[Continuation] General UK politics [2] - Page 38

The Don · Today, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by Vixen

Good luck.

Originally Posted by Darat

Good on you.

Thank you

Mrs Don is doing the heavy lifting this morning, starting to work through the visa application with the help of Google Translate. Our proposed guests are being very proactive as well which helps.

They're in a refugee centre in Warsaw which means they do seem to have some wi-fi access for emails, WhatsApp and texts which is making the process less difficult. Reportedly they have a relatively limited amount of time until they have to leave but they adamantly refused to be classified as having an immediate humanitarian need.

My job is to plot a course through the process of getting them the Universal Credit and disability benefits they may be entitled to - step one of which will be to get them a bank account. Fortunately there are still some bank branches in our local town because I think an "in person" application for an account will leave less scope for ****-ups.

....edited to add

I'll start a new thread in Community about this to avoid cluttering up this thread.

Captain_Swoop · Today, 05:04 AM

Boris on Sky news just now says "We're going to put our arms around people just as we did through the pandemic." and "no option is off the table" when it comes to supporting people during the cost of living crisis.

Apart from actually doing anything that costs any money that is.

The Don · Today, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Boris on Sky news just now says "We're going to put our arms around people just as we did through the pandemic." and "no option is off the table" when it comes to supporting people during the cost of living crisis.

Apart from actually doing anything that costs any money that is.

Given how many people died during the pandemic due to the UK government's fumbling and bungling, I'm not sure that the above statement carried the reassuring message they were intending to give.

Nessie · Today, 08:57 AM

BJ denying there was a party at no 10 on the 13th Nov 2020.

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/stat...63160827568130

Photo of BJ at a party, glass in hand on the 13th Nov 2020.

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-23/...uring-lockdown

Big fat liar.

Carrot Flower King · Today, 09:09 AM

The standards committee have to nail the lying liar who lied then lied about lying on this one.

Cummings is sticking the boot in a bit - https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ue-gray-report

Carrot Flower King · Today, 09:25 AM

Anyone else think that if BlowJob had fessed up straight away, admitted that he'd made a mistake, accepted the FPN and so avoided all the publicity and investigation and having to lie (yes, I know, it's BlowJob so he lies every time he opens his gob) and all the subsequent furore it would have been forgotten a very long time ago?

Garrison · Today, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

Anyone else think that if BlowJob had fessed up straight away, admitted that he'd made a mistake, accepted the FPN and so avoided all the publicity and investigation and having to lie (yes, I know, it's BlowJob so he lies every time he opens his gob) and all the subsequent furore it would have been forgotten a very long time ago?

Almost certainly with so much of the press on his side they would have been full of admiration for his honesty and done their best to muddy the waters with accusations about Starmer. It would all have been forgotten until the next scandal happened.

Lothian · Today, 11:20 AM

So you could get together to say goodbye to people changing jobs but not to say goodbye to people who died.

sphenisc · Today, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Lothian

So you could get together to say goodbye to people changing jobs but not to say goodbye to people who died.

No point. They can't hear you.

Captain_Swoop · Today, 12:06 PM

Downing Street are clear that the police saw this photo

How could they possibly think it didn’t break rules of a strict national lockdown?
They looked at the picture of the Prime Minister with booze in hand, waving it above his head, at a party, in strict national lockdown and decided it didn't need any action?

Apparently others at the event were fined.

GlennB · Today, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

The police looked at the picture of the Prime Minister with booze in hand, waving it above his head, at a party, in strict national lockdown and decided it didn't need any action?

They probably didn't expect the photos to be leaked, and wanted the minimum 'reasonably acceptable' fines against Johnson. Peerages and non-exec directorships are probably involved.

Captain_Swoop · Today, 12:26 PM

Paul Brand, Political Editor at ITV says

Quote:

No 10 tell me Sue Gray had photos of Lee Cain's leaving party and they believe they are very similar to the ones we've obtained.
Sue Gray passed all her evidence to the Met, which again raises the question of why police didn't fine the PM given what the pics show.

More pictures still to come out?

No wonder Boris had a meeting with Gray about her report that he then lied about, saying she asked for the meeting, not him.

Mojo · Today, 12:30 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...089d657c064b54

Quote:

Steve Baker, a Tory MP, has shared a government and NHS campaign poster urging people to obey the rules, seemingly making a pointed comment about Partygate.

The image shows a woman breathing through an oxygen mask and says: “Look into her eyes and tell her you never bend the rules.”

For some reason I’m now picturing Boris saying, “hold my beer!”

Mojo · Today, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Downing Street are clear that the police saw this photo

How could they possibly think it didn’t break rules of a strict national lockdown?
They looked at the picture of the Prime Minister with booze in hand, waving it above his head, at a party, in strict national lockdown and decided it didn't need any action?

Mind you, if that’s what this government’s business meetings look like it would explain a lot.

Lothian · Today, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Downing Street are clear that the police saw this photo

How could they possibly think it didn’t break rules of a strict national lockdown?
They looked at the picture of the Prime Minister with booze in hand, waving it above his head, at a party, in strict national lockdown and decided it didn't need any action?

Apparently others at the event were fined.

It does raise the question as to what was the criteria for a fine?
It is obviously not simply being at an illegal gathering as Johnson was at this party and the party Princess Nut Nut arranged later that night to celebrate Dom's demise.

If it was simply being at an illegal gathering he would have had more than one fine .

All I can think is the police have bought into the continuing work excuse. i.e if it is people who were working together all day who had a post work drink that was ok. It would only be the 'extra people' who arrived solely for the party who were breaking the law..

That would explain why Sunak and others were fined for turning up to Boris's suprise birthday party. Except Boris was fined for that as well.

If it was just "people not working there that day" who get fined then then he lied in Parliament when he said he was ambushed by a cake while at work and went back to work 20 mins later.
In that fining scenario he only turned up so he could be ambushed with a party.

Today, 08:57 AM	#1484
Nessie Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 13,529	BJ denying there was a party at no 10 on the 13th Nov 2020. https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/stat...63160827568130 Photo of BJ at a party, glass in hand on the 13th Nov 2020. https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-23/...uring-lockdown Big fat liar.
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Today, 10:51 AM	#1487
Garrison Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 5,777	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King Anyone else think that if BlowJob had fessed up straight away, admitted that he'd made a mistake, accepted the FPN and so avoided all the publicity and investigation and having to lie (yes, I know, it's BlowJob so he lies every time he opens his gob) and all the subsequent furore it would have been forgotten a very long time ago? Almost certainly with so much of the press on his side they would have been full of admiration for his honesty and done their best to muddy the waters with accusations about Starmer. It would all have been forgotten until the next scandal happened.
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Today, 11:34 AM	#1489
sphenisc Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,717	Originally Posted by Lothian So you could get together to say goodbye to people changing jobs but not to say goodbye to people who died. No point. They can't hear you.
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Today, 12:06 PM	#1490
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,148	Downing Street are clear that the police saw this photo How could they possibly think it didn’t break rules of a strict national lockdown? They looked at the picture of the Prime Minister with booze in hand, waving it above his head, at a party, in strict national lockdown and decided it didn't need any action? Apparently others at the event were fined.
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Today, 12:11 PM	#1491
GlennB Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Leching at tractors (in Wales) Posts: 27,837	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop The police looked at the picture of the Prime Minister with booze in hand, waving it above his head, at a party, in strict national lockdown and decided it didn't need any action? They probably didn't expect the photos to be leaked, and wanted the minimum 'reasonably acceptable' fines against Johnson. Peerages and non-exec directorships are probably involved.
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Today, 04:01 AM	#1481
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 34,167	Originally Posted by Vixen Good luck. Originally Posted by Darat Good on you. Thank you Mrs Don is doing the heavy lifting this morning, starting to work through the visa application with the help of Google Translate. Our proposed guests are being very proactive as well which helps. They're in a refugee centre in Warsaw which means they do seem to have some wi-fi access for emails, WhatsApp and texts which is making the process less difficult. Reportedly they have a relatively limited amount of time until they have to leave but they adamantly refused to be classified as having an immediate humanitarian need. My job is to plot a course through the process of getting them the Universal Credit and disability benefits they may be entitled to - step one of which will be to get them a bank account. Fortunately there are still some bank branches in our local town because I think an "in person" application for an account will leave less scope for ****-ups. ....edited to add I'll start a new thread in Community about this to avoid cluttering up this thread.

Today, 05:04 AM	#1482
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,148	Boris on Sky news just now says "We're going to put our arms around people just as we did through the pandemic." and "no option is off the table" when it comes to supporting people during the cost of living crisis. Apart from actually doing anything that costs any money that is.

Today, 05:21 AM	#1483
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 34,167	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Boris on Sky news just now says "We're going to put our arms around people just as we did through the pandemic." and "no option is off the table" when it comes to supporting people during the cost of living crisis. Apart from actually doing anything that costs any money that is. Given how many people died during the pandemic due to the UK government's fumbling and bungling, I'm not sure that the above statement carried the reassuring message they were intending to give.

Today, 09:09 AM	#1485
Carrot Flower King Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 2,382	The standards committee have to nail the lying liar who lied then lied about lying on this one. Cummings is sticking the boot in a bit - https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ue-gray-report

Today, 09:25 AM	#1486
Carrot Flower King Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 2,382	Anyone else think that if BlowJob had fessed up straight away, admitted that he'd made a mistake, accepted the FPN and so avoided all the publicity and investigation and having to lie (yes, I know, it's BlowJob so he lies every time he opens his gob) and all the subsequent furore it would have been forgotten a very long time ago?

Today, 11:20 AM	#1488
Lothian should be banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Earth, specifically the crusty bit on the outside Posts: 17,421	So you could get together to say goodbye to people changing jobs but not to say goodbye to people who died.

Today, 12:26 PM	#1492
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,148	Paul Brand, Political Editor at ITV says Quote: No 10 tell me Sue Gray had photos of Lee Cain's leaving party and they believe they are very similar to the ones we've obtained. Sue Gray passed all her evidence to the Met, which again raises the question of why police didn't fine the PM given what the pics show. More pictures still to come out? No wonder Boris had a meeting with Gray about her report that he then lied about, saying she asked for the meeting, not him.

Today, 12:30 PM	#1493
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 35,778	https://www.theguardian.com/politics...089d657c064b54 Quote: Steve Baker, a Tory MP, has shared a government and NHS campaign poster urging people to obey the rules, seemingly making a pointed comment about Partygate. The image shows a woman breathing through an oxygen mask and says: “Look into her eyes and tell her you never bend the rules.” For some reason I’m now picturing Boris saying, “hold my beer!”
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Today, 12:35 PM	#1494
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 35,778	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Downing Street are clear that the police saw this photo How could they possibly think it didn’t break rules of a strict national lockdown? They looked at the picture of the Prime Minister with booze in hand, waving it above his head, at a party, in strict national lockdown and decided it didn't need any action? Mind you, if that’s what this government’s business meetings look like it would explain a lot.
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Today, 12:39 PM	#1495
Lothian should be banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Earth, specifically the crusty bit on the outside Posts: 17,421	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Downing Street are clear that the police saw this photo How could they possibly think it didn’t break rules of a strict national lockdown? They looked at the picture of the Prime Minister with booze in hand, waving it above his head, at a party, in strict national lockdown and decided it didn't need any action? Apparently others at the event were fined. It does raise the question as to what was the criteria for a fine? It is obviously not simply being at an illegal gathering as Johnson was at this party and the party Princess Nut Nut arranged later that night to celebrate Dom's demise. If it was simply being at an illegal gathering he would have had more than one fine . All I can think is the police have bought into the continuing work excuse. i.e if it is people who were working together all day who had a post work drink that was ok. It would only be the 'extra people' who arrived solely for the party who were breaking the law.. That would explain why Sunak and others were fined for turning up to Boris's suprise birthday party. Except Boris was fined for that as well. If it was just "people not working there that day" who get fined then then he lied in Parliament when he said he was ambushed by a cake while at work and went back to work 20 mins later. In that fining scenario he only turned up so he could be ambushed with a party.
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