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Old 30th December 2018, 10:32 PM   #1
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Broadband: The epitomy of a stupid person

So this "friend" of mine.

He has had the same broadband plan for like 10 years.

This plan was like 30mbps, and never bothered to do anything to get better

This "friend" then had fiber broadband installed down his road about 3 years ago.

He "said" he finally rang today and found the plan was killed off years ago and found out not only can he get 200mbps for exactly the same price (up to 1000 but heaps more money), it is free instillation and he gets free Netflix and mobile plan.

If "I" was "him" I would be really embarrassed

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Old 31st December 2018, 01:46 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
So this "friend" of mine.

He has had the same broadband plan for like 10 years.

This plan was like 30mbps, and never bothered to do anything to get better

This "friend" then had fiber broadband installed down his road about 3 years ago.

He "said" he finally rang today and found the plan was killed off years ago and found out not only can he get 200mbps for exactly the same price (up to 1000 but heaps more money), it is free instillation and he gets free Netflix and mobile plan.

If "I" was "him" I would be really embarrassed

I've got a "friend" just like that. The number of stupid things "he's" done over the years.
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Old 31st December 2018, 01:57 AM   #3
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Your friend needs to learn to spell epitome.
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Old 31st December 2018, 02:04 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by lionking View Post
Your friend needs to learn to spell epitome.
Now you make fun of my cute, quaintly charming accent.
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Old 31st December 2018, 04:19 AM   #5
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I had a plan that gave a max 10Mb, for ten years. When British Telecom plastered posters all over the place, and sent me multiple leaflets saying, "78Mb available in your area now!" I got onto my ISP to upgrade. They eventually replied saying they had contacted BT and there was no fibre capacity at the exchange.

The government is pressing BT to upgrade their exchanges to high speed broadband in rural areas. So in order to meet targets, BT installed what I believe to be a single box in the exchange and ran a bunch of fibre to about a dozen houses in the area. This was enough to tick off our town as 'fibre enabled' and achieve their target. The fact that 99% of people here can't get high speed broadband, and will never get high speed broadband, is apparently a detail not worth mentioning.

Welcome to the third world.
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Old 31st December 2018, 04:36 AM   #6
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30? I was on my old 1Mb/s contract until like two years ago. Well, they had upgraded it for free to 3 and then to 6 at some points, because they didn't have the equipment to deal with my old contract

When I finally went to upgrade to 100, the guy goes, "OK, let's see what your existing contract is..." Then he went and brought another guy to have a laugh too at what this guy still has. I'm not making this up.

I really didn't need more than 6 to read stuff on the web and cat videos, really, so I never bothered to upgrade.
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Old 31st December 2018, 04:50 AM   #7
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Fibre down your street? What futuristic country has this marvelous boon?!

Here in Australia using NBN we can get anything up to 56K bits by using two strands of fence-wire and we are glad to get it! Because our government has told us it is the best for getting one of those internet tubes.



Ah, I see. You're in New Zealand. Right.
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Old 31st December 2018, 04:57 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by baron View Post
I had a plan that gave a max 10Mb, for ten years. When British Telecom plastered posters all over the place, and sent me multiple leaflets saying, "78Mb available in your area now!" I got onto my ISP to upgrade. They eventually replied saying they had contacted BT and there was no fibre capacity at the exchange.

The government is pressing BT to upgrade their exchanges to high speed broadband in rural areas. So in order to meet targets, BT installed what I believe to be a single box in the exchange and ran a bunch of fibre to about a dozen houses in the area. This was enough to tick off our town as 'fibre enabled' and achieve their target. The fact that 99% of people here can't get high speed broadband, and will never get high speed broadband, is apparently a detail not worth mentioning.

Welcome to the third world.
Precisely my issue. I live 6/10ths of a mile from the analogue exchange building outside which is a green cabinet encouraging me to get in touch for an upgrade.

There are exactly 4 houses before mine all served from the roadside telegraph pole.

"Hello, I'd like to upgrade my broadband please".

"You need to have a green cabinet within a reasonable distance of your property".

"I do".

"Yes but you are on an analogue exchange".

"Yes, but you've fitted a green cabinet outside and I watched the contractors lay the fibre cable right past my house about 10 months ago.

"Well you can't upgrade because buffle bumble ******** acronyms".

"When can I expect to be able to upgrade?"

"Once we have installed all the required hardware you should be able to upgrade then".

"I've just told you that you've installed all the hardware and on on the cabinet it says that superfast broad band is in my area".

"buffle bumble ******** acronyms"
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Old 31st December 2018, 05:04 AM   #9
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Precisely my issue. I live 6/10ths of a mile from the analogue exchange building outside which is a green cabinet encouraging me to get in touch for an upgrade.

There are exactly 4 houses before mine all served from the roadside telegraph pole.

"Hello, I'd like to upgrade my broadband please".

"You need to have a green cabinet within a reasonable distance of your property".

"I do".

"Yes but you are on an analogue exchange"...
Yep, my exchange is 0.4 miles away. I wasn't even told why I couldn't get fibre, although of course I knew, just that it wasn't available and that BT (and I'm not kidding here) had no plans to ever make it available. Hilariously, when I go on their broadband checker website and check my own phone number I'm told that I can get... fibre broadband at 76Mbs. You couldn't make it up.
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Now you make fun of my cute, quaintly charming accent.
We have to. It's the only one worse than ours
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anatomy, instead of epitome? epidemic?

anecdote? cool story?
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We have to. It's the only one worse than ours
Haw yoo ya munter, speak fer yersel'
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Old 31st December 2018, 07:24 AM   #13
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I don't see the problem. Surely everyone gets this nowadays:

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Geez... That's a nasty looking ping.
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I should be able to get about 50 Mbps now. As soon as my ISP buys some more of the fibre that has been installed. This should happen in January 2019.

Would have been able to get even better speeds, but the Labor government who promised fibre to the curb was voted out and the Liberals, who promised to be different on everything, changed it to fibre to the node for reduced speeds.
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I should be able to get about 50 Mbps now. As soon as my ISP buys some more of the fibre that has been installed. This should happen in January 2019.

Would have been able to get even better speeds, but the Labor government who promised fibre to the curb was voted out and the Liberals, who promised to be different on everything, changed it to fibre to the node for reduced speeds.
I get about 50mbps now, and I’m about 500 mtrs from the node. It would be double that if we had fibre to the premises. Stuff you Turnbull.
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I get about 50mbps now, and I’m about 500 mtrs from the node. It would be double that if we had fibre to the premises. Stuff you Turnbull.
Nitpick: It was Tony Abbott who wrecked the idea of fast Internet speeds in Australia. Not Turnbull.
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In case anyone is interested here are two examples of what you can get in Australia.


https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/plans-bundles
https://www.optus.com.au/shop/broadb...roadband/plans
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Originally Posted by rjh01 View Post
In case anyone is interested here are two examples of what you can get in Australia.


https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/plans-bundles
https://www.optus.com.au/shop/broadb...roadband/plans
Far out

My father and a couple of brothers live around Melbourne and they are always complaining about speed.

Admittedly I live in Wellington (Small place, 2 unis and parliament so would probably have the best), not sure about the country areas, but got unlimited at up to 200mbps, and netflex and mobile for 109 bucks a month.

As mentioned earlier I could have gone 1000 if I wasn't a peasant
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The upside of having 10Mbs is that the price is fixed so I only pay £18 per month.
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TBH, to return to the OP, I'm not sure why would it be a sign of stupidity, if one isn't on the latest and greatest Internet connection. It may be hard to comprehend, but most people's lives don't really revolve around being able to stream 12 HD porn streams at the same time. If the connection is fast enough to read email, watch the occasional cat video, and maybe to play some online game, that's more than enough for most people.
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Far out

My father and a couple of brothers live around Melbourne and they are always complaining about speed.

Admittedly I live in Wellington (Small place, 2 unis and parliament so would probably have the best), not sure about the country areas, but got unlimited at up to 200mbps, and netflex and mobile for 109 bucks a month.

As mentioned earlier I could have gone 1000 if I wasn't a peasant
What can you do at 200 Mbps that cannot be done at slower speeds? Liberal Government answer: Nothing that consumers would want to do. My answer: do not know, but would love to find out.
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Now you make fun of my cute, quaintly charming accent.
Just leave Greek to the Greeks.
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What can you do at 200 Mbps that cannot be done at slower speeds? Liberal Government answer: Nothing that consumers would want to do. My answer: do not know, but would love to find out.
For me it's the upload speeds. My upload is a massive 0.053Mbs. For my work I frequently upload large files (100MB+) and it's excruciating. If I ventured 150 miles up the Amazon with a smart phone I'd likely get better speeds.
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Well, if you're a streamer or otherwise regularly upload huge files, sure, I see the problem there. For me, most I had to upload were 10-20 MB mods, and it's not like I was producing meshes faster than they uploaded in the background or anything.
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The local utility, Bright Ridge started installing 10 Gbps symmetric fiber.
And my first response to this announcement simply began with the word, "Why?"
At the most you might use a 25 Mbps connection for video or a download, maybe, once in a while.
But I cannot think of any reason for a connection faster than that.
A Mac update should take hours, not seconds.

Anyway, they didn't mention the cost. But I can guess a price of about $20000 a month.
Contrast that with All2Easy dial-up all-you-can-eat-internet-buffet for $5 a month — a $1995 a month savings.

P.S. I've been thinking of getting a "Dial-Up Forever!" T-shirt.

P.P.S. How about a 480 Kbps satellite connection for $7.00 per megabyte. Ouch!

Sources: All2Easy, BGAN Rates, Bright Ridge.
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The local utility, Bright Ridge started installing 10 Gbps symmetric fiber.
And my first response to this announcement simply began with the word, "Why?"
At the most you might use a 25 Mbps connection for video or a download, maybe, once in a while.
But I cannot think of any reason for a connection faster than that.
A Mac update should take hours, not seconds.

Anyway, they didn't mention the cost. But I can guess a price of about $20000 a month.
Contrast that with All2Easy dial-up all-you-can-eat-internet-buffet for $5 a month — a $1995 a month savings.

P.S. I've been thinking of getting a "Dial-Up Forever!" T-shirt.

P.P.S. How about a 480 Kbps satellite connection for $7.00 per megabyte. Ouch!

Sources: All2Easy, BGAN Rates, Bright Ridge.
Planning for the future so they don't have to tear up the streets yet again. "Everything" is going to be connected one day. Live streaming 10K baby monitors, 15 TB video game downloads on BitTorrent...3D porn.

I'm a nerd and hadn't thought to check my plan in years. I'm getting ripped off, can't wait to get higher BW for less money tomorrow.
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In case anyone is interested here are two examples of what you can get in Australia.


https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/plans-bundles
https://www.optus.com.au/shop/broadb...roadband/plans
Because the "last mile" of our service is still the slowest and most error prone section, using your existing telephone cable. Ours was installed in 1944...true! And yet our NBN node is on our kerb less than 5 metres from my house.
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Geez... That's a nasty looking ping.

I'm pretty sure there's an ointment for that.
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Geez... That's a nasty looking ping.
I can't say I've really noticed it being a problem, but if I really wanted to make it better I could switch from wifi and have a wired connection instead, I suppose.
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That kind of lag is only a big deal if you're trying to do something in real-time, like twitch games or controlling a robot somewhere...

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BT have been trying to get me to upgrade to fibre for ages, but I never bothered because I've always found my internet connection adequate, if a little slow at times. They've now offered me a free upgrade (apart from a £10 delivery for the new hub) for the next 18 months, so I've decided to go for it. After the 18 months it will be an extra £7 a month, £52 instead of £45. That's for unlimited usage, and includes the land line rental and free weekend calls.
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Higher speeds would be a mixed bag. Sure, better video streaming, but you’ll hit the download caps quicker, and then you’ll get charged out the wazoo by the cable company (even more so than usual).
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Far out

My father and a couple of brothers live around Melbourne and they are always complaining about speed.

Admittedly I live in Wellington (Small place, 2 unis and parliament so would probably have the best), not sure about the country areas, but got unlimited at up to 200mbps, and netflex and mobile for 109 bucks a month.

As mentioned earlier I could have gone 1000 if I wasn't a peasant
Wellington, eh? So 'this friend' of yours is Mark Broadband who lives on 1316 Drury Lane? The muffin guy? That guy's an idiot!!!
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Originally Posted by jnelso99 View Post
Higher speeds would be a mixed bag. Sure, better video streaming, but you’ll hit the download caps quicker, and then you’ll get charged out the wazoo by the cable company (even more so than usual).
I don't remember the last time I saw a UK home internet package that had a download cap. Some of the budget ones may and there's the 'normal' ISP definition of Unlimited...

But normal people, with normal use won't ever run into a download cap
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Old 7th January 2019, 12:58 AM   #38
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Originally Posted by novaphile View Post
That kind of lag is only a big deal if you're trying to do something in real-time, like twitch games or controlling a robot somewhere...

I can't really remember a game where a 14ms ping was actually a problem.

Now I did manage to shoot myself in the back of the head while running and shooting on a 2000ms ping, back in ye olde days when I gave AOL a try. I swear I'm not making it up. If your weapon ain't hitscan, don't run and gun on a bad connection
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I don't remember the last time I saw a UK home internet package that had a download cap. Some of the budget ones may and there's the 'normal' ISP definition of Unlimited...

But normal people, with normal use won't ever run into a download cap
As we live in Hull, and therefore not under BT, we generally only have KC as an option.

As such, until recently we had a download limit of 35GB per month. This wasn't an issue until first born found youtube. Over Christmas we were on track to exceed that after just over 2 weeks.

I looked it up on KC website, to kind we now only have unlimited download as new deals, so we upgraded to the cheapest option (£40/m). Seems enough so far, as we aren't heavy users other than some youtube use.

We upgraded to Lightstream a number of year ago, but we are also slow on the uptake as well usually.
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Old 7th January 2019, 12:13 PM   #40
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This will push your limits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k2uKb9vCOI

There is an 8k setting ...mine hiccupped at that but was okay on 4k.
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