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27th November 2011, 09:10 AM | #281 |
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Well there are many theories on why it exists but that's not all that exists.
There are many more good emotions and experiences out there than bad. His reasons are his reasons and this is where we are to help and pick up after ourselves, do onto others as you would have them to for you, to you ect... Something that is indestructible like soul for instance, eventually perfected to that point would take a great deal of power, if you had that power what would you do with it, how would you handle it, how would you treat others with lesser power once you advance through perfection? Maybe it just all a great lesson to make sure you aren't going to be abusive. I read one person’s NDE experience where he stated that when he asked, “ what all this meant” the reply was, “ that nothing we did in our lives really mattered, what mattered was what we did from that point on, in that state that reality.” |
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No, but somebody made it up and you appear to have swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
See above. I have read many books, including some by your mini-god Joseph Campbell. Besides boring me to tears, he left me with a deep and intense feeling of "So what?" What makes you think nobody here ever goes outdoors? |
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There are myriad problems with the above, but I wish to highlight one: let us assume that human life has worth, to begin.
How could you account for a god that directed the suffering of a newly born child infested with parasites, with flies in her eyes to die in pain at 3 months of age? What lesson did she learn about not being abusive? Contrast that with the life of an incredibly abusive Wall Street fatcat. How did he learn a lesson about not being abusive? |
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For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing |
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What's the best argument for UHC? This argument against UHC. "Perhaps one reason per capita GDP is lower in UHC countries is because they've tried to prevent this important function [bankrupting the sick] and thus carry forward considerable economic dead wood?"-BeAChooser |
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There is a big difference between average Christians and Christian mystics. I can see why you would think that I'm trying to have my cake and eat it too. I think the reason you think that is because you have not yet seen how esoteric theology and mysticism transcend the borders between religions, uniting them all. Neither has the average Christian seen. Seeing how is not something I can just show you. You have to learn to see it for yourself. Studying the comparative fields is a good way to see it. Therefore I recommend that you quit wasting time on JREF and go read Joseph Campbell, Huston Smith, Karen Armstrong, Carl Jung, Mircea Eliade for a few years. Sooner or later, you'll see.
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"Elitism is the belief or attitude that some individuals, who form an elite — a select group of people with intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes — are those whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously or carry the most weight; whose views and/or actions are most likely to be constructive to society as a whole; or whose extraordinary skills, abilities or wisdom render them especially fit to govern." Yes special experience and training is required to be a mystic. The same is true for many things. But what does 'select group of people' mean? Mystics don't select themselves or each other. God does the selecting. I didn't decide to be a mystic - my experiences left me no choice in the matter. There is no ambitious decision to be an elitist mystic, and I don't make money from it. And btw, mystics don't want to govern. If the will to govern politically is part of what constitutes an elite, then we aren't one. Mystics just want to advance through the stages of mystical growth, like a moth to a flame. |
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No double standard, because no one is claiming that Science is anything but a Human invention.
God, on the other hand, is supposed to be outside of Humans, but everytime people investigate anything attributed to God, they find something else. They never ever find a god pulling strings. |
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Both ARE right.....since science is a human artifact it cannot exist without humans.....likewise God is a human artifact and thus cannot exist without us. I think what you fail to appreciate is that Science is not GOD to people who love it.....it is more like a Car....we love it and use it to ENHANCE our existence. God is more like a GUN. |
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Here's what Hitchens says about God's Plan (the best stuff starts at 3:57):
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Ah, so you're a Christian mystic, eh? Heh. Thomas Merton, you ain't.
I've also read much of Merton's work and I have a great deal of respect for him. A deep thinker and really lived what he preached. Can you believe yourself? You need to quit hanging out on the net and write a book. I guess it's easier to be all coy on the internets when people are genuinely curious and ask questions. Do you think your heroes like Merton would have been reluctant and petulant and superior-acting when asked similar questions? Merton and his peers spent their lives trying to patiently explain what they thought and why they thought it. Methinks you haven't the faith in yourself enough to meet the challenges issued on JREF. |
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