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Old 13th December 2011, 08:14 AM   #481
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I am positive also the atheist view -point based on your kind of hate is worse

than any other, I'm not falling for any political power that has hate.
Atheists do not hate god, they simply do not believe he exists. I am an atheist and I know that god doesn't exist. There is no hate involved, as I cannot hate something that doesn't exist.
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Old 13th December 2011, 09:25 AM   #482
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Originally Posted by Multivac View Post
Atheists do not hate god, they simply do not believe he exists. I am an atheist and I know that god doesn't exist. There is no hate involved, as I cannot hate something that doesn't exist.
Same here. Believers amuse me. No hate involved, I leave that to Christians and the like.
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Old 13th December 2011, 09:28 AM   #483
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I don't follow much of what it says in the O.T. it's irrelevant to my salvation

and mostly cultural
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then shall I assume you support gay marriage?
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QUOTE=joobz;7841199]then shall I assume you support gay marriage?[/quote]

Don't assume anything.

If I don't do, it I don't support it.

Not my problem and none of my buisness.
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Atheists do not hate god, they simply do not believe he exists. I am an atheist and I know that god doesn't exist. There is no hate involved, as I cannot hate something that doesn't exist.

No maybe not but you direct it towards Christians and Christianity yes?
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Old 14th December 2011, 07:40 AM   #485
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I thought the OT gave the proofs for Jesus?
Sure it does but I'm not going to beat slaves, or stone anyone? At least not as described.
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Old 14th December 2011, 07:52 AM   #486
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Jesus himself, according to scripture, supported the O.T. 100%, as explained in this article. Edge, why do you ignore Christ's command to follow O.T. laws?
Lets see what the first few objections have to say:
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1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)
Taken from your link.


In Yellow, let me ask you what was accomplished?

And in Bold?


With common sense what did he change about the Sabbath?

Lets see how much you know or understand. I like changing the fonts but I

like this one especially
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Old 14th December 2011, 07:55 AM   #487
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Edge won't beat slaves? or stone anyone? He will use a visual inflection? Of course it's not really a question? Thus, a conclusion?

And .. "At least not as described."
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Old 14th December 2011, 08:00 AM   #488
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Prove a god first, go for it, you'll be the first one.

It still doesn't chance the fact that both sides said the god of the bible was on their side in the war.

Paul

Which one would you say was right? Which one was morally right or can you not make a judgement call with your freewill?
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Old 14th December 2011, 08:08 AM   #489
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And, lo, Jesus said, "pull my finger."
But Edge doubted and quoth, "Which one would you say was right? Which one was morally right or can you not make a judgement call with your freewill?"
Forsooth, JC didst gist him ye stink-eye; yea unto departing.
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And one last thing, in passing, I keep reading this thread as:
The Pants of God.

Pantaloons.


Carry on.
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Old 14th December 2011, 08:12 AM   #491
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Originally Posted by Mr. Scott View Post
Why are you playing the feminist card? The Bible unambiguously treats women as inferior to men in many, many parts we can cherry-pick. What was God's plan when He sent the serpent to tempt Eve?
Really was it God or humans that set those rules, the feminine plays just as

important of a role as men and they might even have a better brain for

wisdom and education? Perhaps a refining of the creation of us, (the second model)?

Read Enoch’s contribution to the creation, then get back to me.

Let me give you a hint, matter and light.
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Old 14th December 2011, 08:19 AM   #492
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And one last thing, in passing, I keep reading this thread as:
The Pants of God.

Pantaloons.


Carry on.
The comedy thread is in a different section, Donn or is it pig rabbit.
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Old 14th December 2011, 08:22 AM   #493
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The comedy thread is in a different section, Donn or is it pig rabbit.
Oh no, Angel Stabby, it's very much right here.
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Old 14th December 2011, 08:24 AM   #494
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Edge, what's with the fonts and colors lately?
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Old 14th December 2011, 08:59 AM   #495
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Edge, what's with the fonts and colors lately?
Something to do with the Coat Of Many Colours?
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Old 14th December 2011, 09:08 AM   #496
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Which one would you say was right? Which one was morally right or can you not make a judgement call with your freewill?
None would be right, so no morality is needed from that god. Because that morality is only what the person says it is when they say that they are speaking for that god, and if you think it is anything else, they have your number, same goes for the black book.

You guys never really show where having a god explains anything. Now with E=MC², for just one exsample, I can do something with. But with your idea of a god, I can only learn to hate anyone who's god is different or has no god at all, and at the same time you tell us it loves us thru gritted teeth.

You guys have a very funny idea of what freewill should be. For you it free to be punished for not choosing right. Which isn't freewill at all, it is only another type of slavery to a god that can be anything you what it to be. For not once from the sky do we hear, "YOU GUYS GOT IT WRONG and/or RIGHT", seems your god's voice can only be heard in someone head, how convenient.

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Old 14th December 2011, 09:11 AM   #497
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Really was it God or humans that set those rules
Prove a god first and then we can go on from there.

But has for rules to have a society, it has really only been humans all the time.

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Edge, what's with the fonts and colors lately?
To make it look like he's put some thought into his replies
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To make it look like he's put some thought into his replies
That'll be the day.
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Lets see what the first few objections have to say:Taken from your link.
In Yellow, let me ask you what was accomplished?
And in Bold?
With common sense what did he change about the Sabbath?
Lets see how much you know or understand. I like changing the fonts but I
like this one especially
.
We are not at test here, the bible is. Why do you need to pick out and highlight parts of text to support your point? Is your god not capable of expressing himself in an unambiguous way?

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Edge, what's with the fonts and colors lately?
He has noticed that it annoys some here, so now he will continue doing it. Standard behaviour of 5 year olds.

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Which one would you say was right? Which one was morally right or can you not make a judgement call with your freewill?
That is not the point. The point is that some people, who claim to have god on their side, must obviously be wrong (since both sides in war claimed it). So why should we trust such people? Why should we trust you?

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Edge, how do you know that it wasn't Satan behind the bible?

Bimp
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Bimp? Is that how Inspector Clouseau would say it?
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Bimp? Is that how Inspector Clouseau would say it?
I think it's similar to the internet saying, "quoted for trith."
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Which would make FTW something to do with alcohol..

Crazy man.
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He has noticed that it annoys some here, so now he will continue doing it. Standard behaviour of 5 year olds.

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I kinda thought so. Just pathetic.
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Don't assume anything.

If I don't do, it I don't support it.

Not my problem and none of my buisness.



No maybe not but you direct it towards Christians and Christianity yes?
There is nothing in the new testament that is against gay marriage.
So I ask again, are you against gay marriage?
Do you believe Homosexuality is an abomination?
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Sure it does but I'm not going to beat slaves, or stone anyone? At least not as described.
If you wouldn't beat slaves and stone people as described how would you beat and stone them?
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There is nothing in the new testament that is against gay marriage.
So I ask again, are you against gay marriage?
Do you believe Homosexuality is an abomination?


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If you wouldn't beat slaves and stone people as described how would you beat and stone them?
This is the 21st century. We have "meaningful and productive dialogue" with our slaves, prostitutes, disobedient children, and heathens. Get with the times.
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That is not the point. The point is that some people, who claim to have god on their side, must obviously be wrong (since both sides in war claimed it). So why should we trust such people? Why should we trust you?

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So you think that's always true for every war? I like the change in fonts from

time to time, what's the problem?
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So you think that's always true for every war? I like the change in fonts from

time to time, what's the problem?
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So you think that's always true for every war? I like the change in fonts from

time to time, what's the problem?
Not everyone has GOOD EYES.

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Actually, the smaller Edge's fonts get the better. What's the beef?
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Not everyone has GOOD EYES.

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So you think that's always true for every war?
No, why should I think that? It only needs to be true for one war to show you cannot trust people when they say god in on their side.

Quote:

I like the change in fonts from

time to time, what's the problem?
I haven't protested about your fonts. I know people like you do that to try to annoy, and I simply ignore it. If a post gets too hard to read, I simply don't.

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