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Old 5th January 2019, 01:38 PM   #521
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This morning I found myself standing in front of my house after dawn came up just so I could look in the direction of Ultima Thule in the sky. It is in the general area of Sagittarius. I simply wished to imagine it there in the real sky, even though it is so far away and so dim as to be meaningless to my vision. Further it is so close to the Sun's position right now as to be part of the daytime sky; "looking at it" is doubly absurd. But in my mind I could "feel" it there and superimpose the pictures from New Horizon.

Incredible that we humans built a device to travel four billion miles to peer at what it could see and tell us about it. The skills to build such a device were amazing enough, but more amazing still was our desire as a species to do so. It gives me hope that our curiosity makes us more than just the dangerous, stupid, animals we all too often act as.
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Old 5th January 2019, 01:59 PM   #522
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Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
Are they actually connected, or just together?



If they are connected, how did they get that way? They must have come in at high enough speed for them to exchange materials in some way to get them to fuse?



If someone went over and gave the smaller lobe a push, would it move away (and then return under the force of gravity)? Or is it all solid?
Why are you assuming it's fused? It might just be accretion of loose material over time.
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Old 7th January 2019, 08:21 AM   #523
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Why are you assuming it's fused? It might just be accretion of loose material over time.
I didn't assume anything, I asked.
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Old 9th January 2019, 06:33 AM   #524
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Originally Posted by lomiller View Post
First Images of Ultima Thule!


https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/80...kind-of-world/

Very unique object. Basically there is nothing like it in the inner solar system AFAIK.


https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/system/...0190102-pr.png
So that's what gods use for pumping iron.
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Old 9th January 2019, 06:34 AM   #525
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Originally Posted by Giordano View Post
This morning I found myself standing in front of my house after dawn came up just so I could look in the direction of Ultima Thule in the sky. It is in the general area of Sagittarius. I simply wished to imagine it there in the real sky, even though it is so far away and so dim as to be meaningless to my vision. Further it is so close to the Sun's position right now as to be part of the daytime sky; "looking at it" is doubly absurd. But in my mind I could "feel" it there and superimpose the pictures from New Horizon.

Incredible that we humans built a device to travel four billion miles to peer at what it could see and tell us about it. The skills to build such a device were amazing enough, but more amazing still was our desire as a species to do so. It gives me hope that our curiosity makes us more than just the dangerous, stupid, animals we all too often act as.
Amen.
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Old 9th January 2019, 12:52 PM   #526
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Originally Posted by Giordano View Post
This morning I found myself standing in front of my house after dawn came up just so I could look in the direction of Ultima Thule in the sky. It is in the general area of Sagittarius. I simply wished to imagine it there in the real sky, even though it is so far away and so dim as to be meaningless to my vision. Further it is so close to the Sun's position right now as to be part of the daytime sky; "looking at it" is doubly absurd. But in my mind I could "feel" it there and superimpose the pictures from New Horizon.

Incredible that we humans built a device to travel four billion miles to peer at what it could see and tell us about it. The skills to build such a device were amazing enough, but more amazing still was our desire as a species to do so. It gives me hope that our curiosity makes us more than just the dangerous, stupid, animals we all too often act as.
That's part of our very human nature. We want to gaze at the horizon, then cross the horizon, then explore what we find there. Then find a new horizon and do it again. This is the most appropriately named probe ever.
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Old 25th January 2019, 02:41 AM   #527
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New image of Ultima Thule released:

http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/News-Center/...?page=20190124
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Old 25th January 2019, 08:34 AM   #528
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New image of Ultima Thule released:

http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/News-Center/...?page=20190124
That's an interesting photo. I have wondered in the past why NASA hardly ever seems to bring out coffee table type books with the photographic results of their space exploration. There may be some which I have never heard about, but it can't be some great big secret.
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Old 25th January 2019, 08:46 AM   #529
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
That's an interesting photo. I have wondered in the past why NASA hardly ever seems to bring out coffee table type books with the photographic results of their space exploration. There may be some which I have never heard about, but it can't be some great big secret.
They have thousands of wonderful images on their websites; perhaps selecting and publishing them as hard copy books is beyond what they are authorized to do (or funded to do) in their role as a governmental agency.

I wonder who owns the copyright? As a USA citizen could I download NASA images, assemble them, and have a commercial photo processor print them out as my own custom calendar or as a book? Not to sell but as gifts or my private ownership?
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Old 25th January 2019, 09:08 AM   #530
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Originally Posted by Pixel42 View Post
New image of Ultima Thule released:

http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/News-Center/...?page=20190124
Wonderful!
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Old 25th January 2019, 12:58 PM   #531
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Originally Posted by Giordano View Post
I wonder who owns the copyright? As a USA citizen could I download NASA images, assemble them, and have a commercial photo processor print them out as my own custom calendar or as a book? Not to sell but as gifts or my private ownership?
Your citizenship does not matter. For the most part NASA images are public domain and have no copyright.

https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/guidelines/index.html
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Old 25th January 2019, 01:20 PM   #532
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I saw a wonderful book of moon photos a friend had. I'd almost call it a coffee table book but I think the appeal was more to the propeller heads than average person. Most photos were black and white and the detail was stunning. IIRC the photos mostly had the scale reference marks which sort of limits the artsy aspect.

Not positive but I believe BowlOfRed is correct. NASA declassifies everything at some point and it's released as public domain and I'm pretty sure the photos are included.

At least some NASA photos can be obtained through the US government bookstore (as well as a lot of cool books). The moon book was bought through that source.
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Old 28th January 2019, 09:40 PM   #533
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Originally Posted by MEequalsIxR View Post
I saw a wonderful book of moon photos a friend had.
This is my favorite NASA moon photo

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Old 28th January 2019, 11:25 PM   #534
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So much for the flat earthers.

That is an amazing image.
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Old 29th January 2019, 05:40 AM   #535
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Originally Posted by lomiller View Post
This is my favorite NASA moon photo

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...ictureid=12048
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So much for the flat earthers.

That is an amazing image.
Flat Earther says: Still looks flat to me.
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Old 29th January 2019, 07:11 AM   #536
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Flat Earther says: Still looks flat to me.
The really sad and yet scary part is you are probably right.
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Old 29th January 2019, 11:40 AM   #537
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Flat Earther says: Still looks flat to me.
The really sad and yet scary part is you are probably right.
It's worse than that. Apparently they've taken to arbitrary image manipulation of the Apollo 8 Earthrise photograph to "prove" it's really a hidden demon image. (Source: Canadian Geographic Magazine, Jan/Feb 2019, "Inside the Flat Earth Society").
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It appears that the two lobes of Ultima Thule aren't spherical but flattened, like pancakes.

http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/News-Center/...?page=20190208

Weird.
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Old 9th February 2019, 06:21 AM   #539
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Flat Earth, y'all!!
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It appears that the two lobes of Ultima Thule aren't spherical but flattened, like pancakes.

http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/News-Center/...?page=20190208

Weird.
Or is it a disc on the back of a turtle?
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Old 12th February 2019, 08:28 AM   #541
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Or is it a disc on the back of a turtle?
And on what does the turtle stand?
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And on what does the turtle stand?
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Old 12th February 2019, 08:41 AM   #543
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Old 12th February 2019, 09:28 AM   #544
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Or is it a disc on the back of a turtle?
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And on what does the turtle stand?
You are both unlearned barbarians, not knowing how the world really is!

Disk on the back of ELEPHANTS. Four of them. On the back of the turtle. From there, it is turtles all the way down.
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Old 12th February 2019, 09:39 AM   #545
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You are both unlearned barbarians, not knowing how the world really is!

Disk on the back of ELEPHANTS. Four of them. On the back of the turtle. From there, it is turtles all the way down.
Have you seen the pictures? Where are the other three elephants, eh?
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You are both unlearned barbarians, not knowing how the world really is!

Disk on the back of ELEPHANTS. Four of them. On the back of the turtle. From there, it is turtles all the way down.
Nope it's the disc on the backs of four elephants standing on the turtle The Great A'Tuin who swims through space.
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Old 17th February 2019, 04:36 AM   #547
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You are both unlearned barbarians, not knowing how the world really is!

Disk on the back of ELEPHANTS. Four of them. On the back of the turtle. From there, it is turtles all the way down.
According to Belz... in #543 it's Thules all the way down

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New Horizons Spacecraft Returns Its Sharpest Views of Ultima Thule

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/new-hor...f-ultima-thule
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