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Old 8th January 2019, 11:04 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Poor logic, sorry. Unless you are equating your birth with the Holocaust or the effects of slavery. Sounds trite.
non sequitur. My birth was a unique historical event unlike the Holocaust or slavery. If I were comparing them, would my logic be sound?
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Old 22nd January 2019, 06:03 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by PhantomWolf View Post
Hmmm, in your first post I wasn't able to tell if you were sarcastically agreeing with my point, or if you had missed it entirely, however looking at your edit I believe the second is the more likely, so allow me to spell out what I said in really clear language so you get it.

Sometimes there are good side effects from bad actions, and some people might have a reason to say that they are better off, or exist, because of that bad action, but those side effects in no way decrease, lessen, or make better the original bad action nor diminish the repugnance one should feel towards the actors responsible for that bad action, even if something good came from it for you personally. And it certainly doesn't mean that you should treat the bad actors as heroes because you got a benefit from a terrible circumstance.

As another example, my father dying helped to pay for my wedding, but that doesn't lessen the tragedy of my father dying even though I was grateful for him leaving me the money.
I suppose i wasn't clear enough in my sarcasm. I was agreeing with you that unintended consequences of bad actions don't mitigate the moral culpability of bad actors.

The idea is absurd on its face and I don't really think that many people making it actually do so in good faith.
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