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AE911truth has stated that the Plasco building was 17 stories and a high-rise. So that’s that.
What's next. “At approximately 11: 30 AM local time yesterday in Tehran, an iconic 17-storyhigh-rise known as the Plasco Building tragically collapsed after being on fire for some 3 ½ hours.” http://www.ae911truth.org/images/PDF...20_2017_v2.pdf |
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For anyone who IS interested in a constructive discussion, there seems to have been issues separate from the fire higher in the building, at the lower SW corner, where you can see the firefighters have entered. There is definitely structural damage, and you can see hose laid out in typical firefighting fashion. The internal picture (which I can't find the link for now, but have saved) I think shows the part of the mall where the tower is tied in and the damage internally. I am trying currently to establish the validity of reports of firefighters on the 3rd floor, and exactly what the cause of the damage at that point of the building was.
This is distant from the fires in the upper storeys and there does not appear to be much smoke/fire damage in the picture taken from the inside. Certainly I have no hesitation in admitting that this damage is raising suspicion in my mind at the moment until I can establish exactly what the cause was. There was no natural gas etc in this building, so I have ruled that out. |
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Might be completely irrelevant, depending on what pictures you are speaking of. The mall is not in the Plasco building proper (within the footprint of the 17-floor[*] highrise) but in a low building adjacent to it.
[*] 1 basement floor, 1 ground floor, 15 above ground floor, according to this Persian language article (Google translation here) |
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We are all aware that quite often murders are committed in a house or car and it is set on fire in an attempt to obscure and cover up the true nature of the crime. If investigators did not have an autopsy performed, and simply said there was a fire and the person had to die from fire, they would not be doing their jobs.
An investigation needs to look at the possibilities and do a forensic examination. In the case of a steel framed building that would mean examining the steel before coming to a conclusion, just like a body would be autopsied, even if there was a fire where the person was found. |
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Yes but the mistake could have been caused by the limited information from Iran, about the building do the the chaos and Destruction of documents during the revolution.
Many government offices and state building were torched when the Islamic Revolution took place. If records are scetchy mistakes can be made and not be caught for years even decades. |
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So, as I asked some time ago, this damage at the bottom right of the building in the bottom pic at this site here is puzzling. Does anyone have any thoughts as to the cause ?
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How can you tell from the photo that there is any damage to the Plasco building in the lower right hand corner of the pic? Even if you zoom the photo to 100% size, it's too small to tell.
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