Michael Avenatti thread - Page 4

The Big Dog · 21st July 2018, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by CapelDodger

As I've explained, Avenatti is a defendant in the secret suit but the plaintiff in the application to have the seal lifted.

What do you think you mean by "filed in the [secret] suit"? The secret suit and the ex parte application are distinct entities. In the former Avenatti is a defendant. In the latter he is the plaintiff.

I don't imagine anything will ever shake your belief in that.

No you have not explained it, you made it up and you have been continuing to assert one of the single most ridiculous arguments that I have ever seen.

To tell you how silly this argument is, Avenatti in his ex parte application repeatedly calls himself "defendant" and the other side "plaintiff."

Say, just for more giggles, what is Sarah Bechard in the ex parte application, hmmm?

Say, folks get ready to post all the laughing dogs.

(Dream thread)

The Big Dog · 21st July 2018, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

The laughing dog is all you deserve.

Well I am CERTAIN that everyone likes a good laugh. Why don’t you explain in detail what was wrong with my analysis so that you were reduced to posting a laughing dog.

Get ready to get your sides split folks!

WilliamSeger · 21st July 2018, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Well I am CERTAIN that everyone likes a good laugh. Why don’t you explain in detail what was wrong with my analysis so that you were reduced to posting a laughing dog.

Get ready to get your sides split folks!

Your analysis assumes many facts not in evidence, such as what subject(s) were discussed, whether or not Cohen's attorney approved, and if Cohen was possibly seeking independent legal advice.

Foolmewunz · 21st July 2018, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Well I am CERTAIN that everyone likes a good laugh. Why don’t you explain in detail what was wrong with my analysis so that you were reduced to posting a laughing dog.

Get ready to get your sides split folks!

Well, you're right about the first part; we certainly all like a good laugh. It's the reason we await each pseudo-revelation and innuendo with bated breath.

What's wrong with your analysis, as already mentioned above, is that you and the legal eagles you're citing don't know what was discussed, who initiated the discussion or whether Lanny approved or not.

What's wrong with your analysis is that it's based on nitpicking the finer points of the law and not the intent. The law isn't intended to prevent adults from talking with each other if they so desire. It's to prevent predatory attorneys from making an end-run around opposing attorneys by talking to the principals, who they can con into waiving their rights.

I mean, other than that? Sure, it's a great argument. I just spoke to Giuliani, though, and he says he has a tape of the conversation. "Hey, Thirsty! I was hoping I'd run into you here. Lanny says we ought to compare some notes so we don't get blindsided by the next batch of Tweets from that dickhead."

WilliamSeger · 21st July 2018, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Happy to continue:

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...34481839210496

https://twitter.com/ScottGreenfield/...04160741740544

Oh look actual lawyers agreeing with TBD's analysis

/Ah, the laughing dog, that is level of discourse I have come to expect.

BTW, I noticed that both of those tweets were posted the day before "TBD's analysis." Who is agreeing with whom?

Lambchops · 21st July 2018, 11:41 PM

Big dog? Or tiny yapping chihuahua?

You decide.

applecorped · 22nd July 2018, 04:31 AM

The big Pavlov dog, because people always keep responding

acbytesla · 22nd July 2018, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by Lambchops

Big dog? Or tiny yapping chihuahua?

You decide.

But he has the best words.

The Big Dog · 22nd July 2018, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by WilliamSeger

Your analysis assumes many facts not in evidence, such as what subject(s) were discussed, whether or not Cohen's attorney approved, and if Cohen was possibly seeking independent legal advice.

Actually the analysis is based on Avenatti’s own claims, which is that they met coincidentally and discussed among other things Cohen’s relationship with Trump which is directly at issue in at least three suits in which Cohen is a party and Avenatti represents an adverse party.

acbytesla · 22nd July 2018, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Actually the analysis is based on Avenatti’s own claims, which is that they met coincidentally and discussed among other things Cohen’s relationship with Trump which is directly at issue in at least three suits in which Cohen is a party and Avenatti represents an adverse party.

Yawn! I love it when Trump supporters give us lectures about ethics.

What a joke.

WilliamSeger · 22nd July 2018, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Actually the analysis is based on Avenatti’s own claims, which is that they met coincidentally and discussed among other things Cohen’s relationship with Trump which is directly at issue in at least three suits in which Cohen is a party and Avenatti represents an adverse party.

Actually "TBD's analysis" is the parroted opinion of Twitter lawyers who assume facts not in evidence.

The Big Dog · 22nd July 2018, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by WilliamSeger

Actually "TBD's analysis" is the parroted opinion of Twitter lawyers who assume facts not in evidence.

Actually, I saw those posts after I generated my independently developed analysis. It was of course gratifying to see experienced lawyers agreeing with me.

The facts I rely on are set forth in Avenatti’s bragging, and in light of his extremely sketchy ethical history.

So many Avenatti fan bois.

WilliamSeger · 22nd July 2018, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Actually, I saw those posts after I generated my independently developed analysis. It was of course gratifying to see experienced lawyers agreeing with me.

The facts I rely on are set forth in Avenatti’s bragging, and in light of his extremely sketchy ethical history.

So many Avenatti fan bois.

The Big Dog · 22nd July 2018, 07:28 AM

Ah, the NoahFence style waving the white flag.

Gratifying!

WilliamSeger · 22nd July 2018, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Ah, the NoahFence style waving the white flag.

Gratifying!

acbytesla · 22nd July 2018, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Actually, I saw those posts after I generated my independently developed analysis. It was of course gratifying to see experienced lawyers agreeing with me.

The facts I rely on are set forth in Avenatti’s bragging, and in light of his extremely sketchy ethical history.

So many Avenatti fan bois.

Extremely sketchy ethical history.

This from a Trump supporter. Never in my life have I encountered a sleazier, more dishonest, unethical creep as Trump. And here is one of his most avid supporters desperately trying to say that Avenatti is the unethical one.

Please please stop, you look like a fool making this argument.

The Big Dog · 22nd July 2018, 08:47 AM

As usual, a reality check is needed.

Avenatti:

1. involved in sketchy bankruptcy in Fla.
2. accused of defrauding creditors
3. accused of tax fraud.
4. ethics complain filed against him.
5. bankruptcy court enters 10 million judgment against him.
6. bankruptcy court enters a TRO against him
7. moron brags about talking to a party represented by counsel.
8. Cardinals fan.

total scumbag

Garrison · 22nd July 2018, 08:50 AM

Trumps does something especially asinine, TBD drags this thread and/or the 'Hilary is Done' thread back to the top of page. Guess it beats having to address the fact you support a man who sold the US out to the Russians...

acbytesla · 22nd July 2018, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

As usual, a reality check is needed.

Avenatti:

1. involved in sketchy bankruptcy in Fla.
2. accused of defrauding creditors
3. accused of tax fraud.
4. ethics complain filed against him.
5. bankruptcy court enters 10 million judgment against him.
6. bankruptcy court enters a TRO against him
7. moron brags about talking to a party represented by counsel.
8. Cardinals fan.

total scumbag

Donald Trump.
has been sued more than 3500 times.
Declared bankruptcy 6 times.
Lied in court or in depositions more than 2 dozen times.
Ran fraudulent charities
Told the American people he never settles lawsuits when in fact has settled at least 100 times.
Ran a fraudulent university cheating hundreds of students.
Committed civil rights violations in housing
Told the American people that he would release his taxes if nominated and never did.
Had affairs with multiple women and paid off porn stars and lied about it.
Accused of sexual assault and rape by almost a dozen women.
Allegedly had Russian Prostitutes put on a golden shower show.
Enriches himself and his family by violating the Emoluments clause.

And Avenatti is the scumbag? Surely ye jest. You're the kind of guy that think your fiends should be free to recklessly abuse the law, but anyone else who comes close to the margins should be strung up.

Foolmewunz · 23rd July 2018, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

As usual, a reality check is needed.

Avenatti:

1. involved in sketchy bankruptcy in Fla.
2. accused of defrauding creditors
3. accused of tax fraud.
4. ethics complain filed against him.
5. bankruptcy court enters 10 million judgment against him.
6. bankruptcy court enters a TRO against him
7. moron brags about talking to a party represented by counsel.
8. Cardinals fan.

total scumbag

Michael Cohen
1. illegally taped clients without their knowledge
2. scumbag
3. Passed the bar but does not practice law, but "fixing"
4. scumbag
5. friendly with Sean Hannity
6. scumbag
7. colluded with fellow attorney to scam client
8. scumbag

Squeegee Beckenheim · 23rd July 2018, 02:42 AM

Guys, we don't need to argue about this. They can all be scumbags.

acbytesla · 23rd July 2018, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim

Guys, we don't need to argue about this. They can all be scumbags.

They are attorneys. So it is sort of a given.

Drewbot · 23rd July 2018, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim

Guys, we don't need to argue about this. They can all be scumbags.

We used to say the same thing about politicians.

Squeegee Beckenheim · 23rd July 2018, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by Drewbot

We used to say the same thing about politicians.

Yes, the US does seem to have descended into extreme partisanship, where people feel the need to defend to the hilt anybody who they deem to be on their "side". It's a sad state of affairs.

The Big Dog · 23rd July 2018, 06:07 AM

Checks in.

No contradiction of my post about Michael Avenati in the Michael Avenatti thread.

No surprise

acbytesla · 23rd July 2018, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Checks in.

No contradiction of my post about Michael Avenati in the Michael Avenatti thread.

No surprise

What a surprise. You check your own comments and affirm your posts.

LSSBB · 23rd July 2018, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Checks in.

No contradiction of my post about Michael Avenati in the Michael Avenatti thread.

No surprise

What a surprise. They only person in this thread who really appears to care about Michael Avenatti is you.

WilliamSeger · 23rd July 2018, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Checks in.

No contradiction of my post about Michael Avenati in the Michael Avenatti thread.

No surprise

Boring. Can't find any more "TBD analysis" on Twitter?

The Big Dog · 23rd July 2018, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by LSSBB

What a surprise. They only person in this thread who really appears to care about Michael Avenatti is you.

Yet, there are so many posts in the Michael Avenatti thread, I wonder what they are talking about, right?

(hint: 16.5)

plague311 · 23rd July 2018, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Yet, there are so many posts in the Michael Avenatti thread, I wonder what they are talking about, right?

(hint: 16.5)

Why would we bother contradicting your childish name calling of Aveneti? No one here is the "fanboi" you claim we are. The only reason people bother to reply to you at all is to point out that the same things you hate Aveneti for, you seem to have no issues when Trump does. No one is dismissing your argument, you may very well be right. I think the point is, we don't care as long as he keeps exposing Trump's skeletons in his closet. I don't need to like Aveneti to respect what he's doing to Trump.

Basically, just like you, we're willing to overlook his shortcomings for the greater good. Just like you go quiet when Trump's ******** is brought up.

WilliamSeger · 23rd July 2018, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Yet, there are so many posts in the Michael Avenatti thread, I wonder what they are talking about, right?

(hint: 16.5)

Most of the other threads don't have any volunteer piñatas. Step up.

acbytesla · 23rd July 2018, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by plague311

Why would we bother contradicting your childish name calling of Aveneti? No one here is the "fanboi" you claim we are. The only reason people bother to reply to you at all is to point out that the same things you hate Aveneti for, you seem to have no issues when Trump does. No one is dismissing your argument, you may very well be right. I think the point is, we don't care as long as he keeps exposing Trump's skeletons in his closet. I don't need to like Aveneti to respect what he's doing to Trump.

Basically, just like you, we're willing to overlook his shortcomings for the greater good. Just like you go quiet when Trump's ******** is brought up.

Well said.

Avenatti is just a lawyer. He's not a Congress critter, Senator, President or in government in any way. So why should I care very much about his legal practice and business? Overall, he is irrelevant.

The only question I have about Avenatti is if the information he has been bringing to light true? TBD is suggesting because Avenatti may not be the most ethical person, we should just dismiss any and all information about the President he brings forward. Fruit of the poisonous tree so to speak. The problem with that is the information is not about just some petty criminal. No, this is about the President of the United States.

And TBD as a supporter of President Trump, he didn't seem to care that candidate Trump asked that a foreign government hack into and produce the emails of his opponent.

LSSBB · 23rd July 2018, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Yet, there are so many posts in the Michael Avenatti thread, I wonder what they are talking about, right?

(hint: 16.5)

A lot of people rubberneck at an accident. Sometimes they laugh at the drivers involved.

The Big Dog · 23rd July 2018, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by LSSBB

A lot of people rubberneck at an accident. Sometimes they laugh at the drivers involved.

"They laugh at the drivers involved."

wow.

(now what is actually funny is all the people who come into this thread and declare that they don't care about the subject of the thread.)

WilliamSeger · 23rd July 2018, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

"They laugh at the drivers involved."

wow.

(now what is actually funny is all the people who come into this thread and declare that they don't care about the subject of the thread.)

I watch both MSNBC and Stephen Colbert -- surely you don't expect people to be serious all the time?

The Big Dog · 23rd July 2018, 09:37 AM

This week in sleaze:

1. Avenatti violates ethics rules by talking to Cohen and openly brags about it.
2. Avenatti goes on TV program and suggests that he will represent Cohen.
3. THEN goes on twitter and demands that Cohen release everything.

protip: this ain't about Cohen, it is all about feeding Avenatti's monstrous ego.

WilliamSeger · 23rd July 2018, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

This week in sleaze:

1. Avenatti violates ethics rules by talking to Cohen and openly brags about it.
2. Avenatti goes on TV program and suggests that he will represent Cohen.
3. THEN goes on twitter and demands that Cohen release everything.

protip: this ain't about Cohen, it is all about feeding Avenatti's monstrous ego.

Way to go, then.

plague311 · 23rd July 2018, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

"They laugh at the drivers involved."

wow.

(now what is actually funny is all the people who come into this thread and declare that they don't care about the subject of the thread.)

Who said we don't care about Aveneti? I care about him in that he's releasing information that harms the president and exposes his lies. What I don't care about is how you've attempted to make this about everything Aveneti has done in his life that's shady. Maybe reading comprehension isn't working for you here so I wanted to clear this up.

I will speak only for myself, but I really do care about Aveneti. I'm glad he came around and has the sheer drive he does. I condemn the terrible things he's done, but I am able to separate the two. He's not my friend.

acbytesla · 23rd July 2018, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

This week in sleaze:

1. Avenatti violates ethics rules by talking to Cohen and openly brags about it.
2. Avenatti goes on TV program and suggests that he will represent Cohen.
3. THEN goes on twitter and demands that Cohen release everything.

protip: this ain't about Cohen, it is all about feeding Avenatti's monstrous ego.

Protip: Trump does more sleazy things in a day then Avenatti does in a year. Let us know when Avenatti loses his case against Trump.

WilliamSeger · 23rd July 2018, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

This week in sleaze:

1. Avenatti violates ethics rules by talking to Cohen and openly brags about it.
2. Avenatti goes on TV program and suggests that he will represent Cohen.
3. THEN goes on twitter and demands that Cohen release everything.

protip: this ain't about Cohen, it is all about feeding Avenatti's monstrous ego.

Avenatti is one little piece of Donnie's past catching up with him. Having a "monstrous ego" of a TV character on his case is kinda poetic justice, ain't it.

21st July 2018, 04:03 PM	#121
The Big Dog Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29,742	Originally Posted by CapelDodger As I've explained, Avenatti is a defendant in the secret suit but the plaintiff in the application to have the seal lifted. What do you think you mean by "filed in the [secret] suit"? The secret suit and the ex parte application are distinct entities. In the former Avenatti is a defendant. In the latter he is the plaintiff. I don't imagine anything will ever shake your belief in that. No you have not explained it, you made it up and you have been continuing to assert one of the single most ridiculous arguments that I have ever seen. To tell you how silly this argument is, Avenatti in his ex parte application repeatedly calls himself "defendant" and the other side "plaintiff." Say, just for more giggles, what is Sarah Bechard in the ex parte application, hmmm? Say, folks get ready to post all the laughing dogs. (Dream thread)
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21st July 2018, 04:42 PM	#122
The Big Dog Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29,742	Originally Posted by NoahFence The laughing dog is all you deserve. Well I am CERTAIN that everyone likes a good laugh. Why don’t you explain in detail what was wrong with my analysis so that you were reduced to posting a laughing dog. Get ready to get your sides split folks!
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21st July 2018, 11:21 PM	#124
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 40,341	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Well I am CERTAIN that everyone likes a good laugh. Why don’t you explain in detail what was wrong with my analysis so that you were reduced to posting a laughing dog. Get ready to get your sides split folks! Well, you're right about the first part; we certainly all like a good laugh. It's the reason we await each pseudo-revelation and innuendo with bated breath. What's wrong with your analysis, as already mentioned above, is that you and the legal eagles you're citing don't know what was discussed, who initiated the discussion or whether Lanny approved or not. What's wrong with your analysis is that it's based on nitpicking the finer points of the law and not the intent. The law isn't intended to prevent adults from talking with each other if they so desire. It's to prevent predatory attorneys from making an end-run around opposing attorneys by talking to the principals, who they can con into waiving their rights. I mean, other than that? Sure, it's a great argument. I just spoke to Giuliani, though, and he says he has a tape of the conversation. "Hey, Thirsty! I was hoping I'd run into you here. Lanny says we ought to compare some notes so we don't get blindsided by the next batch of Tweets from that dickhead."
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21st July 2018, 11:39 PM	#125
WilliamSeger Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,535	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Happy to continue: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...34481839210496 https://twitter.com/ScottGreenfield/...04160741740544 Oh look actual lawyers agreeing with TBD's analysis /Ah, the laughing dog, that is level of discourse I have come to expect. BTW, I noticed that both of those tweets were posted the day before "TBD's analysis." Who is agreeing with whom?
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21st July 2018, 11:41 PM	#126
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21st July 2018, 10:30 PM	#123
WilliamSeger Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,535	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Well I am CERTAIN that everyone likes a good laugh. Why don’t you explain in detail what was wrong with my analysis so that you were reduced to posting a laughing dog. Get ready to get your sides split folks! Your analysis assumes many facts not in evidence, such as what subject(s) were discussed, whether or not Cohen's attorney approved, and if Cohen was possibly seeking independent legal advice.

22nd July 2018, 04:31 AM	#127
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22nd July 2018, 06:10 AM	#128
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 21,298	Originally Posted by Lambchops Big dog? Or tiny yapping chihuahua? You decide. But he has the best words.
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22nd July 2018, 06:21 AM	#129
The Big Dog Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29,742	Originally Posted by WilliamSeger Your analysis assumes many facts not in evidence, such as what subject(s) were discussed, whether or not Cohen's attorney approved, and if Cohen was possibly seeking independent legal advice. Actually the analysis is based on Avenatti’s own claims, which is that they met coincidentally and discussed among other things Cohen’s relationship with Trump which is directly at issue in at least three suits in which Cohen is a party and Avenatti represents an adverse party.
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22nd July 2018, 06:45 AM	#130
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 21,298	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Actually the analysis is based on Avenatti’s own claims, which is that they met coincidentally and discussed among other things Cohen’s relationship with Trump which is directly at issue in at least three suits in which Cohen is a party and Avenatti represents an adverse party. Yawn! I love it when Trump supporters give us lectures about ethics. What a joke.
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22nd July 2018, 07:04 AM	#131
WilliamSeger Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,535	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Actually the analysis is based on Avenatti’s own claims, which is that they met coincidentally and discussed among other things Cohen’s relationship with Trump which is directly at issue in at least three suits in which Cohen is a party and Avenatti represents an adverse party. Actually "TBD's analysis" is the parroted opinion of Twitter lawyers who assume facts not in evidence.

22nd July 2018, 07:09 AM	#132
The Big Dog Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29,742	Originally Posted by WilliamSeger Actually "TBD's analysis" is the parroted opinion of Twitter lawyers who assume facts not in evidence. Actually, I saw those posts after I generated my independently developed analysis. It was of course gratifying to see experienced lawyers agreeing with me. The facts I rely on are set forth in Avenatti’s bragging, and in light of his extremely sketchy ethical history. So many Avenatti fan bois.
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22nd July 2018, 07:14 AM	#133
WilliamSeger Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,535	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Actually, I saw those posts after I generated my independently developed analysis. It was of course gratifying to see experienced lawyers agreeing with me. The facts I rely on are set forth in Avenatti’s bragging, and in light of his extremely sketchy ethical history. So many Avenatti fan bois.

22nd July 2018, 07:28 AM	#134
The Big Dog Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29,742	Ah, the NoahFence style waving the white flag. Gratifying!
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22nd July 2018, 07:44 AM	#135
WilliamSeger Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,535	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Ah, the NoahFence style waving the white flag. Gratifying!

22nd July 2018, 07:53 AM	#136
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 21,298	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Actually, I saw those posts after I generated my independently developed analysis. It was of course gratifying to see experienced lawyers agreeing with me. The facts I rely on are set forth in Avenatti’s bragging, and in light of his extremely sketchy ethical history. So many Avenatti fan bois. Extremely sketchy ethical history. This from a Trump supporter. Never in my life have I encountered a sleazier, more dishonest, unethical creep as Trump. And here is one of his most avid supporters desperately trying to say that Avenatti is the unethical one. Please please stop, you look like a fool making this argument.
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22nd July 2018, 08:47 AM	#137
The Big Dog Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29,742	As usual, a reality check is needed. Avenatti: 1. involved in sketchy bankruptcy in Fla. 2. accused of defrauding creditors 3. accused of tax fraud. 4. ethics complain filed against him. 5. bankruptcy court enters 10 million judgment against him. 6. bankruptcy court enters a TRO against him 7. moron brags about talking to a party represented by counsel. 8. Cardinals fan. total scumbag
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22nd July 2018, 08:50 AM	#138
Garrison Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,678	Trumps does something especially asinine, TBD drags this thread and/or the 'Hilary is Done' thread back to the top of page. Guess it beats having to address the fact you support a man who sold the US out to the Russians...
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22nd July 2018, 09:31 AM	#139
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 21,298	Originally Posted by The Big Dog As usual, a reality check is needed. Avenatti: 1. involved in sketchy bankruptcy in Fla. 2. accused of defrauding creditors 3. accused of tax fraud. 4. ethics complain filed against him. 5. bankruptcy court enters 10 million judgment against him. 6. bankruptcy court enters a TRO against him 7. moron brags about talking to a party represented by counsel. 8. Cardinals fan. total scumbag Donald Trump. has been sued more than 3500 times. Declared bankruptcy 6 times. Lied in court or in depositions more than 2 dozen times. Ran fraudulent charities Told the American people he never settles lawsuits when in fact has settled at least 100 times. Ran a fraudulent university cheating hundreds of students. Committed civil rights violations in housing Told the American people that he would release his taxes if nominated and never did. Had affairs with multiple women and paid off porn stars and lied about it. Accused of sexual assault and rape by almost a dozen women. Allegedly had Russian Prostitutes put on a golden shower show. Enriches himself and his family by violating the Emoluments clause. And Avenatti is the scumbag? Surely ye jest. You're the kind of guy that think your fiends should be free to recklessly abuse the law, but anyone else who comes close to the margins should be strung up.
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23rd July 2018, 02:22 AM	#140
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 40,341	Originally Posted by The Big Dog As usual, a reality check is needed. Avenatti: 1. involved in sketchy bankruptcy in Fla. 2. accused of defrauding creditors 3. accused of tax fraud. 4. ethics complain filed against him. 5. bankruptcy court enters 10 million judgment against him. 6. bankruptcy court enters a TRO against him 7. moron brags about talking to a party represented by counsel. 8. Cardinals fan. total scumbag Michael Cohen 1. illegally taped clients without their knowledge 2. scumbag 3. Passed the bar but does not practice law, but "fixing" 4. scumbag 5. friendly with Sean Hannity 6. scumbag 7. colluded with fellow attorney to scam client 8. scumbag
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23rd July 2018, 02:42 AM	#141
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23rd July 2018, 02:59 AM	#142
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 21,298	Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim Guys, we don't need to argue about this. They can all be scumbags. They are attorneys. So it is sort of a given.
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23rd July 2018, 05:51 AM	#143
Drewbot Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6,986	Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim Guys, we don't need to argue about this. They can all be scumbags. We used to say the same thing about politicians.
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23rd July 2018, 05:57 AM	#144
Squeegee Beckenheim Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 24,123	Originally Posted by Drewbot We used to say the same thing about politicians. Yes, the US does seem to have descended into extreme partisanship, where people feel the need to defend to the hilt anybody who they deem to be on their "side". It's a sad state of affairs.
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23rd July 2018, 06:07 AM	#145
The Big Dog Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29,742	Checks in. No contradiction of my post about Michael Avenati in the Michael Avenatti thread. No surprise
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23rd July 2018, 06:18 AM	#146
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 21,298	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Checks in. No contradiction of my post about Michael Avenati in the Michael Avenatti thread. No surprise What a surprise. You check your own comments and affirm your posts.
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23rd July 2018, 06:27 AM	#147
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelors Grove Cemetery Posts: 19,950	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Checks in. No contradiction of my post about Michael Avenati in the Michael Avenatti thread. No surprise What a surprise. They only person in this thread who really appears to care about Michael Avenatti is you.
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23rd July 2018, 07:16 AM	#148
WilliamSeger Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,535	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Checks in. No contradiction of my post about Michael Avenati in the Michael Avenatti thread. No surprise Boring. Can't find any more "TBD analysis" on Twitter?

23rd July 2018, 07:23 AM	#149
The Big Dog Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29,742	Originally Posted by LSSBB What a surprise. They only person in this thread who really appears to care about Michael Avenatti is you. Yet, there are so many posts in the Michael Avenatti thread, I wonder what they are talking about, right? (hint: 16.5)
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23rd July 2018, 07:32 AM	#150
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 4,992	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Yet, there are so many posts in the Michael Avenatti thread, I wonder what they are talking about, right? (hint: 16.5) Why would we bother contradicting your childish name calling of Aveneti? No one here is the "fanboi" you claim we are. The only reason people bother to reply to you at all is to point out that the same things you hate Aveneti for, you seem to have no issues when Trump does. No one is dismissing your argument, you may very well be right. I think the point is, we don't care as long as he keeps exposing Trump's skeletons in his closet. I don't need to like Aveneti to respect what he's doing to Trump. Basically, just like you, we're willing to overlook his shortcomings for the greater good. Just like you go quiet when Trump's ******** is brought up.
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23rd July 2018, 07:47 AM	#151
WilliamSeger Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,535	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Yet, there are so many posts in the Michael Avenatti thread, I wonder what they are talking about, right? (hint: 16.5) Most of the other threads don't have any volunteer piñatas. Step up.

23rd July 2018, 09:16 AM	#152
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 21,298	Originally Posted by plague311 Why would we bother contradicting your childish name calling of Aveneti? No one here is the "fanboi" you claim we are. The only reason people bother to reply to you at all is to point out that the same things you hate Aveneti for, you seem to have no issues when Trump does. No one is dismissing your argument, you may very well be right. I think the point is, we don't care as long as he keeps exposing Trump's skeletons in his closet. I don't need to like Aveneti to respect what he's doing to Trump. Basically, just like you, we're willing to overlook his shortcomings for the greater good. Just like you go quiet when Trump's ******** is brought up. Well said. Avenatti is just a lawyer. He's not a Congress critter, Senator, President or in government in any way. So why should I care very much about his legal practice and business? Overall, he is irrelevant. The only question I have about Avenatti is if the information he has been bringing to light true? TBD is suggesting because Avenatti may not be the most ethical person, we should just dismiss any and all information about the President he brings forward. Fruit of the poisonous tree so to speak. The problem with that is the information is not about just some petty criminal. No, this is about the President of the United States. And TBD as a supporter of President Trump, he didn't seem to care that candidate Trump asked that a foreign government hack into and produce the emails of his opponent.
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23rd July 2018, 09:18 AM	#153
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelors Grove Cemetery Posts: 19,950	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Yet, there are so many posts in the Michael Avenatti thread, I wonder what they are talking about, right? (hint: 16.5) A lot of people rubberneck at an accident. Sometimes they laugh at the drivers involved.
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23rd July 2018, 09:30 AM	#154
The Big Dog Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29,742	Originally Posted by LSSBB A lot of people rubberneck at an accident. Sometimes they laugh at the drivers involved. "They laugh at the drivers involved." wow. (now what is actually funny is all the people who come into this thread and declare that they don't care about the subject of the thread.)
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23rd July 2018, 09:37 AM	#155
WilliamSeger Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,535	Originally Posted by The Big Dog "They laugh at the drivers involved." wow. (now what is actually funny is all the people who come into this thread and declare that they don't care about the subject of the thread.) I watch both MSNBC and Stephen Colbert -- surely you don't expect people to be serious all the time?