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30th November 2011, 02:44 AM | #321 |
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"Faith in what?" he asked himself, adrift in limbo. "Faith in faith," he replied. "It isn't necessary to have something to believe in. It's only necessary to believe that somewhere there's something worthy of belief." |
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Humanity has those traits and so God has those traits. Christ is the Son of Man. As above, so below. If we forgive ourselves, then we should forgive God too. If we don't forgive ourselves, then we should damn ourselves too. If we bind those traits on earth, then God will bind them too. "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." -Matthew 16:19 As above so below. |
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"Faith in what?" he asked himself, adrift in limbo. "Faith in faith," he replied. "It isn't necessary to have something to believe in. It's only necessary to believe that somewhere there's something worthy of belief." |
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Not much of anything. That's not snark, by the way. It may seem profound in your mind but your are not communicating that profundity that is in any way that's accessible.
Unless you're trying to say that humans created god and doing so, included all the foibles that vex humankind; if that's what you're trying to say, well, say it. |
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Just asserting that doesn't make it so. Gods plan is the same throughout world religion and myth. The pattern transcends borders. The imprint that Gods plan makes on mystics, regardless of their culture or era, is the same. It's an unchanging testament. The field of comparative mysticism makes that quite clear. Maybe you could try, oh I don't know, studying it? Then you wouldn't have to run around laboring in ignorance and making glib assertions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diviniz...28Christian%29 |
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One of God's plans is: to let nature rule, or if you like natural DISATERS.
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It has been my observation that many of the individuals on this forum understand a lost more about these topics than you even begin to suspect!
Admittedly studying these topics is useful for dealing with other individuals who believe in such things. It also allows one to understand cultural references to religious and mythological narratives. Some of it appeals to the imagination, or is well written and represents good literature and drama (unfortunately most of the Old and New Testament is terribly written). One can gain from religion and mythology (oops, same thing) insight into how humans think and feel, just like studying any great fiction. But seeking insight into how the Universe works, or the mind of God, by studying made-up lies and myths, is a sad misdirection of effort. |
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For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing |
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"If I hadn't believed it with my own mind, I would never have seen it." - thanks sackett "If you stand on a piece of paper, you are indeed closer to the moon." - MRC_Hans "I was a believer. Until I saw it." - Magrat |
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DISATERS, I suspect, is a neologist portmanteau of 'dis' and 'aters'.
'Dis' being to disrespect someone and 'aters' a shortening of 'haters'. Hence 'natural disaters' means those who disrespect and hate nature. All very simple when one is channeling Stephen Fry. What. What. |
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As if you are all perfect here's Giordano's posting error:
" It has been my observation that many of the individuals on this forum understand a lost more about these topics than you even begin to suspect!" Since you want to nitpick. |
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For our money "IN WHICH GOD DO YOU TRUST" Much worse than the Question not asked, is the Answer not Given Don't accept an answer that can't be questioned - God is Surperfluous A society fails when ignorance outweighs knowledge Science doesn’t know everything, but religion doesn’t know anything Life is so horrent and also so beautiful, but without it there is nothing |
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"If I hadn't believed it with my own mind, I would never have seen it." - thanks sackett "If you stand on a piece of paper, you are indeed closer to the moon." - MRC_Hans "I was a believer. Until I saw it." - Magrat |
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Edge, or Limbo, demonstrate that all this god stuff isn't just happening in your head.
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Well skeptics doesn't have a clue.
No I can't know all of his thoughts only what he wants to revel to me personally and what all others before have learned and what’s been revealed to them. A atheist will not receive any revelations about things to come and if they do they will no longer be atheistic, that I do know and that is up to God. |
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