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22nd November 2011, 08:20 PM | #121 |
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really? Who was Asherah then?
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22nd November 2011, 08:56 PM | #122 |
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22nd November 2011, 11:30 PM | #127 |
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Is that how you avoid difficult question? Say "there is no link" (to the bible???)
That doesn't ring true to me. Even if you were too lazy to pick up your copy of the bible, you could always look up http://www.biblegateway.com/ and verify my quotes. Hey, look at that! I just quoted a "sorce"! Now you will have to answer me. |
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23rd November 2011, 02:38 AM | #129 |
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23rd November 2011, 05:57 AM | #132 |
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23rd November 2011, 06:16 AM | #135 |
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you shall have no other gods before me. "Gods" is pural. I have never hear of your versions before. But it is easy to change words in books, that is why the god of the bible isn't a real one. A real god's bible could never ever be changed in anyway that would change any meaning within it by anyone. Seeing that the bible is not self correcting, it has nothing to do with a real god. Paul |
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23rd November 2011, 10:14 AM | #136 |
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Wrong, it says we have the right to re-proof it and discuss it.
He's talking about the false paths and the false gods, not to mention the beings that are lower. Especially the fallen ones that are lower who trick us into believing they are god, that's one of the reasons and rights we have and that is to figure it out. That is also part of his plan. Listen and read what Jude Brando posted before. |
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Yes, seems like a real book of god would have only one meaning so if two or more read it they would all agree on what it meant, the fact that we have all these different interpretations is strong evidence that it's just another work of fiction with a poor plot and only one sustaining character.
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That's nice. So what?
Jude Brando, you sometimes answer questions put to you, so I'd like to ask why someone of at least normal intelligence would quote the Bible to a bunch of people who put no credence in it, as if that would prove something to them. Why do you do that? It's like quoting the Just-So stories to describe to a bunch of evolutionary biologists how the rhinoceros got its skin or the armadillo its scales. So why do you do it? Thank you. |
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How do you know you are not being tricked?????? Why are the others being tricked .....but you are not????? What if YOU TOO were being tricked???? How would a trickster god's bible have been any different from the one we have today???? How would the world be any different from one being run by a none caring shyster of a god??? I am really interested to know Edge.....how do you know you are not being tricked????? |
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OK, how do you know it wasn't just your mind playing tricks on you? People of every faith do the same thing and confirm their beliefs, many contradictory to yours, the same way. My grandfather converted to Christianity while he was reading the Bible in bed the middle of the night, obviously sleep deprived and very likely dreaming. Someone else I know sees ghosts when they are in that awake/asleep paralysis zone - even I do. The brain is a powerful hallucination machine, and religious hallucinations tend to confirm whatever faith is hovering in your mind at the moment when these hallucinations are most likely.
So, Limbo, how can you be sure your various techniques of mysticism didn't merely allow your brain to mess with you the way brains are known to do? How do you know it wasn't Satan messing with you? |
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err ...
Those three verses have nothing to do with pagan influences. They are basically just Paul asking the Corinthians to be nice like he is. Verses 17 and 18 are consistent with the three that I quoted. Of course not! Nobody actually understands any of the passages in the bible - they merely interpret them. The quoted verses are clearly suggesting that God's followers should keep to their own because God has nothing to do with evil. Have you forgotten which part of your posts I was responding to? like Sledge said ... Do you have any idea what my point is? |
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Valid questions, Mr Scott. Knowing is a problem. My approach to solving that problem is two-fold. First, years of studying comparative mysticism, comparative religion, comparative mythology. That has enabled me to unlearn all the crud that pop-culture and orthodoxy shoves in our heads all our lives. Crud that still fills the heads of most religious and non-religious people. Once all that crud is unlearned, then true learning can begin. The comparative fields have allowed me to understand God in a way that few people do. I know what to look for, I understand the pattern of mystical development. That makes it hard for my brain or for Satan to mess with me. Second, I have received verifiable non-local information from God. For example, a series of dreams that came true in sequence. Or visions of the future that come true moments later right before my eyes. And so on. Being able to verify information that I had no way of knowing is a plus. |
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I did the same thing -- for years studying comparative mysticism, comparative religion, comparative mythology, and it led me to skepticism and hard atheism.
My first hint was to see how my perceptions that I was foretelling the future were invalid. For example, I used to feel I could predict what card would come up next on a deck. After a card turned up, I had a feeling I predicted that card. However, if I said out loud to witnesses what the next card would be, I was never right. I think my brain has even once or twice concocted the memory of a dream after the event it supposedly predicted, since I could remember no thoughts of the dream until after the event, nor did I mention to anyone the dream before the event. Understanding how your brain tricks you is an important step to enlightenment. If you want to really know spiritual truth, you have to eliminate all possibility that you've been deluded. If you don't do this, then your search is insincere. You are only out to confirm what you already believe. Here's how you could be wrong about prophesies: 1) After an event you supposedly predicted, you involuntarily revise your memory of your prediction. (the antidote to this is to write down what you predict before the thing happens, and objectively evaluate hits versus misses). 2) The things you predicted were so likely to happen anyway, even if occasionally unlikely. E.g. "I had a dream the sun would come up, over a thin cloud, and it did, just as the dream predicted, so it was a God-given prophetic dream." 3) You cherry-pick predictions that come true and ignore predictions that don't. So Limbo, I really advise you start your search again, using the additions to your skeptic toolbox you learn here. It would be a weak god that couldn't stand up to critical thinking. |
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