponent to his right and, of course, now that guy is literally Hitler and Newsom is a voice of repressed minorities everywhere.
Anywhere that has one party entrenched for a long time in any system is going to attract unscrupulous hacks who espouse the dominant views, just to get ahead in local politics.

However, I see no national Democrat campaign like the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" or the Birthers, to take two obvious ones.
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Oh man, I just love how AOC is triggering you right-wing USAian snowflakes!
I hope you also liked the Snopes link someone else posted upthread, which did indeed have an utterly stupid (and pretty incoherent) quote - it's just that the Washington Free Beacon had attributed a Trump quote to her.

Quote:
“I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things”:
It's also telling that the right are attributing fairly apolitical Trump quotes to people they wish to attack as evidence of stupidity.
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IF only she was getting drunk and raping people, that is the kind of youthful indiscretion that has no consequence, but DANCING!!!!!!!!!
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I think people are missing why this was so hilarious and completely took over social media for a day: because the Right is messing up and this is a huge self own.


I don't for a second think the obsession with her wasn't a plan all along. A stupid plan, as I'll get into, but a plan nonetheless. Too many disparate moving parts in the right wing opinion vomit wheel all precisely aligned to start attacking her at the same time for this to have been anything but a concerted attempt at top down propaganda. Somewhere in a smoke filled room (or more likely an incel filled chat board) it was decided that they were going to make someone the new face of the Democratic party and then watch them fall.


The only problem is that the idiots masterminding this picked Alexandra because they are misogynistic and racists. They expected her to be an easy target because she is a woman and not even a white one.


Now, I ask you, what if this had happened in reverse? Imagine if the Democrats had picked out a Republican that was young, full of energy, charismatic, good looking, had a somewhat radical but largely popular agenda, and off the charts likability then did everything they could to focus on this Republican and make them the face of their party.



Pretty dumb, huh?


Yet that is exactly the trap Republicans walked into. For almost a year now they've laser focused on her and made everyone in the country very aware of all her bountiful good qualities. If they hadn't done that we'd never even notice her. She'd just be another freshman congressional rep without much power. But, no, they went ahead with the stupid plan and watched as it hugely backfired into the country mostly falling in love with her.


Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez is not someone from wealth or political connection. She would never have been able to coordinate a better positive image public relations campaign than the Republicans have stupidly been running for her. That's why this is so fascinating and possibly the zenith of the self own.


But don't take my word for it, just yesterday on NRA TV (which is sadly a thing) two far right pundits were talking about how, ultimately, they would really like to date her because she looks "crazy fun."


When your campaign to make her look terrible ends up with the NRA saying she looks "fun" and are fantasizing about dating her your campaign has failed and failed spectacularly. And the implications are glorious because if history teaches us anything it is that the Republican party has a terrible time dealing with Democrats that are charismatic, good looking and young.


Good going guys. As a liberal I thank you.
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It was just a few years ago that I saw a group photo of the 100 member Senate, and it was 100% white men. That was a stunning realization.
Then you looked at a bad or old photo. There's been at least one woman in the Senate at all times since 1978. Multiple women at all times this century and currently 21 women serving simultaneously. It's been 100% white too many times this century but it hasn't been a "just a few" years since there was no black in the Senate. There are 3 now and two of them have been in office since 2013.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tates_Senators

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_..._States_Senate
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I think people are missing why this was so hilarious and completely took over social media for a day: because the Right is messing up and this is a huge self own.


I don't for a second think the obsession with her wasn't a plan all along. A stupid plan, as I'll get into, but a plan nonetheless. Too many disparate moving parts in the right wing opinion vomit wheel all precisely aligned to start attacking her at the same time for this to have been anything but a concerted attempt at top down propaganda. Somewhere in a smoke filled room (or more likely an incel filled chat board) it was decided that they were going to make someone the new face of the Democratic party and then watch them fall.


The only problem is that the idiots masterminding this picked Alexandra because they are misogynistic and racists. They expected her to be an easy target because she is a woman and not even a white one.


Now, I ask you, what if this had happened in reverse? Imagine if the Democrats had picked out a Republican that was young, full of energy, charismatic, good looking, had a somewhat radical but largely popular agenda, and off the charts likability then did everything they could to focus on this Republican and make them the face of their party.



Pretty dumb, huh?


Yet that is exactly the trap Republicans walked into. For almost a year now they've laser focused on her and made everyone in the country very aware of all her bountiful good qualities. If they hadn't done that we'd never even notice her. She'd just be another freshman congressional rep without much power. But, no, they went ahead with the stupid plan and watched as it hugely backfired into the country mostly falling in love with her.


Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez is not someone from wealth or political connection. She would never have been able to coordinate a better positive image public relations campaign than the Republicans have stupidly been running for her. That's why this is so fascinating and possibly the zenith of the self own.


But don't take my word for it, just yesterday on NRA TV (which is sadly a thing) two far right pundits were talking about how, ultimately, they would really like to date her because she looks "crazy fun."


When your campaign to make her look terrible ends up with the NRA saying she looks "fun" and are fantasizing about dating her your campaign has failed and failed spectacularly. And the implications are glorious because if history teaches us anything it is that the Republican party has a terrible time dealing with Democrats that are charismatic, good looking and young.


Good going guys. As a liberal I thank you.
Ah, I see why you think that's implausible.

When I think of young Republicans with energy - I think of the Alt Right, who are more than somewhat radical, and utterly unlikable.

Christopher Cantwell might be the poster boy for them.

Nice emoji of the 116th Congressional intake:

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Old 5th January 2019, 07:57 AM   #185
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Now, I ask you, what if this had happened in reverse? Imagine if the Democrats had picked out a Republican that was young, full of energy, charismatic, good looking, had a somewhat radical but largely popular agenda, and off the charts likability then did everything they could to focus on this Republican and make them the face of their party.



Pretty dumb, huh?
I don't know. I could imagine the right saying they did exactly this with Sarah Palin. The only difference was that I don't know if her agenda was all that radical for the right, but she had everything else.

Then again, I bring her up for another reason: in this thread, we've seen those criticize AOC for her college degree. As if an A- average for an International Relations degree with Economics minor at BU means you are somehow unqualified for federal politics. Meanwhile, Sarah Palin was a C+ student at Idaho with a major in Communications and Journalism, and she was VP worthy.

I can imagine the right would try to equate the attacks on AOP with the attacks on Palin, claiming they are the same thing. It's not in the least true, but they'd argue it that way.
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Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
Ah, I see why you think that's implausible.

When I think of young Republicans with energy - I think of the Alt Right, who are more than somewhat radical, and utterly unlikable.

Christopher Cantwell might be the poster boy for them.

Nice emoji of the 116th Congressional intake:

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What are the next-to-last Republican and the fourth on the second line of Dems supposed to represent?
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Old 5th January 2019, 09:55 AM   #189
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What are the next-to-last Republican and the fourth on the second line of Dems supposed to represent?
Dan Crenshaw who has an eye patch and Jesus Garcia who has a mustache.
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What are the next-to-last Republican and the fourth on the second line of Dems supposed to represent?

The monocle is apparently supposed to represent Dan Crenshaw. I don't know about the other.

ETA: I really need to refresh the page before typing.
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I think people are missing why this was so hilarious and completely took over social media for a day: because the Right is messing up and this is a huge self own.
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A Pulitzer Prize-winning dance critic weighs in:
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To whoever tweeted the video of a young dancing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, in an attempt to shame her on the day of her swearing-in as a U.S. representative: What is wrong with you?
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It doesn't need a closer looks it is obvious it can't be total spending.
Because the actual total spending is higher over a period of years? Did she specify a number of years in her tweet? Nope.

Your attempts to make this out to be anything more than it was is a complete failure.
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(1) The fact that people voted for her is beyond sick.

I think most of the negativity toward her is due to the stupid things she says, not her dancing on rooftops. (2) Most of what I see reported on her is along the lines of, "Look what stupid thing she said this week!"

She's a loon. She's an economics major from where? You've gotta be kidding. About time this dummy got her own thread.

If the right is obsessed with her it's because they can't believe a group of voters were stupid enough to elect her. It's a bit scary. (3) All they have to do is quote her to make her look completely nuts.

She's a socialist. That's enough to earn oneself some smearing in the press. But she's not just a socialist. She is, or comes across as being, completely stupid. It's almost beyond belief that anyone would vote for her.

I don't care if she dances on rooftops, sounds fine to me. I just think she's a total idiot based on pretty much everything she says.

(4) What policies of hers do people here think are intelligent and workable? I'd really love to read about it.
For future reference, I'm highlighting some key bits for you to consider and perhaps follow-up:

(1) Strong words. Yet no evidence presented.

(2) If you would post your evidence, then readers (and maybe you) could evaluate it. In particular ... (for fun, don't open this spoiler until after you reply...)
I'm interested to see if you will cite AOC's actual words, or a pundit's interpretation.
I suspect you could post things that I would agree are foolish, but that's a low bar in this day and age. <cough> Trump <cough>

(3) And yet you failed to do that.

(4) After all that, you demand evidence? WTF.

If I quote something she said that we agree is sensible (an effort I don't intend to make) will that prove anything to you? Will I win a prize?
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And right on cue, conservative media alleges a conspiracy:

Did Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s People Post The Video Of Her Dancing?
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It doesn't need a closer looks it is obvious it can't be total spending.
I don't know, Trump wrote in a letter to Gulf states leaders that "he" had spent $7 trillion in the Middle East in the past 17 years. Politifact rated that as "half true." So I'm not sure AOC's figure can be written off that carelessly. It's based on something, whether she's interpreting the figures correctly or not.
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Love her or hate her, AOC is now a media star
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Republican House members literally booed her when she voted for speaker. Of all the people who voted for Pelosi, she was the only one they booed.

And they are literally representatives of the GOP. I understand that you think posting this video isn't representative of the kinds of criticisms mainstream Republicans level at her, but it really sadly is. Literal Congressmen mocker her for wearing a suit. That is when they aren't just making up things and claiming she said them. It isn't even the first time they've criticized her in a way that shows horrendous tone-deafness and backfires.

They are supremely out of touch of average American lives and values.
I really wonder where and how the GOP was able to find so many nasty, ignorant, racist and sexist bullies to serve on one of the most powerful legislative bodies in the world. It must have taken some dedicated effort!

And again, my God how much she scares them! Given how afraid they are of her now, as a first-time elected, extremely junior Representative, can you imagine if/as she gains seniority and power? I think she is their worse nightmare of how demographics might mean the end to the old, white, rightwing male control of the legislature by the GOP.

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It was just a few years ago that I saw a group photo of the 100 member Senate, and it was 100% white men. That was a stunning realization.
The realization that the Senate hasn't been 100% male since 1978?
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She retweeted a line out of a report. A closer look shows that the number quoted actually represented something other than was first thought.
She misunderstood a report and tweeted something stupid? Maybe she's preparing for for a future presidential run.
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