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Old 11th December 2011, 06:04 PM   #441
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Originally Posted by edge View Post
But you implied a lot of bad stuff didn't you?

Stop going off topic to suit your argument. I have been trying to let you

know it isn’t like you think it is.
I don't have to IMPLY, I say it like it is. If you want to read into it more then there is, go for it.

And since when are you on the topic.

You guys talk as if your so-called god is beyond understanding, and next you start to tell us about it. You don't seem to understand how much it wrong with that thinking and/or lack of thinking.

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Old 11th December 2011, 06:05 PM   #442
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But you implied a lot of bad stuff didn't you?
Yes, the god of the bible is a lot of bad stuff. Why do you support it edge, why?

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Old 11th December 2011, 06:09 PM   #443
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Again what is the point you are trying to make besides insults?
The god of the bible is an insult. It never has explained anything, nothing about it shows us how anything in reality works. It is nothing but a lazy way out of learning.

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Old 11th December 2011, 06:15 PM   #444
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It's not anything I want it to be but it is clarification on what it will be.

I have experienced both sides and one is malevolent and one is benevolent,

that is how you can tell; the encounter ends badly or absolutely holy/good,

with a good outcome with great information.
It is not a clarification, it only shows me how you think.

You have not experienced both sides, stop lying to yourself.

Your god of the bible is anything but holy, and has shown this time and time again in the bible.

Just look at the story of Adam and Eve. Two people that didn't know good from bad and then are judged as if they did. And your god of the bible makes the so-called children responsible too. That my friend is anything but holy.

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Old 11th December 2011, 06:18 PM   #445
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See people, this is what you learn from believing in a so-called god of the bible, people aren't important, only that god is.

And in my last post I posted no names.

We all have primitive brains edge and knowing this we can adjust our thinking on how and why we think like we do.

Edge "without respelling your name" why do you support such a primitive idea of what a god can be, and why do you think you aren't worthy of a much better god.

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What lies you perpetuate.

We the ability to create, to have a sense of justice, intercede when someone

is at risk from someone’s crimes, rescue, show mercy, forgive - these alone

place him far above the animals,

perhaps even the angels. Man is, surprisingly, quite Godly. Furthermore,

man has the ability to have a relationship with God. Man has the ability to

receive the Holy Spirit - God Himself.

Finally, man is destined for immortality, so where do you get that we are not

important? Where do you not see a plan for us? the whole thing is about our

salvation.
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Old 11th December 2011, 06:19 PM   #446
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Originally Posted by edge View Post
Where is yours? You love to insult, is that an example of how you have

chosen the right morals through atheism by constantly putting people down

to make yourself feel better?
Edge, you insult all the time. You are the one that thinks he has seen both sides. Please, stop insulting us.

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Old 11th December 2011, 06:21 PM   #447
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these alone place him far above the animals
Oh please edge, I'm a vet of a war, don't talk to me about being above the animals.

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Old 11th December 2011, 06:23 PM   #448
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Yes, the god of the bible is a lot of bad stuff. Why do you support it edge, why?

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You can't get that you insult me directly and God for sure.
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Old 11th December 2011, 06:24 PM   #449
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Finally, man is destined for immortality, so where do you get that we are not

important? Where do you not see a plan for us? the whole thing is about our

salvation.
So you buy into that, I feel sorry for you.

As for the salvation, that didn't happen when the church ruled Europe and/or anywhere else. I only took the rights of people away from them and made them into robots and kept us from the stars.

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Old 11th December 2011, 06:25 PM   #450
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You can't get that you insult me directly and God for sure.
I can't insult something that isn't edge, the god of the bible isn't and therefore there are no plans.

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This is what can happen when they think they know the god of the bible plans.

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HATE AND LIES.

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You can't get that you insult me directly and God for sure.
So, because you believe in this god of the bible, I can't say what I think of it. Sorry, that is not how it works.

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Anyone can say they speak for the god of the bible and/or any other god. For one thing is sure, that god will not say anything about it.

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."

Now do I have to say who said that in his book?







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You can't get that you insult me directly and God for sure.
If someone says something against god you take that as a direct, personal insult?
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Oh please edge, I'm a vet of a war, don't talk to me about being above the animals.

Paul

Oh well then we are even.
" Why do we kill people who are killing people to show that killing people is wrong?"
~Holly Near

(http://www.askgodtv.com/Ask_God/Evil_Quotes.html)

So you fell for what? The system, couldn’t you figure it out?
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Oh well then we are even.
" Why do we kill people who are killing people to show that killing people is wrong?"
~Holly Near

(http://www.askgodtv.com/Ask_God/Evil_Quotes.html)

So you fell for what? The system, couldn’t you figure it out?
What, did that shoot over your head.

People go out of their way to kill others in war and for other things. How does that make us better then animals.

And I fell for what system edge, I didn't have the right to vote in the system. It was 21 when I went in, I was 19.

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Oh well then we are even.
" Why do we kill people who are killing people to show that killing people is wrong?"
~Holly Near

(http://www.askgodtv.com/Ask_God/Evil_Quotes.html)

So you fell for what? The system, couldn’t you figure it out?


Cherry picking again Edge?

Why did you not choose this quote from the link you gave
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. ~Blaise Pascal
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God's plan......



GOD WITH US.

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Anyone can say they speak for the god of the bible and/or any other god. For one thing is sure, that god will not say anything about it.

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."

Now do I have to say who said that in his book?







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Quit whinning.
Exactly what is written... is and has been happening, so what?

You could have fought it. All you had to do was go to school...

My people seen through that; Fascism and communism and any other lie

coming down the pike.

Even he Hitler was predicted in 1909 or so and many more things.

For you to think there is no God or relationship that's your choice.

I am positive also the atheist view -point based on your kind of hate is worse

than any other, I'm not falling for any political power that has hate.

Comparing Hitlers' primitive Brain with believers is just wrong.

Your buddy started it. There is only one difference between believers and

skeptics, so don't even go there just stop with these lies in comparision you make.
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Cherry picking again Edge?

Why did you not choose this quote from the link you gave
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. ~Blaise Pascal
In bold you hit that one on the head!
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Quit whinning.
Exactly what is written... is and has been happening, so what?
Yes edge, the killing of people is OK, it was done so many times in the bible.

When the god of the bible doesn't get it's way, the killing begins. That has been it's one sure plan to fix things.............. again and again and again.

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God's plan......

http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFil...44/1069962.jpg

GOD WITH US.

Nazi Army belt buckle.

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Didn't work for them and it won't for anybody like that, didn't happen then

and probably not in the past.
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Didn't work for them and it won't for anybody like that, didn't happen then

and probably not in the past.
It doesn't matter, all sides say he is on their side, the god of the bible can't lose.

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Yes edge, the killing of people is OK, it was done so many times in the bible.

When the god of the bible doesn't get it's way, the killing begins. That has been it's one sure plan to fix things.............. again and again and again.

Paul

I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation

and mostly cultural
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It doesn't matter, all sides say he is on their side, the god of the bible can't lose.

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Fixed it. one right, one wrong.
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I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect!
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Edge, how do you know that it wasn't Satan behind the bible?
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I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect!
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Wisdom = Sophia ( σοφία greek) = Khokmah (חוכמה Hebrew) = Sabientia (latin)


All feminine nouns in all three languages.

In fact you might find that in many of the languages that have gendered nouns it is feminine.... e.g. Sabiduría in Spanish.


Also in Greek she is a Goddess.... in Agnosticism too.

In fact in the bible it is almost a goddess too...but it is definitely attributed some kind of entity-like being.

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I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation

and mostly cultural
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I thought the OT gave the proofs for Jesus?
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I thought the OT gave the proofs for Jesus?
Im also reminded of Tim Minchin's "I love Jesus" song.
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I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect!
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Edge, I called God and asked about her plans. She said "They are none of your business!". I said, "But that guy Edge says he knows them!". She laughed and said: "Edge doesn't have a clue, don't pay any attention to him".

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I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation

and mostly cultural
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Jesus himself, according to scripture, supported the O.T. 100%, as explained in this article. Edge, why do you ignore Christ's command to follow O.T. laws?

Quote:
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I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect!
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Respect has to be earned. The farrago of nonsense known as the bible has done nothing to earn my respect,
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Fixed it. one right, one wrong.
Prove a god first, go for it, you'll be the first one.

It still doesn't chance the fact that both sides said the god of the bible was on their side in the war.

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I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation

and mostly cultural.
Salvation, Jesus didn't say anything against the O.T. for one.

Also don't quote anything from the O.T. from now on and just cherry-pick the N.T.

Of course if you don't misquote the O.T., Jesus can't be your savior.

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Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous
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Old 12th December 2011, 07:21 AM   #477
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Again what is the point you are trying to make besides insults?

It's not anything I want it to be but it is clarification on what it will be.

I have experienced both sides and one is malevolent and one is benevolent,

that is how you can tell; the encounter ends badly or absolutely holy/good,

with a good outcome with great information.
So, it is the result that tells you if it's good or bad? 20/20 hindsight's not very impressive.

Gee, if I were Satan, I'd give my followers good results. That would fool them. Satan's not powerful enough to trick you with good results? What a pussy.

I, for one, like the Bible fonts on Edge's postings.

That's what Atheists need -- our own character font.
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Old 12th December 2011, 11:31 AM   #478
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Originally Posted by Mr. Scott View Post
So, it is the result that tells you if it's good or bad? 20/20 hindsight's not very impressive.

Gee, if I were Satan, I'd give my followers good results. That would fool them. Satan's not powerful enough to trick you with good results? What a pussy.

I, for one, like the Bible fonts on Edge's postings.

That's what Atheists need -- our own character font.

Hellvetica.
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I heard today that wisdom in the bible is referred to in the feminine, respect!
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Why are you playing the feminist card? The Bible unambiguously treats women as inferior to men in many, many parts we can cherry-pick. What was God's plan when He sent the serpent to tempt Eve?
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