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22nd January 2017, 05:25 PM | #201 |
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Exactly Tony, yes.
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lol. that is one stretch of a strawman.
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22nd January 2017, 05:31 PM | #209 |
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Focusing on details while missing the big picture is the core and foundation of the failure that your past eight years have been.
DGM's question "why" is spot on: Why would Old Coarse Guy need the number of storeys, rather than the number of windows, thickness of walls, color of carpets or chirality of stairs? |
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So what?
If this is a highrise according to Sunder's alleged definition (which you pulled out of the blue sky, I believe), then his alleged statement remains true: the WTC events are unprecedented as highrise collapses. Has a little something to do with the meaning of the word "precedent". Do you know what the prefix "pre-" means? |
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Sniff, sniff
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It was 17 stories and 42 meters high
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I may be old and coarse, but my memory is apparently still ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IkiLxdn-5Q @32s Shyam Sunder says "this is the first time that we are aware of that a building over seven....fifteen storeys tall, has collapsed primarily due to fire." |
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I looked at various articles and some said 17 stories and others 15. When counting the stories above ground in photos it is 15.
The story height is important and if 42 meters (137.76 feet) is right then 17 stories can't work as it is only 8.12 feet per story. I am looking at this collapse with a critical eye and engineers usually worry about details when doing analyses. I don't see how it is hypocritical at all. |
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well it is 17 stories.
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I count 16 in this photo: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...anbul_intc.jpg
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Who counts basements as stories?
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I count (at least) 15 storeys above ground.
This matters how? What would be importantly different if it had 17 or 14 storeys? |
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Tony:
I'll give you a pass if you're a Packers fan and drunk............ |
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