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Old 2nd January 2019, 05:04 AM   #121
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From some benighted Fox "News" page: "The White House has made it clear that top Democrats in Congress will be facing a difficult battle if they try to advance their agenda for re-opening the federal government from the partial shutdown
So wanting a normally functioning government is an "agenda," while Trump's useless and hyper-expensive boondoggle intended only to garner partisan support somehow is not. Wow. I expect to see such drivel in any third world backwater, but.... oh, right. Republicans.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 05:59 AM   #122
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Trump Tweets

Here we go with Mitt Romney, but so fast! Question will be, is he a Flake? I hope not. Would much prefer that Mitt focus on Border Security and so many other things where he can be helpful. I won big, and he didn’t. He should be happy for all Republicans. Be a TEAM player & WIN!
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Old 2nd January 2019, 06:09 AM   #123
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If someone made a documentary about this presidency, time-traveled and showed it to people, it would be deemed unbelievable. Critics would say that the evil villain president isn't a believable enough character and that people couldn't possibly be dumb enough to support/vote for him.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 06:34 AM   #124
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If someone made a documentary about this presidency, time-traveled and showed it to people, it would be deemed unbelievable. Critics would say that the evil villain president isn't a believable enough character and that people couldn't possibly be dumb enough to support/vote for him.
If you picked people at random, 40% would be supportive of it.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 06:35 AM   #125
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MSNBC: Trump is a runaway beer truck.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 07:02 AM   #126
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MSNBC: Trump is a runaway beer truck.
Brett Kavanaugh: Mmmm.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 07:33 AM   #127
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Mexico is paying for the Wall through the new USMCA Trade Deal. Much of the Wall has already been fully renovated or built. We have done a lot of work. $5.6 Billion Dollars that House has approved is very little in comparison to the benefits of National Security. Quick payback!
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Old 2nd January 2019, 07:34 AM   #128
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Suddenly it's almost complete and Mexico paid for it?

Then why does he need the $5bn that he has closed the Govt down over?
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Old 2nd January 2019, 07:45 AM   #129
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100% foolproof just means Trump can't figure out a way to get over it.
Trump couldn't figure his way out of a wet paper bag... Hmmm I wonder how much would it cost to get enough of them to cover 2,000 miles? Of course the cost would be in keeping them wet in some places and replacing them when they did catch an illegal immigrant.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 08:00 AM   #130
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Trump is kind of right about some things never changing, like the nature of walls. The majority of drugs from Mexico go through border checkpoints, not through clandestine crossing points, same as the way the Great Wall of China was vulnerable at its checkpoints and gates. The Mongols made it through garrisons and open gates; they didn't breach or cross the wall.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 08:03 AM   #131
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The internecine warfare within the GOP is going to ratchet up, considerably, IMHO. Potential protest candidates like Flake, Romney and Kasich are going to go after Trump and Trump's minions. Wildcards like Conway will take more of a theater of guerrilla operations approach.

Let the games begin. Trump may have to go for a thumb transplant. He can't let personal slights pass, so he'll be going after all of 'em.
You may be right.

Families will be torn apart!

Ronna McDaniel (née Romney), chair of the RNC:

"POTUS is attacked and obstructed by the MSM media and Democrats 24/7. For an incoming Republican freshman senator to attack @realdonaldtrump as their first act feeds into what the Democrats and media want and is disappointing and unproductive."

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Old 2nd January 2019, 08:05 AM   #132
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
If someone made a documentary about this presidency, time-traveled and showed it to people, it would be deemed unbelievable. Critics would say that the evil villain president isn't a believable enough character and that people couldn't possibly be dumb enough to support/vote for him.
You could travel back to 2014 and folk wouldn't believe it.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 08:11 AM   #133
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Didn't someone suggest Trump should just declare that the wall was built?
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Old 2nd January 2019, 08:45 AM   #134
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He should. This followers will believe anything he tells them.
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Trump Tweets

Here we go with Mitt Romney, but so fast! Question will be, is he a Flake? I hope not. Would much prefer that Mitt focus on Border Security and so many other things where he can be helpful. I won big, and he didn’t. He should be happy for all Republicans. Be a TEAM player & WIN!
There's Romney's first subject : actual border security and how best to enhance it. Actual drug interdiction, not a simplistic panacea. Effective measures, not a vanity project.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 09:30 AM   #136
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I think I know the problem: He reads "Fox and Friends" as "Facts and Friends".
He's still waiting for the actual fox to come on the show. But that's a good, patriotic fox, not like those people smuggling coyotes.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 09:37 AM   #137
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Trump couldn't figure his way out of a wet paper bag... Hmmm I wonder how much would it cost to get enough of them to cover 2,000 miles? Of course the cost would be in keeping them wet in some places and replacing them when they did catch an illegal immigrant.
Well, he couldn't figure his way onto a plane with an umbrella anyway.
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I won big, and he didn’t.
This is yet another example of Trump's grammar stepping on his argument. Trump won 46% of the popular vote for president, and Romney won 63% of the popular vote for his senate seat.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 10:17 AM   #139
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I agree with Romney that Trump has not risen to the mantle of the office.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 10:17 AM   #140
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It's funny, the last government shutdown was for 3.4 billion dollars over healthcare. The Republicans said we couldn't afford it.

Will someone please explain to me if they couldn't afford 3.4 billion dollars for healthcare, then how they can afford 5 billion for a damn wall?
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Old 2nd January 2019, 10:51 AM   #141
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And everyone with half a brain knows its not going to be 5 billion to complete the wall. It will be 20 or 30 billion at least.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 10:54 AM   #142
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Well, trump claims it's almost finished and Mexico paid.
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Here we go with Mitt Romney, but so fast!
I'm still trying to figure this one out. Was it supposed to be "but not so fast!"?
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If you picked people at random, 40% would be supportive of it.
Just to troll the other side, if nothing else.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 11:02 AM   #145
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I'm thinking maybe the Senate should just approve the $5 billion. Dems included. There's no way Trump is going to be effective at getting *anything* done for $5 billion. It will get eaten up in corruption.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 11:04 AM   #146
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This is yet another example of Trump's grammar stepping on his argument. Trump won 46% of the popular vote for president, and Romney won 63% of the popular vote for his senate seat.
In that case Romney won more of the popular vote for president than Trump did. Over a popular candidate. 47.2 percent according to what I just Googled.

EC different though.
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I'm thinking maybe the Senate should just approve the $5 billion. Dems included. There's no way Trump is going to be effective at getting *anything* done for $5 billion. It will get eaten up in corruption.
I disagree. The Dems cannot let Trump win. We can't have a government run by temper tantrums. It sets a bad precedent.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 11:10 AM   #148
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The Trump prophecy

What if you heard a Voice, different from your thinking voice, a Powerful Voice talking to you in the second person inside your head? Giving you details you’d never imagined about one of the most important events in the world? Would you listen? More importantly, if you’re a Christian, and live your life in accordance with your understanding of His will and purpose, what would it take to convince you that God had spoken to you?

Mark Taylor, a recently retired fireman; had this experience. Around 2 a.m. on the night of April 28, 2011, and unable to sleep he was channel surfing when he clicked on C-Span. The man on the screen was Donald Trump, and Mark had the premonition that he heard God say “You are hearing the voice of the next President.” Little did Mark know several dozen video recordings of others documented that they also got the same message and were equally convinced it came from God.

https://www.thetrumpprophecymovie.com/about
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Old 2nd January 2019, 11:33 AM   #149
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I disagree. The Dems cannot let Trump win. We can't have a government run by temper tantrums. It sets a bad precedent.
And there is no hope of compromise with someone who cannot understand the concept of compromise. The best Trump will offer is 'you agree to what I want and I might say nice things about how smart you were for agreeing with me'. Just to make matters worse as we've already seen Trump is perfectly capable of agreeing to something and then doing a complete 180 because somebody on 'Fox & Friends' says mean things about him.
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In that case Romney won more of the popular vote for president than Trump did.
LOL. Trump is the Twitter King of the Self-Owns.
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What if you heard a Voice, different from your thinking voice, a Powerful Voice talking to you in the second person inside your head? Giving you details you’d never imagined about one of the most important events in the world? Would you listen? More importantly, if you’re a Christian, and live your life in accordance with your understanding of His will and purpose, what would it take to convince you that God had spoken to you?
I am a Christian. If I heard a voice tell me that I should support a weak, degenerate, corrupt, ignorant, treasonous, immature, spiteful, racist, misogynist grifter for President, I would conclude that the voice was more likely that of Satan than God, and more likely the result of a neurological issue than either.

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Mark Taylor, a recently retired fireman; had this experience. Around 2 a.m. on the night of April 28, 2011, and unable to sleep he was channel surfing when he clicked on C-Span. The man on the screen was Donald Trump, and Mark had the premonition that he heard God say “You are hearing the voice of the next President.” Little did Mark know several dozen video recordings of others documented that they also got the same message and were equally convinced it came from God.

https://www.thetrumpprophecymovie.com/about
Wait, now I’m supposed to get my political and theological guidance from a fireman? I am a (volunteer) firefighter. Our motto is “strong backs, weak minds”.

A number of the guys and gals I ride with are Trump fans. I trust them with my life, but not with my democracy.
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In that case Romney won more of the popular vote for president than Trump did. Over a popular candidate. 47.2 percent according to what I just Googled.

EC different though.
Yes, but you're ignoring the millions of illegal aliens who were bused across the border to vote for Clinton!
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I disagree. The Dems cannot let Trump win. We can't have a government run by temper tantrums. It sets a bad precedent.
The Dems must keep saying no to the wall money, and make sure they are SEEN to be the ones trying to end the shutdown. If the Dems apply enough pressure, and keep it on, there will be Republicans who will crack, pressured by their own constituents to vote with them and overturn Der Trumpenführer's veto.

The deplorables will squeal like stuck pigs if that happens, but **** them. The US Government must not be held to ransom by the toddler in the WH throwing a temper tantrum because he's not getting his own way.
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The Dems must keep saying no to the wall money, and make sure they are SEEN to be the ones trying to end the shutdown. If the Dems apply enough pressure, and keep it on, there will be Republicans who will crack, pressured by their own constituents to vote with them and overturn Der Trumpenführer's veto.
20 Republican Senators are needed to overturn a veto. There are 7 Republicans from "purple" states: Flake, Scott, Rubio, Collins, Portman, Toomey, and Ron Johnson. Then there's the two from Utah, obviously Romney has set himself up to be the anti-Trump, the other Senator I'm not so sure about. But those 9 have one thing in common, they can go against Trump without too much worry about being primaried by a Trump thumping candidate. I could also see Lindsey Graham overriding Trump. But where do the other 10 Senators come from? They are all in Trumpistan. They'll have to put the good of the country above re-election.

ETA: Add Gardner from Colorado to that list. Maybe Murkowski from Alaska. So 8 or 9 names left to find.

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Old 2nd January 2019, 12:37 PM   #155
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I disagree. The Dems cannot let Trump win. We can't have a government run by temper tantrums. It sets a bad precedent.
I'm torn on this. Trump's whole term has been a bad precedent. Emotionally I agree with you; I don't want Trump to get a win either. But maybe we could really use $5 billion worth of upgrades to existing physical barriers. I was thinking maybe the legislation could be written in such a way as to allow actual security experts to decide what kind of barriers would be installed.

Trump won't admit it but he has had to walk back his "wall" rhetoric. Maybe they could allocate $5 billion, but stipulate that the barrier will be called a "fence."
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I am a Christian. If I heard a voice tell me that I should support a weak, degenerate, corrupt, ignorant, treasonous, immature, spiteful, racist, misogynist grifter for President, I would conclude that the voice was more likely that of Satan than God, and more likely the result of a neurological issue than either.

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For an "alternate" take on this movie, I would recommend "Goodnight Kevin's" YouTube review - lets just say he does not like it* ...

* Which is "normal" for him: even though he is a Christian, he has a dim view about most of the films directed towards his fellow believers...
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20 Republican Senators are needed to overturn a veto. There are 7 Republicans from "purple" states: Flake, Scott, Rubio, Collins, Portman, Toomey, and Ron Johnson. Then there's the two from Utah, obviously Romney has set himself up to be the anti-Trump, the other Senator I'm not so sure about. But those 9 have one thing in common, they can go against Trump without too much worry about being primaried by a Trump thumping candidate. I could also see Lindsey Graham overriding Trump. But where do the other 10 Senators come from? They are all in Trumpistan. They'll have to put the good of the country above re-election.

ETA: Add Gardner from Colorado to that list. Maybe Murkowski from Alaska. So 8 or 9 names left to find.
Or it could take just Mitch-the-Turtle to finally realise his whole ugly career is getting covered in excrement and publicly going down the toilet because he is supporting a tantrumming crackpot toddler in the White House screwing up the country over a really stupid and pointless idea. That he has picked entirely the wrong hill to die on. And that he can rescue himself only by getting the Repubs in the Senate to compromise.

But that's not likely. Is it.
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I disagree. The Dems cannot let Trump win. We can't have a government run by temper tantrums. It sets a bad precedent president.
FTFY so Trump can understand it.
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20 Republican Senators are needed to overturn a veto. There are 7 Republicans from "purple" states: Flake...
Tomorrow is Flake's last day as a Senator, and only part of it at that.

It might be a good point that any Senator elected or re-elected in the latest election will be in office as long as Trump regardless.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 01:09 PM   #160
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What if you heard a Voice, different from your thinking voice, a Powerful Voice talking to you in the second person inside your head? Giving you details you’d never imagined about one of the most important events in the world? Would you listen? More importantly, if you’re a Christian, and live your life in accordance with your understanding of His will and purpose, what would it take to convince you that God had spoken to you?

Mark Taylor, a recently retired fireman; had this experience. Around 2 a.m. on the night of April 28, 2011, and unable to sleep he was channel surfing when he clicked on C-Span. The man on the screen was Donald Trump, and Mark had the premonition that he heard God say “You are hearing the voice of the next President.” Little did Mark know several dozen video recordings of others documented that they also got the same message and were equally convinced it came from God.



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I'd say someone needs to talk to a professional mental health care worker.
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