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Old 8th February 2019, 12:40 PM   #41
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It doesn't have to be money, all it has to be is something of value, and not going to jail is something of value.

Also, as I pointed out in this post, they don't have to actually be found guilty in order for the agreement to collapse. All that is needed is for the prosecutors to see that they have committed a crime, and its game over.
It's impressive how much everyone in Trump' orbit loves committing crimes. AMI and Manafort's dedication to the task is second to none so far.
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Old 8th February 2019, 12:44 PM   #42
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Mmm. Report: Security team for Amazon chief believes a 'government agency' may have hacked Bezos.
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Why not? It seems to be clear criminal blackmail to me.
From all the legal eagles discussing this last night,they would have grounds to indict AMI, but proving criminal blackmail in a court of law would be tricky; you have to prove they would have carried out the threat and were not just putting pressure on Bezos.
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Gee, looks like Trumpy want to be like Richard Nixon in every way possible.
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From all the legal eagles discussing this last night,they would have grounds to indict AMI, but proving criminal blackmail in a court of law would be tricky; you have to prove they would have carried out the threat and were not just putting pressure on Bezos.
A few back issues of National Enquirer would be proof enough of what kind of material it prints. It had already published its investigation of Bezos' affair to embarrass him. The plaintiff doesn't have to prove what the defendant might do in the future; it only has to prove that the threat was believable when it was made.

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A few back issues of National Enquirer would be proof enough of what kind of material it prints. It had already published its investigation of Bezos' affair to embarrass him. The plaintiff doesn't have to prove what the defendant might do in the future; it only has to prove that the threat was believable when it was made.
That would be my first thought, but apparently it's not so easy. I suspect the defendants would plead something like "we were not serious about carrying out the threat.we were just putting some pressure on" or something like that. (I will have to ask my sister who is an practicing attorney about that).
But it sort of irrevelent;just being indicted would be enough for AMI's immunity deal to be cancelled;and the Federal Prosecutors are definently investigating Bezos's charges.
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That would be my first thought, but apparently it's not so easy. I suspect the defendants would plead something like "we were not serious about carrying out the threat.we were just putting some pressure on" or something like that. (I will have to ask my sister who is an practicing attorney about that).
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What makes you think "just putting on pressure" is okay? The pressure is the threat. If somebody points a gun at you, they don't get to say later "Ah, but it wasn't really loaded," or "It was just a replica." The National Enquirer has a long history of actually doing what it threatened to do.
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That would be my first thought, but apparently it's not so easy. I suspect the defendants would plead something like "we were not serious about carrying out the threat.we were just putting some pressure on" or something like that. (I will have to ask my sister who is an practicing attorney about that).
But it sort of irrevelent;just being indicted would be enough for AMI's immunity deal to be cancelled;and the Federal Prosecutors are definently investigating Bezos's charges.

Show your sister this letter from AMI lawyer Jon Fine to Bezos' lawyer, and ask her if making such an overt threat is sufficient to bring him up in front of the Bar Association on charges of Professional Misconduct...


From: Fine, Jon [jfine@amilink.com] (Deputy General Counsel, AMI)
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 5:57 PM
To: Martin Singer (Mr de Becker’s attorney)
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL* RE: Bezos et al / American Media et al

Marty -

Here are our proposed terms:

1. A full and complete mutual release of all claims that American Media, on the one hand, and Jeff Bezos and Gavin de Becker (the “Bezos Parties”), on the other, may have against each other.

2. A public, mutually-agreed upon acknowledgment from the Bezos Parties, released through a mutually-agreeable news outlet, affirming that they have no knowledge or basis for suggesting that AM’s coverage was politically motivated or influenced by political forces, and an agreement that they will cease referring to such a possibility.

3. AM agrees not to publish, distribute, share, or describe unpublished texts and photos (the “Unpublished Materials”).

4. AM affirms that it undertook no electronic eavesdropping in connection with its reporting and has no knowledge of such conduct.

5. The agreement is completely confidential.

6. In the case of a breach of the agreement by one or more of the Bezos Parties, AM is released from its obligations under the agreement, and may publish the Unpublished Materials.

7. Any other disputes arising out of this agreement shall first be submitted to JAMS mediation in California

Thank you,

Jon

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American Media, LLC



To me, this appears to be a direct, overt threat to publish if Jeff Bezos doesn't do exactly the specific things that AMI demands. If Pecker and the National Enquirer are going to take aim at Jeff Bezos, their aim had better be very, very good. No other individual in the world would be better resourced clean Pecker's clock.
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That would be incredible, think how many people that would have involved like Snowden's ex-co-workers.

But the more likely hypothesis is Sanchez's brother who is a Trumper might have leaked the texts. That makes for ****** family relations but not a government spying on citizens scandal.
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A guide to AIM's liability:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...blackmail.html

The Enquirer is the original supermarket tabloid. I suspect it wouldn't cost Bezos much to persuade the distributors who stock the supermarket magazine racks to just stop carrying it. After all, there's no law requiring stores to sell the Enquirer.
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Fun thought, the US uses other countries like the UK to eavesdrop on US domestic communications and the US reciprocates listening in to citizens of other countries, not just suspected terrorists (came out during the GW years). And there's a Saudi connection here. Do you supposed the Saudis might be tapping in to Bezo's cell phone?

Just a thought, not something that is evidence backed.
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Fun thought, the US uses other countries like the UK to eavesdrop on US domestic communications and the US reciprocates listening in to citizens of other countries, not just suspected terrorists (came out during the GW years). And there's a Saudi connection here. Do you supposed the Saudis might be tapping in to Bezo's cell phone?

Just a thought, not something that is evidence backed.
Others have raised the same question. The Saudis are offended that the Post keeps demanding answers about their murder of its columnist.
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Blackmail is in legal terms usually wider than purely being about obtaining money, it's the attempt to force someone to do something by way of a threat of exposure.

I really can't see how this isn't out and out criminal blackmail.
Well, under Federal law, it is not blackmail...

Originally Posted by 18 U.S. Code § 873. Blackmail
Whoever, under a threat of informing, or as a consideration for not informing, against any violation of any law of the United States, demands or receives any money or other valuable thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
... unless taking photos of your own penis is illegal in the USA.

Under New York Law, it's not blackmail.

Originally Posted by PEN § 135.60 Coercion in the second degree
A person is guilty of coercion in the second degree when he or she compels or induces a person to engage in conduct which the latter has a legal right to abstain from engaging in, or to abstain from engaging in conduct in which he or she has a legal right to engage, or compels or induces a person to join a group, organization or criminal enterprise which such latter person has a right to abstain from joining, by means of instilling in him or her a fear that, if the demand is not complied with, the actor or another will:

[bullet points irrelevant to this case snipped]

5. Expose a secret or publicize an asserted fact, whether true or false, tending to subject some person to hatred, contempt or ridicule;  

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It would have been blackmail had they succeeded in shutting up Bezos, but as things stand, it is only a failed attempt at blackmail. I don't know US law, but attempted blackmail is probably also illegal, I would guess.

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If this turns out to be correct, and Trump had anything to do with it, then it is huge, and I mean huge. Just on its own, this has the potential to be as serious as Watergate or Trump/Russia.

The President of the United States directing a covert agency to hack into the cellphone of a private citizen and then passing that information to his personal friend so that the friend's gutter rag can make political capital for Trump against that private citizen who happens to own a newspaper that Trump doesn't like because it publishes unpleasant and inconvenient truths about him.

Anyone remember the Milly Dowler phone hacking scandal? I seem to recall that it did not end well for the "News of the World"
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Well, under Federal law, it is not blackmail...

Under New York Law, it's not blackmail.
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Who says so?
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First, AMI’s emails pretty plainly satisfy the elements of federal extortion, 18 U.S.C. §875(d), which prohibits transmitting a communication in interstate commerce “containing any threat to injure the … reputation of the addressee” in order to extort “money or other thing of value.” The emails are in interstate commerce. The threat was to Bezos’ reputation. AMI might argue that it wasn’t demanding a “thing of value,” but under federal law, that’s almost certainly wrong.

The term thing of value extends to intangibles and even to things without any transferrable monetary worth, like cessation of a criminal prosecution, continuation of a sexual relationship, or even an apology. The demand that Bezos refrain from attributing political motive to AMI could itself be a “thing of value.” But even if that were not the case, a release of potential legal claims plainly is a thing of economic value. So it appears that AMI, as a corporate entity; Fine, its lawyer; and anyone within the corporation who approved Fine’s demands could potentially be charged with felony extortion.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...blackmail.html
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Well, under Federal law, it is not blackmail....
Ahem...
18 U.S.C. §875
(d) Whoever, with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another or the reputation of a deceased person or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...blackmail.html

"The emails are in interstate commerce. The threat was to Bezos’ reputation. AMI might argue that it wasn’t demanding a “thing of value,” but under federal law, that’s almost certainly wrong.

The term thing of value extends to intangibles and even to things without any transferrable monetary worth, like cessation of a criminal prosecution (US v Myers), continuation of a sexual relationship (US v Petrovic), or even an apology (US v Hobgood). The demand that Bezos refrain from attributing political motive to AMI could itself be a “thing of value.” But even if that were not the case, a release of potential legal claims plainly is a thing of economic value. So it appears that AMI, as a corporate entity; Fine, its lawyer; and anyone within the corporation who approved Fine’s demands could potentially be charged with felony extortion."



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It's impressive how much everyone in Trump' orbit loves committing crimes. AMI and Manafort's dedication to the task is second to none so far.
It's more that they have been brought up in a culture which hammers home time and time again that rules are for other people and someone will clear up any mess you make.
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A guide to AIM's liability:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...blackmail.html

The Enquirer is the original supermarket tabloid. I suspect it wouldn't cost Bezos much to persuade the distributors who stock the supermarket magazine racks to just stop carrying it. After all, there's no law requiring stores to sell the Enquirer.
Much as I hate the Enquirer and its tactics and hope that Bezos or anyone else can drive a stake through their corporate heart, I hope that this is not how they do it.

It's fine if Bezos makes a case that retailers agree with, and fine if he can convince them that joining him will be good public relations, but beyond that he strays right into the territory of those he's fighting. Using economic power to enact a de facto law where no law exists is a dangerous road to head down.
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DW (EU News) is suggesting or speculating the Saudis might have hacked the texts.
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DW (EU News) is suggesting or speculating the Saudis might have hacked the texts.
Is "DW"; Deutsche Welle?
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HuffPost also used that headline, and I think it was earlier. I guess they both owe copyright royalties to Stacko.
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Much as I hate the Enquirer and its tactics and hope that Bezos or anyone else can drive a stake through their corporate heart, I hope that this is not how they do it.
100% agree.

If Bezos were to do this, then he would be lowering himself to their gutter press standards. That isn't the way to deal with lowlife scum like Pecker.
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HuffPost also used that headline, and I think it was earlier. I guess they both owe copyright royalties to Stacko.
I wonder if the National Enquirer will use it??
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I wonder if the National Enquirer will use it??
Enquiring Minds Want To Know....
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DW (EU News) is suggesting or speculating the Saudis might have hacked the texts.
Fits in with AMI publishing that glossy full color travel magazing plugging Saudi Arabia as a tourist spot.
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Show your sister this letter from AMI lawyer Jon Fine to Bezos' lawyer, and ask her if making such an overt threat is sufficient to bring him up in front of the Bar Association on charges of Professional Misconduct...


From: Fine, Jon [jfine@amilink.com] (Deputy General Counsel, AMI)
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 5:57 PM
To: Martin Singer (Mr de Becker’s attorney)
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL* RE: Bezos et al / American Media et al

Marty -

Here are our proposed terms:

1. A full and complete mutual release of all claims that American Media, on the one hand, and Jeff Bezos and Gavin de Becker (the “Bezos Parties”), on the other, may have against each other.

2. A public, mutually-agreed upon acknowledgment from the Bezos Parties, released through a mutually-agreeable news outlet, affirming that they have no knowledge or basis for suggesting that AM’s coverage was politically motivated or influenced by political forces, and an agreement that they will cease referring to such a possibility.

3. AM agrees not to publish, distribute, share, or describe unpublished texts and photos (the “Unpublished Materials”).

4. AM affirms that it undertook no electronic eavesdropping in connection with its reporting and has no knowledge of such conduct.

5. The agreement is completely confidential.

6. In the case of a breach of the agreement by one or more of the Bezos Parties, AM is released from its obligations under the agreement, and may publish the Unpublished Materials.

7. Any other disputes arising out of this agreement shall first be submitted to JAMS mediation in California

Thank you,

Jon

Deputy General Counsel, Media

American Media, LLC



To me, this appears to be a direct, overt threat to publish if Jeff Bezos doesn't do exactly the specific things that AMI demands. If Pecker and the National Enquirer are going to take aim at Jeff Bezos, their aim had better be very, very good. No other individual in the world would be better resourced clean Pecker's clock.
Oh it looks like direct threat to me,but I am not an attorney.
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Every time I see an idiot buying a tabloid (N.Enquirer, Sun, Star, etc.) at the check out line, I cringe. They are aiding and abetting in the salacious, hurtful, and harmful actions that are the meat and potatoes of tabloids. Shame on them.
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Is "DW"; Deutsche Welle?
What does that translate to? It's English language news from Germany

Comcast cancelled my RT news but there is still France 24 and DW. It repeats a lot so isn't really 24 hours but there is a lot more news than CNN.
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HuffPost also used that headline, and I think it was earlier. I guess they both owe copyright royalties to Stacko.
In fairness it was a low hanging fruit.
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"Pecker" is probably the best right-winger name going now. Larry Pratt has the second best.
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Every time I see an idiot buying a tabloid (N.Enquirer, Sun, Star, etc.) at the check out line, I cringe. They are aiding and abetting in the salacious, hurtful, and harmful actions that are the meat and potatoes of tabloids. Shame on them.

The thing is that people don't have to buy them to be influenced by them. Everybody standing in line who reads "Hillary Born on Mars!" or "Trump Sent by God!" goes away with a seed planted in his head.
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There are 37,000 supermarkets in America, with an average of about 10 checkout stands each, and many stands feature a wire rack displaying the Enquirer, the Globe, often the company’s other tab, the National Examiner, and celebrity magazines. According to an industry study, American households make an average of 1.5 trips to the supermarket each week. Every customer passes by the checkout stand, which means that even people who never purchase a tabloid still absorb the ambient headlines, and those headlines can shape their view of the world.
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Old 8th February 2019, 09:31 PM   #73
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100% agree.

If Bezos were to do this, then he would be lowering himself to their gutter press standards. That isn't the way to deal with lowlife scum like Pecker.
Not necessarily. It's no infringement on freedom of the press for a store to decide what it wants to sell. Suppose he just encouraged supermarket news distributors to make their offerings more family friendly, and gave them subsidies to replace the tabloids with appropriate children's and teen publications. The distributors could choose what's best for their bottom line. After all, the supermarket stands don't usually include Penthouse or Hustler, but if you want them you can buy them elsewhere. I would imagine the actual profit from tabloids for Safeway or Kroger is pretty trivial.

Of course, Bezos could go another route:
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I don't understand why it bugs Pecker so much to be accused of using the Enquirer for political purposes. So what if he is? It's his newspaper; he can publish what he wants for whatever reason he wants. Is it big news that publishers sometimes have a political agenda that guides their coverage? You could probably say the same thing about Bezos.

Not having read a lot on the subject, I don't know if this has been addressed in media reports or on this thread. What does Pecker care? Is he afraid he's going to lose his credibility? He doesn't have all that much to begin, plus, his readers probably don't mind that he uses the tabloid to puff up Trump.

So I think there must be something else going with Pecker, something much more damaging that he wants to contain. Maybe related to Saudi Arabia? Something outright criminal?

And an aside: I don't quite understand why people text pictures of their genitals. I understand a nice sexy pose, but a selfie of a penis wouldn't do it for me.
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I don't understand why it bugs Pecker so much to be accused of using the Enquirer for political purposes. So what if he is? It's his newspaper; he can publish what he wants for whatever reason he wants.
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The issue isn't just what the Enquirer prints, but how it obtains information.
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Could it be that Bezos investigators or his newspaper are about to show that Trump and his associates assigned the tab to probe his private life—or helped it obtain the salacious pictures—and that they’re about to show how the exposé was accomplished? One major hint that Bezos’ people might think the Enquirer used electronic surveillance in obtaining the pictures appears in the Enquirer lawyer’s pitch for a resolution of his company’s complaint: He affirms that American Media “undertook no electronic eavesdropping.” I had no suspicions that the Enquirer might have hacked Bezos until its lawyer brought up the topic.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...nquirer-224933

There is also speculation that AMI has explicitly done Trump's bidding in exchange for some unknown benefit. That not what anybody usually means when they talk about editorial independence.
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What makes you think "just putting on pressure" is okay? The pressure is the threat. If somebody points a gun at you, they don't get to say later "Ah, but it wasn't really loaded," or "It was just a replica." The National Enquirer has a long history of actually doing what it threatened to do.
It's been noted before that what the law "should" be and what the law "is" are frequently not one and the same. As a person who's not a legal expert, I can very much say that this "should" be illegal, regardless.

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That would be incredible, think how many people that would have involved like Snowden's ex-co-workers.

But the more likely hypothesis is Sanchez's brother who is a Trumper might have leaked the texts. That makes for ****** family relations but not a government spying on citizens scandal.
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Fun thought, the US uses other countries like the UK to eavesdrop on US domestic communications and the US reciprocates listening in to citizens of other countries, not just suspected terrorists (came out during the GW years). And there's a Saudi connection here. Do you supposed the Saudis might be tapping in to Bezo's cell phone?

Just a thought, not something that is evidence backed.
"Government." That technically doesn't have to be the US government, even if that would be the usual implication in a case like this. With that said, Sanchez' brother doing it isn't far-fetched. That does beg the question, though. Why, exactly? Would there happen to be a conspiracy with AMI to defraud Bezos there and would it be criminal?

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AMI. I don't think they're quite as criminal as AIM, but it is an amusing slip.

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If this turns out to be correct, and Trump had anything to do with it, then it is huge, and I mean huge. Just on its own, this has the potential to be as serious as Watergate or Trump/Russia.

The President of the United States directing a covert agency to hack into the cellphone of a private citizen and then passing that information to his personal friend so that the friend's gutter rag can make political capital for Trump against that private citizen who happens to own a newspaper that Trump doesn't like because it publishes unpleasant and inconvenient truths about him.

Anyone remember the Milly Dowler phone hacking scandal? I seem to recall that it did not end well for the "News of the World"
That's a big if, of course, but... yeah, it would be huge. Except on many right wing news sources.

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What does that translate to? It's English language news from Germany

Comcast cancelled my RT news but there is still France 24 and DW. It repeats a lot so isn't really 24 hours but there is a lot more news than CNN.
I would guess "German Wave." ETA: Mmm. Looks like Wikipedia agrees.
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Why not?
...because of the things he explained in the thread I linked.
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What does that translate to? It's English language news from Germany


Comcast cancelled my RT news but there is still France 24 and DW. It repeats a lot so isn't really 24 hours but there is a lot more news than CNN.
I was just wondering.

I used to be an avid short-wave radio listener back the the day, and Deutsche Welle was one of the radio stations I used to listen to. This was when Germany was still divided into West and East; and they were the West German national radio station.

They would always begin their broadcasts with a few bars of Beethoven's "Fidelio Op 72" played on a glockenspiel, followed by the announcement "Heir ist der Deutshe Welle die senden von der Bundesrepublik Deutschland" (loosely "This is Deutsche Welle, the broadcast of the Federal Republic of Germany")
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I don't understand why it bugs Pecker so much to be accused of using the Enquirer for political purposes..
Because if he or AMI has committed a crime in doing so, then their non-prosecution agreement with SDNY is toast. AMI and/or Pecker can then be prosecuted for all the things that were previously covered by that non-prosecution agreement (including campaign finance felonies in the "catch and kill" on the Stormy Daniels/Karen McDougal stories). Remember, they have admitted to assisting Cohen and Individual 1 (who we know is Trump) to commit these crimes, and everything they have voluntarily given and admitted to SDNY in the prosecution of Cohen can then be used against them in evidence.

If that happens, you can stick a fork in Pecker; he's done.... he'll be sharing a cell with Michael Cohen...
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They would always begin their broadcasts with a few bars of Beethoven's "Fidelio Op 72" played on a glockenspiel, followed by the announcement "Heir ist der Deutshe Welle die senden von der Bundesrepublik Deutschland" (loosely "This is Deutsche Welle, the broadcast of the Federal Republic of Germany")

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