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No you have not explained it, you made it up and you have been continuing to assert one of the single most ridiculous arguments that I have ever seen.
To tell you how silly this argument is, Avenatti in his ex parte application repeatedly calls himself "defendant" and the other side "plaintiff." Say, just for more giggles, what is Sarah Bechard in the ex parte application, hmmm? Say, folks get ready to post all the laughing dogs. (Dream thread) |
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Well, you're right about the first part; we certainly all like a good laugh. It's the reason we await each pseudo-revelation and innuendo with bated breath.
What's wrong with your analysis, as already mentioned above, is that you and the legal eagles you're citing don't know what was discussed, who initiated the discussion or whether Lanny approved or not. What's wrong with your analysis is that it's based on nitpicking the finer points of the law and not the intent. The law isn't intended to prevent adults from talking with each other if they so desire. It's to prevent predatory attorneys from making an end-run around opposing attorneys by talking to the principals, who they can con into waiving their rights. I mean, other than that? Sure, it's a great argument. I just spoke to Giuliani, though, and he says he has a tape of the conversation. "Hey, Thirsty! I was hoping I'd run into you here. Lanny says we ought to compare some notes so we don't get blindsided by the next batch of Tweets from that dickhead." |
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Big dog? Or tiny yapping chihuahua?
You decide. |
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The big Pavlov dog, because people always keep responding
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Actually the analysis is based on Avenatti’s own claims, which is that they met coincidentally and discussed among other things Cohen’s relationship with Trump which is directly at issue in at least three suits in which Cohen is a party and Avenatti represents an adverse party.
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Actually, I saw those posts after I generated my independently developed analysis. It was of course gratifying to see experienced lawyers agreeing with me.
The facts I rely on are set forth in Avenatti’s bragging, and in light of his extremely sketchy ethical history. So many Avenatti fan bois. |
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Ah, the NoahFence style waving the white flag.
Gratifying! |
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Extremely sketchy ethical history.
![]() ![]() This from a Trump supporter. Never in my life have I encountered a sleazier, more dishonest, unethical creep as Trump. And here is one of his most avid supporters desperately trying to say that Avenatti is the unethical one. Please please stop, you look like a fool making this argument. |
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As usual, a reality check is needed.
Avenatti: 1. involved in sketchy bankruptcy in Fla. 2. accused of defrauding creditors 3. accused of tax fraud. 4. ethics complain filed against him. 5. bankruptcy court enters 10 million judgment against him. 6. bankruptcy court enters a TRO against him 7. moron brags about talking to a party represented by counsel. 8. Cardinals fan. total scumbag |
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Trumps does something especially asinine, TBD drags this thread and/or the 'Hilary is Done' thread back to the top of page. Guess it beats having to address the fact you support a man who sold the US out to the Russians...
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Donald Trump. has been sued more than 3500 times. Declared bankruptcy 6 times. Lied in court or in depositions more than 2 dozen times. Ran fraudulent charities Told the American people he never settles lawsuits when in fact has settled at least 100 times. Ran a fraudulent university cheating hundreds of students. Committed civil rights violations in housing Told the American people that he would release his taxes if nominated and never did. Had affairs with multiple women and paid off porn stars and lied about it. Accused of sexual assault and rape by almost a dozen women. Allegedly had Russian Prostitutes put on a golden shower show. Enriches himself and his family by violating the Emoluments clause. And Avenatti is the scumbag? Surely ye jest. You're the kind of guy that think your fiends should be free to recklessly abuse the law, but anyone else who comes close to the margins should be strung up. |
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Guys, we don't need to argue about this. They can all be scumbags.
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Checks in.
No contradiction of my post about Michael Avenati in the Michael Avenatti thread. No surprise |
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Why would we bother contradicting your childish name calling of Aveneti? No one here is the "fanboi" you claim we are. The only reason people bother to reply to you at all is to point out that the same things you hate Aveneti for, you seem to have no issues when Trump does. No one is dismissing your argument, you may very well be right. I think the point is, we don't care as long as he keeps exposing Trump's skeletons in his closet. I don't need to like Aveneti to respect what he's doing to Trump.
Basically, just like you, we're willing to overlook his shortcomings for the greater good. Just like you go quiet when Trump's ******** is brought up. |
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Well said.
![]() ![]() Avenatti is just a lawyer. He's not a Congress critter, Senator, President or in government in any way. So why should I care very much about his legal practice and business? Overall, he is irrelevant. The only question I have about Avenatti is if the information he has been bringing to light true? TBD is suggesting because Avenatti may not be the most ethical person, we should just dismiss any and all information about the President he brings forward. Fruit of the poisonous tree so to speak. The problem with that is the information is not about just some petty criminal. No, this is about the President of the United States. And TBD as a supporter of President Trump, he didn't seem to care that candidate Trump asked that a foreign government hack into and produce the emails of his opponent. |
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This week in sleaze:
1. Avenatti violates ethics rules by talking to Cohen and openly brags about it. 2. Avenatti goes on TV program and suggests that he will represent Cohen. 3. THEN goes on twitter and demands that Cohen release everything. protip: this ain't about Cohen, it is all about feeding Avenatti's monstrous ego. |
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Who said we don't care about Aveneti? I care about him in that he's releasing information that harms the president and exposes his lies. What I don't care about is how you've attempted to make this about everything Aveneti has done in his life that's shady. Maybe reading comprehension isn't working for you here so I wanted to clear this up.
I will speak only for myself, but I really do care about Aveneti. I'm glad he came around and has the sheer drive he does. I condemn the terrible things he's done, but I am able to separate the two. He's not my friend. |
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