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Totally straw.
I have never advanced that positon and can show posts to prove it. Anyway, Capt Swoop gets it. Surrender is a not a concept Maori were familiar with, otherwise, it would have been a great idea and would have saved hundreds of thousands of Maori who died needlessly fighting each other afterwards. |
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I think perhaps Ziggurat was being a tad sardonic ?
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"As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose -- that it may violate property instead of protecting it -- then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder. Political questions will always be prejudicial, dominant, and all-absorbing. There will be fighting at the door of the Legislative Palace, and the struggle within will be no less furious." - Bastiat, The Law |
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Fighting over what little was left after the Brits took it from them.
And it was in fact British colonization that lead us up to the Afghanistan war in the first place, arrogant Brits decided that India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan was their for the taking because that's how God wanted it. |
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"As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose -- that it may violate property instead of protecting it -- then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder. Political questions will always be prejudicial, dominant, and all-absorbing. There will be fighting at the door of the Legislative Palace, and the struggle within will be no less furious." - Bastiat, The Law |
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So the Taliaban has found some "Useful Idiots" supporters among the Hard Left in the West. Sad,but not surprising.
We could get into a interesting discussion of why so many on the Militant Left are carrying water for Isalamic Militants. In the case of some, though , it is the psychotic hatred for the United States, and ,probably, the West in general. I wonder how long until we get "The US had it coming on 9/11" arguments here? |
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Where are they?
I trust you're not misrepresenting my position by saying I support them, because that would be a lie. I sincerely doubt it. The strawman positions employed in any kind of discussion like that would preclude it. For evidence, look at Jeremy Corbyn, who has been mis-quoted, misrepresented and lied about. Hawks so badly want to tar the hard left with terrorists that I think they actually get off thinking about it. Imagine if you could intertwine both enemies! Utopia! Given the amount of psychotic hatred inside USA, that's bloody funny. No, you're completely messed up - it's the west which is laughing at USA and pouring derision on its actions. Surely, someone's already said that? I wouldn't say "Had it coming" so much as "left the door open" with absurdly lax intelligence and transport management. |
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After my post? Here's the exchange:
Post 154 Post 158: Post 159: Post 160: Unless you're positing time travel, then my use of the term "westerner" comes after (and in response to) this tangent about British colonization of New Zealand. Other disputes between us preceded that tangent, but I didn't use the word "westerner" in any of those earlier posts. |
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Not exactly. He doesn't "support" the Taliban's war crimes and crimes against humanity. He simply "understands" why they do it.
But he doesn't like the fact that the US thinks it is doing the right thing when it goes to war. So he "focuses" on the U.S., acting as Chief Accuser and Judge. It doesn't seem to bother him that the Taliban also thinks it's doing the right thing. ![]() Yeah. I know it doesn't make any sense, but it's all there in his posts. These are the great minds that accuse and judge us. They are beyond our puny powers of comprehension. |
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War in Afghanistan is an old story.
Interesting to see that one of the people doing bad things for the Soviet backed government in 1979 has been arrested in the Netherlands.
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Old story indeed. Failures in history indeed. This is exactly why we should not give up on it.
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No ****.
I'm old enough to recall not far post-war comedies where the old guys used to reminisce about fighting fuzzy-wuzzies on the North-West Frontier. Yeah mate! Carrying its superb record into the fight, USA will sort it out. Going great guns so far. People seem to be largely voting with their feet. |
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Cheerleaders for totalitarianism and lovers of the enemy. Zero understanding of our national holidays. No shame. Gets a laugh out of me. Your mileage may vary.
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I love the way you talk about conspiracies while making up blatant lies about someone.
Twice. No. Zero interest in your national holidays. As in, less interest than what Zag the penguin had for breakfast this morning. (it was fish, by the way) Then the thread's working well, because I find you hysterically funny. |
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Pick and choose bro. You are the one to proclaims to wish the Nazis had one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD6oDnm43HA See, this is something you could have been listening to other than the news today |
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Today we are remembering the men and women who died keeping terrorists and totalitarians from taking over afghanistan. The Atheist isn't welcome here.
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FTFY.
Since it's blatantly obvious they haven't gone AWOL yet. (terrorists & Taliban) (Also, I think you'll find it's the anniversary of the WWI Armistice and has Afghanistan involvement only because you keep sending grunts over there to toast hospitals and get wasted by IEDs.) If by "here", you mean USA, you couldn't pay me enough to go there, so any welcome is completely moot. |
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The flag on high! The ranks tightly closed!
The SA marches with quiet, steady step. Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries March in spirit within our ranks. Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries March in spirit within our ranks. Clear the streets for the brown battalions, Clear the streets for the storm division! Millions are looking upon the swastika full of hope, The day of freedom and of bread dawns! Millions are looking upon the swastika full of hope, The day of freedom and of bread dawns! For the last time, the call to arms is sounded! For the fight, we all stand prepared! Already Hitler's banners fly over all streets. The time of bondage will last but a little while now! Already Hitler's banners fly over all streets. The time of bondage will last but a little while now. The flag on high! The ranks tightly closed! The SA march with quiet, steady step. Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries, March in spirit within our ranks. Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries, March in spirit within our ranks |
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Catchy tune. And you thought Jingle Bells got annoying at Christmas Time.
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VICE News embeds with Taliban and Afghan army after Kunduz.
It shows clearly why the Taliban will never win, how delusional they are. The guy who is fixing a shoe, he is saying how great the Taliban are but I'm pretty sure he's lying through his teeth. Anyone would say that on camera with Taliban watching... what was the point of the interview? The Taliban have been planning to regain control when the Americans leave since the Americans came there. Everyone in the world with a brain was expecting some kind of victories. Some victory it was... listen to their depressed explanations of why they left Kunduz. *********** delusional cult members wow! |
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Just for anyone still retaining the fantasy that the Kunduz MSF attack was anything other than a US military screw up, maybe the actual US military admitting human error was to blame will change their minds. (as if!)
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Loss of pay and privileges for 14 days, I'd say - they were only Frogs & ragheads after all. |
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But you were the one who said that it was on purpose
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Yes, I'm not surprised you're confused, because you clearly have no conception of what "on purpose" means.
I'll give you a handy list of synonyms to help you out: deliberately, intentionally, by design, wilfully, calculatedly, premeditatedly, wittingly, knowingly, consciously; in cold blood, of one's own volition; expressly, explicitly, specifically, especially, specially If you need more, let me know.
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Any teacher ever involved in teaching you the English language would cry if they saw this post.
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Yep - it is a bit ambiguous, I guess.
The attack was deliberate, but only because some no-brain got something horribly wrong. It wasn't a case of rogue missiles or poor targeting. The target was hit. I confess to hoping the statement about charges of personnel responsible come through; it would certainly make me re-think the US military. A little. |
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Great to see all those predictions of growing government control and peace breaking out all over Afghanistan turning out to be so accurate:
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That's a stupid statement.
I'm on record as opposing all violence and war. What I'd like is for all the sides to put their guns down, but since that isn't happening, I'll stick to pointing out the futility of USA et al getting involved in situations that are none of their business. |
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NPR's The World just had an interesting segment on the conflict(s) in Afghanistan. The fellow was saying that while we continue to characterize the fighting as "The Taliban" vs. everyone else.... This is far from the case.
The report indicated that what was actually going on was dozens of long-simmering conflicts involving little ethnic groups, individual warlords, drug traffickers, even individual villages. Identifying a neighboring village as being rife with Taliban when in fact the villages may have been hostile to each other for dozens of years... That sort of thing. The report held out very little hope for any kind of peaceful conclusion to all of these ongoing conflicts. |
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You haven't proved the forcible banning of the Taliban is futile. Only time and events can prove or disprove that. Time which has not passed and events which have not yet resolved. Essentially, you are simply reiterating your personal belief that the future holds only failure for the US et al and the people of Afghanistan. Over and over and over again. Ad nauseum. As if the repetition of your mantra will make it true.
It's almost as if you don't want peace to break out in Afghanistan... |
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Correct, and one of the newest battles is ISIS trying to capitalise on the instability. Even the Taliban's on "our side" when it comes ot ISIS, which is quite amusing when you think about it.
Utter tosh. I'm repeating nothing, but I am continuing to post stories which show what an absolute cluster-bomb A'stan is, 14 years after the invasion. Each of those stories is different, containing a different atrocity. It's sickening alright. I have a much better plan. You keep comforting yourself with made-up nonsense, and I'll continue to point out the horrific effects of a "war" that should never have been started, let alone continued to this very day: or maybe you've forgotten the event my sig refers to already? In the real world - which is the one I live in - I'd be glad to eat a dozen plates of raw crow on the topic of Afghanistan and what a balls-up America left there. And if the Fairy Godmother waves her wand and Afghanistan suddenly busrts into peace, you can have first place in the queue with a heaped plate. |
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The "horrific effects" of the war aren't as bad as everyday life was in Afghanistan under Taliban rule. People died like flies then, there was fighting all the time, and the NATO intervention, if nothing else, prevented a famine.
You mean the "real world" that doesn't even know what I just told you? The world has been in a constant state of war for many thousands of years. Afghanistan is one of the remaining regions where the constant state of war continues to hold sway. It will take more than a fairy Godmother and a magic wand to change that. And frankly, your idea of sitting on your ass pointing your magic finger of blame in the wrong direction is pathetic. |
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