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Old 5th July 2019, 10:21 AM   #1481
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Jason Colavito reviews America Unearthed's bigfoot episode, and our friend M.K. Davis shows up.
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Old 10th July 2019, 10:00 PM   #1482
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Originally Posted by ChrisBFRPKY View Post
I'd like to read more about you life experiences in Alaska. You should write a book. Share your wilderness experiences with those in the lower 48. I'd buy one as I enjoy reading your posts/experiences.

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Sorry I am in and out. Out of cell phone range or internet in Alaska and Philippines for months at a time.

I did write a book. The first agent I sent sample chapters to just loved it, I rescued some people on Mt. McKinley with some friends, saved their lives, a lot of bush piloting stuff, endless bear stories. A couple chapters in the Amazon. Siberia. The Golden Triangle.

So the agent told me one thing though, to market it to publishers I had to take all the stuff out about flying stoned, strippers and general thumbing of my nose at the law, thousands of hours piloting without a license and all.

I said no, that's the way it happened. I have been jailed three times that I can remember, and to me that was WAY better than summer camp - people just do not understand how a person like me thinks, lol. These are bona fides in certain circles.

I may give it a go again, I need to do some research on who likes a more Hunter S. Thompson type hue on things. Sorry to the more sensitive among us. But it sure as hell has been fun.
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Old 10th July 2019, 10:08 PM   #1483
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ABP, thanks for the experiences. It's so clear from your experiences that man rules the wilderness. But, we don't need a snow machine, or a bulldozer, or a 30-06 to do that. It reminds me of BFF, where I would explain to the Blargers that Man has been hunting giant dangerous animals for hundreds of thousands of years.
Oh for sure, Drew.

I have a collection of artifacts. Like bone tools, whale hunting paraphenalia in umiaks, long before the Europeans came.

60 tons is a pretty good sized whale for a few guys in a walrus skin boat. Not only hundreds of times bigger than bigfoot, but in the water.

It's why the distortion of their traditions is so obscene. Because they had real monsters. The Innuit, whale hunters, did use a "stickman" or "bushman" for example, to keep the kids scared from wandering away from camp. Or you leave bad kids outside to be carried off by him.

The dishonest bigfoot peddlers like to commandeer that sort of tradition and claim it is evidence for a sasquatch.
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Old 18th July 2019, 08:30 AM   #1484
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Has anyone else noted the shift in image from big hairy scary beast to deep woodlands rescue service and coffee socials? Several recent YouTube titles hint at Bigfoot family saves canoers or sets down with them for berry and bark socials.

Still all after the fact testimony as Bubba forgot his camera again and Maybell want to protect the creatures out of respect.

They still don't understand the " show me the monkey " part.
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Old 23rd July 2019, 03:49 PM   #1485
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Does Bigfoot "bark"?

They are asking themselves that question over on the BFF. Many already believe that Bigfoot can mimic other animals. So mimicking a dog or coyote bark is something on the table.

Well, this guy got recordings of a mystery "bark" coming from the deep Oregon wilderness.

It's an American bullfrog. LOL!

https://bigfootforums.com/topic/6893...bf-bark/page/3
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Old 24th July 2019, 09:34 PM   #1486
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Does Bigfoot "bark"?...
I bet his pets do. By an act of some compassionate, random gawd there appeared a thread at the old BFF called "Does Bigfoot Have Pets?". People actually posted in there contemplating it. We're debating Roger Patterson The Con Man™ and there's CuckHerman and BoyWonder over there blitz posting on Bigfoot's pets. BIGFOOT'S PETS! So anyway that was the proverbial straw-camel-blah-blah and all I could take of the Bigfoot nonsense at the BFF.

And yes, if somebody starts a thread here called "Does Bigfoot Have Pets?" I'm outta here too. FYI in case somebody really hates me.
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Old 25th July 2019, 05:19 AM   #1487
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Why do you think it is a stretch?

If you think Bigfoot is real, what is the leap to think that Bigfoot has companions?

It speaks samurai like humans.
It buries it's dead. (Or eats them) like humans.
It covers it's tracks like humans.
It hucks giant rocks like humans.
It bangs wooden sticks against trees like humans.
It crushes nuts at a nut-crushing station like humans.
It climbs trees like humans.
It can sense game-cams like humans.
It likes canned beans like humans.
It can run through dense trees on the side of the road chasing after mopeds like humans.
It has big floppy boobs like humans.
It likes Good N Plenty like humans.
It hurls pigs like humans.
It lays down like a log near human cabins, for no reason, like humans.
It shakes bushes menacingly at humans with high powered rifles, like humans.

Why such a big leap to think they maintain a menagerie of pets?
I think there are probably Bigfoot out there who have humans AS PETS.
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Old 25th July 2019, 05:44 AM   #1488
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Originally Posted by Drewbot View Post
Why do you think it is a stretch?

If you think Bigfoot is real, what is the leap to think that Bigfoot has companions?

It speaks samurai like humans.
It buries it's dead. (Or eats them) like humans.
It covers it's tracks like humans.
It hucks giant rocks like humans.
It bangs wooden sticks against trees like humans.
It crushes nuts at a nut-crushing station like humans.
It climbs trees like humans.
It can sense game-cams like humans.
It likes canned beans like humans.
It can run through dense trees on the side of the road chasing after mopeds like humans.
It has big floppy boobs like humans.
It likes Good N Plenty like humans.
It hurls pigs like humans.
It lays down like a log near human cabins, for no reason, like humans.
It shakes bushes menacingly at humans with high powered rifles, like humans.

Why such a big leap to think they maintain a menagerie of pets?
I think there are probably Bigfoot out there who have humans AS PETS.
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Old 25th July 2019, 11:23 AM   #1489
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Originally Posted by Drewbot View Post
It speaks samurai like humans.
Doesn't the guy who claims to understand bigfoot language and translated the "samurai chatter" actually claim that they speak English? Or some kind of simplified version of it, at least. It's been a while since I looked into that area of bigfootery, but I remember watching something from him on youtube and laughing my ass of when I realized "wait a minute, that's not a translation, he's saying that gibberish is actually English." IIRC, he was claiming that they're speaking way faster than humans normally do and his transcriptions were simplistic in a way that people think cavemen and Tarzan spoke, but he was claiming those types were full on conversations in English.
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Old 25th July 2019, 11:26 AM   #1490
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Originally Posted by ArchSas View Post
Doesn't the guy who claims to understand bigfoot language and translated the "samurai chatter" actually claim that they speak English?
You know, I don't follow the bigfoot stuff very closely. Back in the day it was just some sort of manlike ape... now it's a dimension-shifting, english speaking super-being. Every few years I check back and the damned thing's developed some new ability.



And still nothing beyond blurry pictures. That's its primary ability.
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Old 25th July 2019, 11:35 AM   #1491
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
You know, I don't follow the bigfoot stuff very closely. Back in the day it was just some sort of manlike ape... now it's a dimension-shifting, english speaking super-being. Every few years I check back and the damned thing's developed some new ability.



And still nothing beyond blurry pictures. That's its primary ability.
It has been mentioned before - blurry is not an ability, that is what it actually looks like.
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Old 25th July 2019, 12:14 PM   #1492
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
You know, I don't follow the bigfoot stuff very closely. Back in the day it was just some sort of manlike ape... now it's a dimension-shifting, english speaking super-being. Every few years I check back and the damned thing's developed some new ability.



And still nothing beyond blurry pictures. That's its primary ability.
The guy's name is Scott Nelson. I found the video I was thinking of, it's a whole presentation at a bigfoot conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22zVZUJesCA

Randomly skipping around, I came to a great part (at around 28:00) where he talks about the dangers of "cognates" and reading too much of your own language into audio (cognate as a term refers to words with the same origin, I think he actually means false friend; within a few minutes of this, it isn't the only time he makes a mistake in using linguistic terminology). Shortly after that, he clearly declares the language is English, then switches to playing clips, repeating what he thinks he hears, and explaining what's being "said" in English. I just skipped around randomly a little after that; it gets weird.

Just for some background on the presenter, Scott Nelson promotes himself by listing his credentials a crypto-linguist in the Navy. Based on the few profiles I've seen of him, it seems like he wants people to infer that he's a linguistic expert that was trained in mysterious things, like cryptids. I guess I can understand that, as the job title does look a lot like "cryptid linguist," but it's actually a lot more mundane than that. The job is just how the military classifies translators that work in intelligence (the "crypto" come from cryptography, as they work with recordings and codes), and based on how he misuses basic linguistic terms, I don't think he's mad much education in formal linguistics. But I guess because he's worked as a translator, he can do the fantastic job of discovering that bigfoot actually speaks... English. The whole thing is weirdly fascinating to me, probably because of how well it encapsulates everything about bigfootery (fake experts, obliviousness, getting way too much meaning from noise, coming up with nonsense conclusions and being certain about it, etc.).

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Old 25th July 2019, 12:46 PM   #1493
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Does Bigfoot "bark"?

They are asking themselves that question over on the BFF. Many already believe that Bigfoot can mimic other animals. So mimicking a dog or coyote bark is something on the table.

Well, this guy got recordings of a mystery "bark" coming from the deep Oregon wilderness.

It's an American bullfrog. LOL!

https://bigfootforums.com/topic/6893...bf-bark/page/3
It's not a bullfrog. It's a bigfoot mimicking a bullfrog.
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Old 25th July 2019, 12:55 PM   #1494
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I hear a couple of Common Nighthawks, 2 idiots, and maybe a Hermit Thrush. Is there some special place in those 6:43 where I can zoom in and crank up the volume to hear a barkfrog?
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Old 25th July 2019, 01:57 PM   #1495
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I hear a couple of Common Nighthawks, 2 idiots, and maybe a Hermit Thrush. Is there some special place in those 6:43 where I can zoom in and crank up the volume to hear a barkfrog?
They ask "what was that?" right after the sound that they say is a bark. You might need to crank the volume but the sound is there for sure. I hear a male bullfrog making his call. "Garuumm" It's a single deep and resonant tone coming from his large throat sac. It's all bass. "Garooow" It's a sound that can carry. They are recording in a canyon with a stream at the bottom. Not far from them is a big male bullfrog. They catch several of his single calls which are given to attract females and also to lay claim to territory.
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Old 27th July 2019, 03:19 PM   #1496
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Originally Posted by Drewbot View Post
Why do you think it is a stretch?

If you think Bigfoot is real, what is the leap to think that Bigfoot has companions?

It speaks samurai like humans.
It buries it's dead. (Or eats them) like humans.
It covers it's tracks like humans.
It hucks giant rocks like humans.
It bangs wooden sticks against trees like humans.
It crushes nuts at a nut-crushing station like humans.
It climbs trees like humans.
It can sense game-cams like humans.
It likes canned beans like humans.
It can run through dense trees on the side of the road chasing after mopeds like humans.
It has big floppy boobs like humans.
It likes Good N Plenty like humans.
It hurls pigs like humans.
It lays down like a log near human cabins, for no reason, like humans.
It shakes bushes menacingly at humans with high powered rifles, like humans.

Why such a big leap to think they maintain a menagerie of pets?
I think there are probably Bigfoot out there who have humans AS PETS.
Okay fine, you win.
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Old 31st July 2019, 01:49 PM   #1497
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Camper: Alleged Bigfoot sighting prompts gunfire at park:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/wireSto..._headlines_hed
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Old 1st August 2019, 02:29 AM   #1498
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Those headlines were a bit misleading. Here's the local story on WBKO:

https://www.wbko.com/content/news/A-...513405181.html

Both parties reported hearing "strange noises". No arrests were made and something is currently under investigation. Note: Though it is legal to carry a firearm in the park, it is illegal to discharge a firearm within the boundaries of Mammoth Cave National Park.

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Old 1st August 2019, 09:57 AM   #1499
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I hear a couple of Common Nighthawks, 2 idiots, and maybe a Hermit Thrush. Is there some special place in those 6:43 where I can zoom in and crank up the volume to hear a barkfrog?
I changed my mind. The "bark" isn't a bullfrog - it's the "dive boom" mating sound made by the male Common Nighthawk. As a birder you've probably heard this before. It's a sound made with the wings and not the voice.

Here is the "Bigfoot bark" recording. Listen for the sound at 0:47 and at 2:24. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tw8...3APq4V8L-/view

Here is a YouTube video showing the male doing the dive booming. You hear the sound at 0:12, 0:21, 0:39 and at 0:52 you see the dive and hear the sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aHlV7syK1Q

Another YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-_CDXH9qhY

Wikipedia on the Common Nighthawk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_nighthawk
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I thought I saw Bigfoot!
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Another report on the Kentucky incident.

https://start.att.net/news/read/arti.../category/news

Bigfoot nut shoots into total darkness in Mammoth Cave park...

They are going to hit someone sooner or later.

They are delusional about bigfoot, so I wonder if police will start to think about the gun rights of these people. Especially if they keep shooting at things no one else can see.
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Not to mention that this idiot apparently only had a small pistol that fit in a pocket, which would be ineffective against an extra large primate, but very effective against the poor folks camping near him.
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When visiting Kentucky, please don't shoot at the Big Monkey Man.

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Not to mention that this idiot apparently only had a small pistol that fit in a pocket, which would be ineffective against an extra large primate, but very effective against the poor folks camping near him.
The Bigfooters hated it when I would quote Ionides and explain that the early African hunters thought the gorillas died embarrassingly easily. They should be more difficult to kill, however, they die so easily they are embarrassed to hunt them.
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Not to mention that this idiot apparently only had a small pistol that fit in a pocket, which would be ineffective against an extra large primate, but very effective against the poor folks camping near him.
The small pistol wouldn't be a good idea to use against a bear either, and if something actually "tore up a campsite", it's pretty likely that it was a bear.
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The NAWACers wrote a white paper about their radio tag 'spearmint.

http://woodape.org/images/stories/fi...ces%20ver2.pdf

Their conclusion . . .
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After due consideration, no candidate of indigenous wildlife, feral species, or domestic
livestock appears likely to have been responsible for the observations summarized in this
report.
Footie dun it.
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Someone in NAWAC to landowners:
"Hey, we put a couple of radio tags in the basecamp, if you wouldn't mind staying away from there for a few days..."

landowner to friends:
"Hey, you want to go mess with some of those Bigfooters I told you about?"

friends:
"GIDDYUP!"
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Do you remember the provenance of this photo? I had it saved in my Images

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https://bigfootforums.com/topic/6903...o-many-people/
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I've always been interested in Bigfoot and I believe it exists. I even started a podcast on the topic. However, I'm always concerned when I bring up the topic to people because I know most of them will think I'm nuts. I have converted a lot of friends over the years but it still seems like it is a joke to most people. What are your thoughts on this?
What, you're serious?
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Do you remember the provenance of this photo? I had it saved in my Images.
Well it looks like a photocopy of a newspaper article. Is your question concerning what newspaper it's from or, where you may have found it on the web?
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Bigfoot believers and Bigfoot skeptics are both plumb crazy. Each spends more than one minute per year thinking about Bigfoot.
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