ISF Logo   IS Forum
Forum Index Register Members List Events Mark Forums Read Help

Go Back   International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics
 


Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today.
Tags donald trump , Trump administration , Trump controversies

Closed Thread
Old 10th February 2019, 12:00 PM   #4041
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
 
smartcooky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Nelson, New Zealand
Posts: 11,393
Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
@Captain_Swoop, May I suggest a signature for you: "pearl diving in the cesspit, so you don't have to"
Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer View Post
That may just be your perception due to the agony of the stupid-burn you're inflicting on yourself by posting Trump's tweets. (Way to take one for the team BTW)
Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer View Post
I appreciate being able to keep up with his crap without massaging his ego by adding to his follower numbers.
I wonder if Captain Swoop's efforts would qualify for an episode of "Mike Rowe's Dirty Jobs" or CNN's "Somebody's Gotta Do It"?
__________________
#THEYAREUS
The Mueller Report must be released to Congress in full - If Trump has nothing to hide, then he should also have nothing to fear!
smartcooky is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 12:51 PM   #4042
P.J. Denyer
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,334
Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
I wonder if Captain Swoop's efforts would qualify for an episode of "Mike Rowe's Dirty Jobs" or CNN's "Somebody's Gotta Do It"?
If you ask me it's on a par with digging out the London Fatburg with a plastic motorway services teaspoon.
__________________
"I know my brain cannot tell me what to think." - Scorpion

"Nebulous means Nebulous" - Adam Hills
P.J. Denyer is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:02 PM   #4043
Minoosh
Philosopher
 
Minoosh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 9,003
Quote:
Gallup asked the whole population of Latin America.
I doubt that, I bet it was a sample.

Trump's tweet:
Quote:
Gallup Poll: “Open Borders will potentially attract 42 million Latin Americans.” This would be a disaster for the U.S. We need the Wall now!
Why is he saying "will potentially attract" and "would be a disaster"? Isn't his position that the U.S. has open borders now? It seems like anything short of a wall he considers to be "open borders."

Last edited by Minoosh; 10th February 2019 at 03:04 PM.
Minoosh is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:06 PM   #4044
Skeptic Ginger
Nasty Woman
 
Skeptic Ginger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 73,408
Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
I doubt that, I bet it was a sample.

Trump's tweet:
Why is he saying "will potentially attract" and "would be a disaster"? Isn't his position that the U.S. has open borders now? It seems like anything short of a wall he considers to be "open borders."
It's hard to keep track of fake threats.
__________________
Restore checks and balances no matter your party affiliation.
Skeptic Ginger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:14 PM   #4045
Captain_Swoop
Penultimate Amazing
 
Captain_Swoop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 20,321
Trump lied and said auto manufacturers are "already moving factories back to the United States".

Reuters reports.

Since the start of the year GM alone has closed four US factories and laid off 4,500 workers.

Instead they invested $3 BILLION in factories in Brazil.
Captain_Swoop is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:18 PM   #4046
Captain_Swoop
Penultimate Amazing
 
Captain_Swoop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 20,321
Trump Tweets

The media was able to get my work schedule, something very easy to do, but it should have been reported as a positive, not negative. When the term Executive Time is used, I am generally working, not relaxing. In fact, I probably work more hours than almost any past President.....

....The fact is, when I took over as President, our Country was a mess. Depleted Military, Endless Wars, a potential War with North Korea, V.A., High Taxes & too many Regulations, Border, Immigration & HealthCare problems, & much more. I had no choice but to work very long hours!
Captain_Swoop is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:22 PM   #4047
Captain_Swoop
Penultimate Amazing
 
Captain_Swoop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 20,321
Trump Tweets

“President is on sound legal ground to declare a National Emergency. There have been 58 National Emergencies declared since the law was enacted in 1976, and 31 right now that are currently active, so this is hardly unprecedented.” Congressman @tommcclintock

The Border Committee Democrats are behaving, all of a sudden, irrationally. Not only are they unwilling to give dollars for the obviously needed Wall (they overrode recommendations of Border Patrol experts), but they don’t even want to take muderers into custody! What’s going on?

Last edited by Captain_Swoop; 10th February 2019 at 03:23 PM.
Captain_Swoop is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:24 PM   #4048
Norman Alexander
Philosopher
 
Norman Alexander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 5,205
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump lied and said auto manufacturers are "already moving factories back to the United States".

Reuters reports.

Since the start of the year GM alone has closed four US factories and laid off 4,500 workers.

Instead they invested $3 BILLION in factories in Brazil.
Trump stopped caring about his "moving back" statement just a few seconds after he finished saying it. And since then, he hasn't given a crap because it doesn't affect him personally.
__________________
...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015
Norman Alexander is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:24 PM   #4049
Captain_Swoop
Penultimate Amazing
 
Captain_Swoop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 20,321
Trump Tweets

Well, it happened again. Amy Klobuchar announced that she is running for President, talking proudly of fighting global warming while standing in a virtual blizzard of snow, ice and freezing temperatures. Bad timing. By the end of her speech she looked like a Snowman(woman)!
Captain_Swoop is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:29 PM   #4050
Captain_Swoop
Penultimate Amazing
 
Captain_Swoop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 20,321
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Club for Growth

Feb 6
Agreed! Senate needs to confirm @realDonaldTrump Admin appointees. #SOTU
WE AGREE! The time is now! "The time has come to pass school choice for America's children." - @realDonaldTrump #SOTU
Captain_Swoop is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:30 PM   #4051
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
 
dudalb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 43,809
Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
Kurt Schlichter is a conservative author that has risen in prominence due to his over the top enthusiasm for Trump. Chapo Trap House has done some hilarious readings of his dystopian fantasies.
If I had a name like Kurt Schlichter, I would not be so quick to make jokes about Genocide.......
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty.

Robert Heinlein.
dudalb is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:32 PM   #4052
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
 
dudalb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 43,809
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

Well, it happened again. Amy Klobuchar announced that she is running for President, talking proudly of fighting global warming while standing in a virtual blizzard of snow, ice and freezing temperatures. Bad timing. By the end of her speech she looked like a Snowman(woman)!
hey, that is a nice,balmy day for Minnesota in Winter....
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty.

Robert Heinlein.
dudalb is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:33 PM   #4053
Skeptic Ginger
Nasty Woman
 
Skeptic Ginger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 73,408
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

The media was able to get my work schedule, something very easy to do, but it should have been reported as a positive, not negative. When the term Executive Time is used, I am generally working, not relaxing. In fact, I probably work more hours than almost any past President.....

....The fact is, when I took over as President, our Country was a mess. Depleted Military, Endless Wars, a potential War with North Korea, V.A., High Taxes & too many Regulations, Border, Immigration & HealthCare problems, & much more. I had no choice but to work very long hours!
Does anyone still doubt this man is mentally ill?
__________________
Restore checks and balances no matter your party affiliation.
Skeptic Ginger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:35 PM   #4054
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
 
dudalb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 43,809
Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I can well imagine what Andrew Jackson would think of Trump.
HW Brands, who a wrote a very good biography of Old Hickory, wrote an article expliaing why Jackson would have despised Trump.
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty.

Robert Heinlein.
dudalb is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:35 PM   #4055
Norman Alexander
Philosopher
 
Norman Alexander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 5,205
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Club for Growth

Feb 6
Agreed! Senate needs to confirm @realDonaldTrump Admin appointees. #SOTU
WE AGREE! The time is now! "The time has come to pass school choice for America's children." - @realDonaldTrump #SOTU
Is he responding to a comment from five days ago?? And who is he agreeing with? Someone he is watching on TV just now?
__________________
...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015
Norman Alexander is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 03:53 PM   #4056
Captain_Swoop
Penultimate Amazing
 
Captain_Swoop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 20,321
It's someone else's tweet ge just read is my guess.
It's probablyhiw he soends his executive time.
Captain_Swoop is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 04:11 PM   #4057
snoop_doxie
Graduate Poster
 
snoop_doxie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: In my reality tunnel
Posts: 1,484
Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Does anyone still doubt this man is mentally ill?
No, I do not doubt he has a very serious personality disorder.
He almost seems proud of his ability to avoid facts if they disagree
with his world view.

He sounds panicky now.

I'll go to the thread about his mental health to ask my question.
__________________
Formerly known as member wicked_ways
snoop_doxie is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 04:12 PM   #4058
Norman Alexander
Philosopher
 
Norman Alexander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 5,205
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
It's someone else's tweet he just read is my guess.
It's probably how he spends his executive time.
Still makes NO sense at all. But then, look who he is.

"Executive time". Yeah, right. More likely he is still trying to run real estate deals, think up excuses for his latest gaffes on TV, and round up the few remaining lawyers who are unscrupulous enough to try to wipe his own **** off his shoes defend his multiple suits in courts across the country.
__________________
...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015
Norman Alexander is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 04:59 PM   #4059
Ladewig
I lost an avatar bet.
 
Ladewig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 26,383
Republicans are arguing that it is wrong to look at President Trump’s tax returns.


Rep. Jackie Walorski, R., Indiana: tantamount to "weaponizing our tax laws to target a political foe."

“Pascrell was talking about hypocrisy. I'll tell you the Democrats are anything but hypocritical," Republican Rep. Tom Rice of South Carolina. "They love to weaponize the IRS, aka Lois Lerner, and now going after the president's tax returns."
__________________
I lost an avatar bet to Doghouse Reilly.

Last edited by Ladewig; 10th February 2019 at 05:01 PM.
Ladewig is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 05:10 PM   #4060
JoeMorgue
Self Employed
Remittance Man
 
JoeMorgue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 17,540
Jesus Christ can the tribes do anything but accuse the other side of being a hypocrite?

Hypocrisy isn't the only, greatest, and most unforgivable sin.
__________________
- "Ernest Hemingway once wrote that the world is a fine place and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part." - Detective Sommerset
- "Stupidity does not cancel out stupidity to yield genius. It breeds like a bucket-full of coked out hamsters." - The Oatmeal
- "To the best of my knowledge the only thing philosophy has ever proven is that Descartes could think." - SMBC
JoeMorgue is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 05:14 PM   #4061
Skeptic Ginger
Nasty Woman
 
Skeptic Ginger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 73,408
Originally Posted by snoop_doxie View Post
...

I'll go to the thread about his mental health to ask my question.
Trump mental health thread
__________________
Restore checks and balances no matter your party affiliation.
Skeptic Ginger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 06:21 PM   #4062
Stacko
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 10,837
Ranking Republican on House Foreign Affairs Committee, Michael McCaul, states Trump Administration isn't following the law with respect to Magnitsky Act regarding Jamal Khashoggi's murder.

Quote:
Lead Republican McCaul: “I am deeply troubled by the letter I received from the Administration regarding the brutal murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi.

“The letter does not meet the requirements of the “Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act”, which were invoked by letters from the bipartisan leaders of the House and Senate foreign policy committees last October.

“Jamal’s murder was appalling. The lesson of this terrible event needs to be that intimidation and violence by any government against peaceful dissent will be met with strong disapproval by responsible nations. Everyone involved in this gruesome crime must be identified and held accountable. When the United States fails to lead, we compromise our integrity and abandon those pursuing justice around the world.

“I call on the Administration to immediately comply with the requirements of the law, and to provide Congress with the information required.”
Stacko is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 06:24 PM   #4063
Silly Green Monkey
Cowardly Lurking in the Shadows of Greatness
 
Silly Green Monkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 4,627
Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Jesus Christ can the tribes do anything but accuse the other side of being a hypocrite?

Hypocrisy isn't the only, greatest, and most unforgivable sin.
When the office is predicated on promises, and requires social networking, hypocrisy is the worst sin that *should* be committed. Of course there are more serious offenses like embezzlement, but there are laws for that. No law says a politician must meet all promises.
__________________
Normal is just a stereotype.
Silly Green Monkey is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 08:07 PM   #4064
a_unique_person
Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning
 
a_unique_person's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open.
Posts: 40,101
Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Jesus Christ can the tribes do anything but accuse the other side of being a hypocrite?



Hypocrisy isn't the only, greatest, and most unforgivable sin.
It's the easiest target since both sides do it.
__________________
Continually pushing the boundaries of mediocrity.
Everything is possible, but not everything is probable.
For if a man pretend to me that God hath spoken to him supernaturally, and immediately, and I make doubt of it, I cannot easily perceive what argument he can produce to oblige me to believe it. Hobbes
a_unique_person is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 08:55 PM   #4065
Minoosh
Philosopher
 
Minoosh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 9,003
Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
"Executive time". Yeah, right. More likely he is still trying to run real estate deals, think up excuses for his latest gaffes on TV, and round up the few remaining lawyers who are unscrupulous enough to try to wipe his own **** off his shoes defend his multiple suits in courts across the country.
I don't think there's a big shortage of unscrupulous lawyers - just a shortage of ones willing to commit professional suicide by being associated with Trump. It seems like truly a thankless job with no real upside that I can determine. Even getting paid is iffy.
Minoosh is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 08:56 PM   #4066
Norman Alexander
Philosopher
 
Norman Alexander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 5,205
Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
I don't think there's a big shortage of unscrupulous lawyers - just a shortage of ones willing to commit professional suicide by being associated with Trump. It seems like truly a thankless job with no real upside that I can determine. Even getting paid is iffy.
And if it's cash up front, it won't be his cash. It will be yours if he can wangle it, i.e. the taxpayer.
__________________
...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015
Norman Alexander is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 09:11 PM   #4067
Segnosaur
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 12,926
Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
Republicans are arguing that it is wrong to look at President Trump’s tax returns.


Rep. Jackie Walorski, R., Indiana: tantamount to "weaponizing our tax laws to target a political foe."
The problem with that argument is that it ignores all the special circumstances surrounding Trump and his tax returns:

- His broken campaign promise and lies... "I will release my taxes but can't now because of the audit"

- His failure to either divest himself of his corporation, or at least use a proper blind trust

- Multiple investigations into Trump and his corporation... emoluments, Russia, etc.

Because of these particular issues, Trump's tax returns deserve additional scrutiny
__________________
Trust me, I know what I'm doing. - Sledgehammer

I'm Mary Poppin's Y'all! - Yondu

We are Groot - Groot
Segnosaur is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 09:22 PM   #4068
newyorkguy
Penultimate Amazing
 
newyorkguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NY
Posts: 10,004
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump lied and said auto manufacturers are "already moving factories back to the United States".

Reuters reports. Since the start of the year GM alone has closed four US factories and laid off 4,500 workers.

Instead they invested $3 BILLION in factories in Brazil.
This is what scares me the most about Donnie. He's an idiot. For instance, not too many years ago he was still bragging about how great his casinos were doing when one of the major banks that had loaned him a lot of money did an audit. Due diligence. They were shocked to find out, Trump's casinos were on the brink of financial collapse. Then they had a hard time convincing DonnieBoy that he was staring into a financial abyss. When someone like Rex Tillerson calls you an idiot, it's because YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

The Gallup poll. They claim to have "asked the whole population of Latin America...450 million adults" if they would like to emigrate to another country. Reportedly, of that number 120 million people said yes, they would like to emigrate. Of that number, 35% (or 42 million) said their first choice would be the U.S. Link to Gallup
newyorkguy is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 09:51 PM   #4069
Foolmewunz
Grammar Resistance Leader
TLA Dictator
 
Foolmewunz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pattaya, Thailand
Posts: 40,367
Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
This is what scares me the most about Donnie. He's an idiot. For instance, not too many years ago he was still bragging about how great his casinos were doing when one of the major banks that had loaned him a lot of money did an audit. Due diligence. They were shocked to find out, Trump's casinos were on the brink of financial collapse. Then they had a hard time convincing DonnieBoy that he was staring into a financial abyss. When someone like Rex Tillerson calls you an idiot, it's because YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

The Gallup poll. They claim to have "asked the whole population of Latin America...450 million adults" if they would like to emigrate to another country. Reportedly, of that number 120 million people said yes, they would like to emigrate. Of that number, 35% (or 42 million) said their first choice would be the U.S. Link to Gallup
Why would the head of a polling organization make such a statement when they could actually make a pretty good claim as far as sampling goes....notably, other than in tiny populations where they seem to have sampled 500 persons, they got answers from 1000 people in every country. That's a poll sample of over 20,000 and these were mostly face-to-face questioning. And compared to polls that ask 1500 people nationwide in the USA, the Gallup numbers are pretty good, albeit almost two years old.

(Notwithstanding that they could use some commercial know-how. You don't get an accurate survey of the real estate market by asking "Would you desire to move?" You get a worthless figure. When forecasting companies ask those questions they might ask the generic one, but further down, they get to the real "meat". Are You Currently Planning To (move, expand, purchase, etc...) In the Next Two Fiscal Years. )
__________________
Ha! Foolmewunz has just been added to the list of people who aren't complete idiots. Hokulele

It's not that liberals have become less tolerant. It's that conservatives have become more intolerable.

Last edited by Foolmewunz; 10th February 2019 at 09:54 PM.
Foolmewunz is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 10:20 PM   #4070
newyorkguy
Penultimate Amazing
 
newyorkguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NY
Posts: 10,004
It doesn't really make sense to me either but this was from their website (that I linked):
Quote:
Gallup asked the whole population of Latin America. There are 33 countries in Latin America and the Caribbean. Roughly 450 million adults live in the region. Gallup asked them, "Would you like to move to another country permanently if you could?" A whopping 27% said "yes." So this means roughly 120 million would like to migrate somewhere.

The next question Gallup asked was, "Where would you like to move?" Of those who want to leave their Latin American country permanently, 35% said they want to go to the United States.

The Gallup analytics estimate is that 42 million want to come to the U.S.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/chai...on-border.aspx
This is from a blog on the Gallup site, authored by Jim Clifton, their Chairman and CEO. Referring to himself as a US citizen, Clifton goes on to ponder the following:
Quote:
Rather than find a solution for the several thousand potential migrants currently at the border, let's start by answering the bigger, harder question -- what about the 42 million who would like to come? What is the message to those millions who will seek entrance either legally or illegally? What should we tell them?
newyorkguy is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 10:37 PM   #4071
Foolmewunz
Grammar Resistance Leader
TLA Dictator
 
Foolmewunz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pattaya, Thailand
Posts: 40,367
Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
It doesn't really make sense to me either but this was from their website (that I linked):


This is from a blog on the Gallup site, authored by Jim Clifton, their Chairman and CEO. Referring to himself as a US citizen, Clifton goes on to ponder the following:
Oh, I grokked who he is and I read the statement, a bit surprised that he actually said they interviewed everyone in Latin America. From there you can click-around and find the actual data, which is where I got the number polled in each country.

But the question is silly. "If you could..." doesn't say are you unhappy where you are? There are people, lots of them in many countries who feel tied to their jobs and families but who, if they could, might consider trying out a new country. If you asked that question about the fifty states, I bet a pretty large number would affirm, and then if asked where, Hawaii would probably tip over from the 35,000,000 Americans who'd like to "live there if I could". I was one of those people, once. There was no logistics work in Hawaii at the time, so it turned into "sorry, but I can't".

The more appropriate questions would be those that would determine just what restrictions most people see on the "if I could" part. I'd bet well over half of the affirmative responses have multiple reasons why they can't.
__________________
Ha! Foolmewunz has just been added to the list of people who aren't complete idiots. Hokulele

It's not that liberals have become less tolerant. It's that conservatives have become more intolerable.
Foolmewunz is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 10th February 2019, 10:40 PM   #4072
Norman Alexander
Philosopher
 
Norman Alexander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 5,205
I'm sure if you ask 1000 Americans where would they like most to live, at least 400 of them would want to live in Mar-a-Lago and be waited on hand and foot. That translates to something like 128 million Americans alone wanting to go there. Donny better think seriously about building MUCH higher walls around his property, plus a dome and laser cannons, than worry about 42 million Latin Americans arriving in the USA on one big boat.
__________________
...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015
Norman Alexander is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 11th February 2019, 02:32 AM   #4073
Captain_Swoop
Penultimate Amazing
 
Captain_Swoop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 20,321
Trump tweets

The U.S. will soon control 100% of ISIS territory in Syria. @CNN (do you believe this?).
Captain_Swoop is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 11th February 2019, 03:22 AM   #4074
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
 
smartcooky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Nelson, New Zealand
Posts: 11,393
Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
Republicans are arguing that it is wrong to look at President Trump’s tax returns.


Rep. Jackie Walorski, R., Indiana: tantamount to "weaponizing our tax laws to target a political foe."
Does it occur her that if Der Trumpenführer's tax returns are all correct and in order, they can't be weaponaized against him?

Does it occur to her that if Der Trumpenführer does not want to have Congress see his tax returns, it almost certainly means he has something to hide?
__________________
#THEYAREUS
The Mueller Report must be released to Congress in full - If Trump has nothing to hide, then he should also have nothing to fear!
smartcooky is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 11th February 2019, 03:28 AM   #4075
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
 
smartcooky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Nelson, New Zealand
Posts: 11,393
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump tweets

The U.S. will soon control 100% of ISIS territory in Syria. @CNN (do you believe this?).
Didn't he say a few weeks ago that ISIS were already defeated?
__________________
#THEYAREUS
The Mueller Report must be released to Congress in full - If Trump has nothing to hide, then he should also have nothing to fear!
smartcooky is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 11th February 2019, 03:34 AM   #4076
Belz...
Fiend God
 
Belz...'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: In the details
Posts: 81,537
Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
Republicans are arguing that it is wrong to look at President Trump’s tax returns.
Looking at their birth certificate, however, is just fine.
__________________
Master of the Shining Darkness

"My views are nonsense. So what?" - BobTheCoward


Belz... is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 11th February 2019, 04:20 AM   #4077
thaiboxerken
Penultimate Amazing
 
thaiboxerken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,971
Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Didn't he say a few weeks ago that ISIS were already defeated?
Yes, but he didn't say the ISIS territories were defeated..........
__________________
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power & profit - Thomas Paine
thaiboxerken is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 11th February 2019, 04:38 AM   #4078
Belz...
Fiend God
 
Belz...'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: In the details
Posts: 81,537
You have really got to love this guy. After it's been shown over and over that he spends most of his time not doing anything, he blatantly lies and says he works harder than anyone who ever lived (ok that's hyperbole, but not quite far from the mark.)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8772881.html
__________________
Master of the Shining Darkness

"My views are nonsense. So what?" - BobTheCoward


Belz... is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 11th February 2019, 04:57 AM   #4079
Captain_Swoop
Penultimate Amazing
 
Captain_Swoop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 20,321
Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Didn't he say a few weeks ago that ISIS were already defeated?
Surely he means Syria and Russia control it?
Captain_Swoop is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Old 11th February 2019, 05:42 AM   #4080
Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
 
Craig4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State.
Posts: 17,956
Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
This is the second time in recent days, Travis, you are sharing some nebulous crap with us from Twitter.

See that Tweet you linked to? Who the hell is the person they are quoting?

After all we know now about Russian bots spreading this crap around, why are you spreading it without a little checking?

Who are they quoting???????
He's a real Trump supporter, author and known traitor to his country, making many appearances in support of that thing defiling the Whitehouse.

What difference does it make? If you can make the broad brush coat all Trump supporters, why not do it? The blow can be below the belt; the only thing that matters is that the blow lands.
Craig4 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Back to Top
Closed Thread

International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:04 AM.
Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum began as part of the James Randi Education Foundation (JREF). However, the forum now exists as
an independent entity with no affiliation with or endorsement by the JREF, including the section in reference to "JREF" topics.

Disclaimer: Messages posted in the Forum are solely the opinion of their authors.