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Old 10th February 2019, 07:57 AM   #1
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New York Times Opinion Editor Bari Weiss Hates Tulsi Gabbard, But Can’t Remember Why

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2019/02/...-remember-why/

NY Times columnist Bari Weiss smeared Tulsi Gabbard as an "Assad toady," then couldn't spell/define toady or offer any evidence to prove her smear.


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Old 10th February 2019, 08:03 AM   #2
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...32c_story.html
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Old 10th February 2019, 08:05 AM   #3
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It isn't a secret she met with Assad and that it served Assad's interests to meet with a congressperson
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Originally Posted by d4m10n View Post
Pawall for me can you quote any of it? I saw the headline... ouch
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Old 10th February 2019, 08:07 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
It isn't a secret she met with Assad and that it served Assad's interests to meet with a congressperson
While condemning u.s. backed troops as terrorists...yes


fair and balanced
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Old 10th February 2019, 08:16 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
Pawall for me can you quote any of it? I saw the headline... ouch
Here you go...

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Gabbard, in a press release, called Bassam Khawam and his brother, Elie, who also joined the trip, “longtime peace advocates.” Her office told me she had “no prior knowledge or relationship” with the pair and directed all inquiries to the organization or Kucinich. Messages left for Khawam and Kucinich were not retuned.

The actual source of the funding for the trip is murky, too. But there’s no doubt the Assad regime facilitated it. Not only did the group get an audience with the president, but they also received access to sensitive areas under the protection of government forces. In several arranged meetings, Syrians told Gabbard that Assad is a benevolent ruler fighting terrorists and that the U.S. policy of opposing him is unjust.

Upon her return, Gabbard referenced those Syrians in interviews and op-eds to reinforce her long-held opposition to what she calls the U.S. “regime change” policy in Syria. She also asserted there are no moderate rebels in Syria and that the United States is funding and arming al-Qaeda and the Islamic State. Neither is true, but both match the talking points that the Assad regime has been pushing for the entirety of the war.
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Old 10th February 2019, 08:21 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
While condemning u.s. backed troops as terrorists...yes


fair and balanced
Some of them are
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Old 11th February 2019, 09:46 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
While condemning u.s. backed troops as terrorists...yes


fair and balanced
"US funded" doesn't make the terrorists look better, it makes the US look worse (If that is possible)
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Old 11th February 2019, 10:11 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
Pawall for me can you quote any of it?
Here's a part of it:

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Old 11th February 2019, 01:08 PM   #10
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Anything with Jimmy Dore I dislike on sight.

Gabbard's suspicion about the 2017 chemical attack is defensible, if a little naive.
The "official report" if you like about the 2013 incident didn't conclusively pin the attack on anyone, but of course we tend to strongly lean towards the Syrian govt as the perpetrators for that one.

But of course Jimmy Dore will put his usual crackpot spin on everything. Assad is innocent, these people said Iraq had WMDs (which they probably did), Russia Today can be trusted, blah blah..
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Old 11th February 2019, 02:10 PM   #11
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I followed links and googled Weiss and looked at her NYT byline, and I have no idea what the title of this thread refers to. Where did she "smear" Gabbard? All I see is a blog post last week at antiwar.com. From what I know of Weiss, she wouldn't be writing there.
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Old 11th February 2019, 05:02 PM   #12
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Anything with Jimmy Dore I dislike on sight.
This is a trifecta of terrible Bari Weiss & Joe Rogan discussing politics and Jimmy Dore giving his opinion on that.
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Old 13th February 2019, 09:16 AM   #13
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so, root for the meteor? Isn't Bari Weiss the one that wrote that bit about the "Intellectuals of the Dark Web"?
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