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Old 13th August 2019, 01:13 PM   #161
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Trump isnít going to order mass shootings.

But there's a question of whether he'll object to them.

Trump laughs when a supporter at a rally suggests shooting immigrants.
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Old 13th August 2019, 01:13 PM   #162
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Originally Posted by Giz View Post
II think that the term Concentration Camp is a deliberate attempt to reference Nazism.
Well the good news is words have meaning outside of what you think about them.
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Old 13th August 2019, 01:25 PM   #163
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Trump is a morally deplorable wretch. However, he has not done anything to appreciably make the USA fascist or destroy the constitution or democracy.
He's not succeeding but he is trying and talking. He implemented corporate advisory boards. He's suggested the US should try a dictatorship more than once. He's attempted to undermine confidence in elections by lying about voter fraud. He's inflamed racism.

And he leads a party where half the membership could support postponing elections.
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Old 13th August 2019, 01:41 PM   #164
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Calling attention to concentration camps is not an invocation of Nazism. Such camps are not unique to Hitler and co. The US operated a concentration camp for Americans of Japanese descent during WWII.
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Old 13th August 2019, 01:54 PM   #165
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Originally Posted by Giz View Post
I was responding to JoeMorgue, when he said:
"Jesus ******* Christ do we have to wait until the mass shootings start or are we gonna get "Well technically they aren't using Lugers..." for that too? "
My mistake.


Originally Posted by Giz View Post
I think that the term Concentration Camp is a deliberate attempt to reference Nazism
Or, it could be a reference to concentration camps which are, in themselves, a bad thing.


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Trump is a morally deplorable wretch. However, he has not done anything to appreciably make the USA fascist or destroy the constitution or democracy.
  • Authoritarianism.
  • Focus on national purity/vilifying a powerless minority in society
  • Obstruction of justice.
  • Vilifying the free press.
  • Defying the separation of powers by ignoring and obstructing Congressional oversight.
And none of these are one-offs. Can you say that Trump is not doing these things?
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Old 13th August 2019, 02:33 PM   #166
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Originally Posted by Giz View Post
Really? ďConcentration campsĒ is not a dog whistle?
That's... not how a "dog whistle" works.
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Old 13th August 2019, 02:39 PM   #167
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Originally Posted by Giz View Post
I think that the term Concentration Camp is a deliberate attempt to reference Nazism
I will go against the grain and agree with you here. AOC was not hoping that her supporters would read her tweets and think about the Boer War or Japanese Internment. The words were chosen deliberately for effect.

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Which is a ridiculous comparison (unless just about every government in the world are Nazis... which seems to devalue the term)
...and here you can tell us about the camps that "just about every government in the world" has constructed to hold their would-be asylum seekers. I expect you to name at least 180 countries. Use spoiler tags if your post gets too long.


ETA - holy crap, I just realized what thread I am posting in. Pour some out for NoahFence and Andrew Brietbart.

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Old 13th August 2019, 03:44 PM   #168
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Old 13th August 2019, 10:12 PM   #169
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Originally Posted by Armitage72 View Post
Originally Posted by Giz View Post
Trump isnít going to order mass shootings.
But there's a question of whether he'll object to them.

Trump laughs when a supporter at a rally suggests shooting immigrants.

At this point, Fox & POTUS inspire mass shootings ...
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Old 14th August 2019, 03:05 AM   #170
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Originally Posted by dann View Post
Oh, thatís just locker room rally talk. Nobody takes that seriously. Except those who do, but thatís AOC-Hilaryís fault.
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Old 14th August 2019, 04:49 AM   #171
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Originally Posted by Giz View Post
Really? ďConcentration campsĒ is not a dog whistle?
I only care whether it's accurate, and it is.

Nobody said they were extermination camps, either. Is that a hidden message? Stop twisting yourself into salted pretzels to avoid agreeing with liberals on something.
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Old 14th August 2019, 04:50 AM   #172
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Originally Posted by Giz View Post
The USA is not in an emergency.
Tell Trump that.
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Old 16th August 2019, 02:56 AM   #173
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Mass hysteria has infected a supposedly skeptical forum.

Trump isnít going to order mass shootings. The USA is not in an emergency. This is akin to the right wing nuts who thought Obama was going to turn the USA into a communist dictatorship.
Thank you.
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Old 16th August 2019, 03:32 AM   #174
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Yeah, great. Trump isnít Hitler, but that doesnít mean that the things that Trump is actually doing arenít really bad things that resemble early stage fascism.

The comparison to Obama and communism isnít even close to equivalent. Arguably, Obamaís biggest achievement was passing the ACA which, at its core, utilized privately owned insurance companies in what was intended to be a marketplace venue. The closest incident you could find of communism is when the government took over the running of General Motors, rather than let it go out of business. However, that was only a temporary situation and the company was quickly back in non-government ownership.

Trumpís actions, words, and policies, on the other hand, edges towards fascism and has continually done so since before the election. Yes, that should be concerning.
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Old 16th August 2019, 04:16 AM   #175
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Originally Posted by Giz View Post
Mass hysteria has infected a supposedly skeptical forum.



Trump isnít going to order mass shootings. The USA is not in an emergency. This is akin to the right wing nuts who thought Obama was going to turn the USA into a communist dictatorship.
The president of the USA disagrees with your assessment that the USA is not in an emergency.
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Old 16th August 2019, 04:57 AM   #176
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Originally Posted by Upchurch View Post
  • Authoritarianism.
  • Focus on national purity/vilifying a powerless minority in society
  • Obstruction of justice.
  • Vilifying the free press.
  • Defying the separation of powers by ignoring and obstructing Congressional oversight.
And none of these are one-offs. Can you say that Trump is not doing these things?
I would add crapping on the emoluments clause of the Constitution.
Spending over a quarter of his time in Trump owned properties where he charges the USSS for rooms and food, scheduling meetings with foreign leaders at Trump properties, doing business with the Saudis and then siding with the Saudis over US intelligence agencies (and Jared giving classified info to the Saudis), sending over 100 tweets referencing one or more of his properties, etc, etc, etc.
Literally telling people to ignore what they read and believe only what he says.

Youíve already mentioned defying separation of powers, but it applies to the judicial branch, as well. After SCOTUS said no to the citizenship question the president insisted that he would do it anyway (at least until the adults in the room told him he could not do that).

Giving Jared a top secret security clearance after he left business dealings off his repeated applications. (He has since had his security clearance pulled.)
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Old 19th August 2019, 10:14 AM   #177
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Breitbart is one of the very few sources of non-fake news in this country.
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Breitbart is one of the very few sources of non-fake news in this country.
Right up there with Alex Jones, wouldn't you say?
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Right up there with Alex Jones, wouldn't you say?
Might be the main source of news for Trumpets, now that Donnie and Fox News seem to be at odds.
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Breitbart is one of the very few sources of non-fake news in this country.
Well, THAT explains a lot.
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Old 20th August 2019, 03:45 PM   #181
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Breitbart is one of the very few sources of non-fake news in this country.
That might be true if you just mean the opposite of what Donnie calls "fake news" -- i.e. what our descendants will call "history" -- in which case it's definitely not a compliment.
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