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6th March 2017, 09:54 AM | #3281 |
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12 days after Tony ran away from here, and 6 days after he capitulated in the email discussion with me, he had the Chuzpah to go on Twoof Radio with his shtick:
http://911freefall.com/22317-tony-sz...plasco-report/ (I did not actually listen to a single second of this, but would appreciate if someone could at least clock the Time to 1st Lie) |
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6th March 2017, 05:36 PM | #3282 |
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7th March 2017, 12:44 PM | #3283 |
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No. He most definitely cannot count on "plausible deniability". I asked him, publicly in this thread and privately in email conversation, part of which I documented here, many many times:
Is it at all possible to literally "pull out" metal that is literally "molten" (meaning "liquid")?He refused to answer this simple Yes/No question tooth and nail. The relevant information here is that he did NOT answer "yes, it is possible at least to literally pull out liquid metal", which documents, loudly and clearly, that Tony is 100% aware that a literal interpretation of the phrase describes something impossible. He insists in interpreting "molten" literally as "liquid", when other meanings are in the dictionary, such as "red hot, glowing"; while at the same time taking liberties with the interpretation of "pull out". He is most clearly on record as blatantly dishonest on this. |
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7th March 2017, 03:13 PM | #3284 |
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There are guys out there who use a very loose definition of "pull out".
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18th March 2017, 01:56 PM | #3285 |
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18th March 2017, 02:37 PM | #3286 |
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WOW, Idiots prove they are idiots.
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19th March 2017, 08:23 AM | #3287 |
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Let me get this straight....
Ae911 thinks the tehran building collapse was caused by explosives? |
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19th March 2017, 08:39 AM | #3288 |
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...........don't forget the magic "thermite".......
http://www.ae911truth.org/news/349-n...co-report.html |
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19th March 2017, 08:55 AM | #3289 |
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Yes - or perhaps they pretend they think it was another inside demolition job.
You see, they painted themselves in a corner when they decided to put their religious faith into a global claim: "No steel-framed highrise can ever collapse due to fire". They supported this global claim with anecdotal evidence: They observed that "no other steel-framed highrise has ever collapsed from fire" - this is anecdotal, as it rests only in the finite set of steel-framed highrises that experienced major fires. The problem is: You cannot prove a global claim with a limited number of examples. You can however, disprove a global claim with a single refuting example. And this has happened now: The Plasco building is one example of a steel-framed highrise that collapsed from fire. This single example disproves the global AE911Truth claim that "no steel-framed highrise can ever collapse due to fire". Since they are not interested in scientific knowledge but defending a religious faith, they find themselves forced to reject the refuting evidence, and pretend that it was not the fires that brough the Plasco down. |
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19th March 2017, 12:13 PM | #3290 |
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Let's not forget the desperate attempt to disqualify this building as a "high-rise". Many post here were wasted counting floors to show it qualified to an arbitrary number of 15 floor to be a "high-rise".
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19th March 2017, 08:25 PM | #3291 |
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I think that's what they're doing. Your post makes perfect sense to me.
I predict that these claims will be significantly detrimental to AE911Truth's influence on people 'on the fence' about 911 CD, like I was. For a long time I was confused enough about the twin towers and building 7 so as to not be able to make a decision regarding the validity of the controlled demolition claims, and was influenced by the professional support of what appeared to be a credible organization (AE911Truth). But it is just so unbelievably obvious that there is no reason to consider explosives at the Plasco building, that AE911Truth's claiming there is makes their agenda very clear, even to me. "They are playing a game. They are playing at not playing a game." - R.D.Laing, 'Knots' |
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20th March 2017, 01:27 PM | #3292 |
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11th April 2017, 07:02 AM | #3293 |
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The Iranian government has reportedly released the investigation report. The headline is that the Iranian experts concluded that fire was the sole cause of the collapse, though a lack of proper inspections may have lead to unsafe conditions that exacerbated the effects of the fires. Here are the key excerpts from the linked article:
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As of the time of my posting of this update, AE911Truth has not publicly commented on the release of this report. Tony's been in hiding for months after embarrassing himself so thoroughly in this thread, but, Tony, we'd love to hear your thoughts after you put your name on that ridiculous AE911Truth report just a few months ago. Did you not provide the Iranians with your incredibly flawed calculations of a cube of molten metal in a vacuum? |
11th April 2017, 07:34 AM | #3294 |
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Does this mean that the Iranian government was also part of the 9/11 conspiracy now?
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11th April 2017, 01:09 PM | #3295 |
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Well, if the conspirators wanted to make the AE911Truth groupees looks like even bigger idiots, they couldn't have picked a better country in which to stage such a collapse, rig an investigation, and laugh all the way to the next caper. Watch the news for fires in Venezuela and North Korea; these conspirators will apparently spare no effort or expense in their dastardly, multi-decade plot to make the world believe that Tony Szamboti is laughably wrong and has wasted 15+ years of his life!
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11th April 2017, 02:16 PM | #3296 |
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I would like to see Tony and AE911Truth comment on the latest developments.
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11th April 2017, 02:56 PM | #3297 |
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Mehr News Agengy, right - it's Iranian state propaganda.
(Never stopped truthers from favoring PressTV, of course ) While searching for other articles from Iran, I found this article on the end of the rubble removing operation, 9 days after the collapse: http://en.farsnews.com/imgrep.aspx?nn=13951109001186 Has some good photos of the mall building and the flimsy remainders of the Plasco, cleaned from rubble and dust. Perhaps helpful for those looking for clues of the collapse mechanism. |
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11th April 2017, 03:20 PM | #3298 |
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How do you say "flat debris pile at GZ" in Farsi.
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11th April 2017, 03:29 PM | #3299 |
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23rd April 2017, 09:47 AM | #3300 |
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Here is an English-language blog and tag from Iran, apparently, to follow news on the Plasco incident:
http://theiranproject.com/blog/tag/p...ding-collapse/ |
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23rd April 2017, 10:21 PM | #3301 |
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4th March 2019, 10:13 AM | #3302 |
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Duh, Im a perp.
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