Detax Canada - Page 24

Horatius · 30th November 2010, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Tolls

No, no no...
You don't understand.
I'm you.

Or are you me?

Maybe we're both Hans?

I'm a bit confused...maybe I should log out and log back in again.

It's simple, really....

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TSR · 30th November 2010, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by Tolls

No, no no...
You don't understand.
I'm you.

Or are you me?

Maybe we're both Hans?

I'm a bit confused...maybe I should log out and log back in again.

.
You are the Eggman, I am the Walrus.

Goo Goo ga Joob.

or is that Jew....
.

Paul · 30th November 2010, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by TSR

or is that Jew....
.

Must be. Muslim, communist, progressive or bankster don't rhyme

catsmate · 30th November 2010, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Kid Eager

Bother! My cutting riposte is wasted, as Eldon has left the building. After all, I am Australian and yes, our provinces *did* vote to adopt the Constitution that formed Australia.

I also love the way he answered my question with an answer to another question entirely. I guess that means I stay deluded and sheepled forevermore...

Well you are Australian

I'll miss Eldon, he was a fascinating addition to my collection of loons and my attempt to develop a system for categorising such people.

D'rok · 16th December 2010, 08:00 AM

Bumpity bump.

Good old Eldon has shown up on the WFS forums and is in fine form. The best part is that he's too crazy even for the FOTLers on WFS. Grab a coffee and enjoy:

http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org...=6526&start=80

Tolls · 16th December 2010, 08:15 AM

I like his obssession with the Pope controlling everything since the 13th century to the point of actually owning Britain and America.

D'rok · 16th December 2010, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Tolls

I like his obssession with the Pope controlling everything since the 13th century to the point of actually owning Britain and America.

I like how some of the FOTLers manage to see right through him:

Originally Posted by Crazy Serb

As in, you're not the first one (and won't be the last one) to think you've found the Holy Grail of some sort in some ancient scriptures and laws written thousands of years ago that somehow apply today as well.

He said, she said 800 years ago, he did this and that 500 years ago and all... sorry to break it down to you, but none of that applies in modern society. You can't even use the Bible to make an argument of any sort (convincing), as half the people you try to argue with will look at you like you're a loony, following a book written by God knows who with who knows what intentions and perverted and re-written over the last 2,000 years so many times by people who had their own hidden agendas, that the best you can use it for is to start a camp fire...

As far as any believable arguments and points you want to make, again, just try to stay focused here and stop drifting all over the place, and I'm sure me and a few others here might start siding with you.

However, when you bring in ancient Kings, Popes, fictional entities, strawman, slaves, artificial persons, Canada as a hoax, etc, etc. you'll lose most people... Hell, even those who you semi-convert and convince that some of that is true, most of them would never bother using it as an argument in a court of law, in front of a jury of their peers or in public in general. Why? Because it's way too far fetched and based on assumptions that haven't been proven (most of the time) or have been proven wrong by Superior Courts of this country already.

http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org...p=58863#p58863

Too bad they aren't better at looking at themselves in the mirror.

jargon buster · 16th December 2010, 02:35 PM

I might sign up again

Now I just need a name.........

JLord · 16th December 2010, 04:47 PM

When I started this thread I didn't expect Eldon to show up here. But it turned into a much more entertaining thread as a result. I am sad to see he is now banned.

ria_rokz · 16th December 2010, 04:55 PM

Hey, you guys are all the same person using different usernames, remember? You can stop the charade, he's gone now.

Hans · 18th December 2010, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Maybe we're both Hans?

I'm a bit confused...maybe I should log out and log back in again.

What is this? Hansfalsification?

There is only one Hans (disregard that intellectual pudding luddite MRC-Hans) and may I say I have the genitals to prove it.......

Hey since we're all the same people would someone like to take Eldon's place?

Aitch · 19th December 2010, 01:27 AM

Eldon's place?

Rogue1stclass · 20th December 2010, 01:07 AM

Wow, this was the most fun I've had reading a thread in a long time, and I didn't even find it in time to join in!

I want to thank everyone who made it possible, even if it was just one person on 20 different accounts.

Hans · 20th December 2010, 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by Rogue1stclass

Wow, this was the most fun I've had reading a thread in a long time, and I didn't even find it in time to join in!

I want to thank everyone who made it possible, even if it was just one person on 20 different accounts.

We, the collective, thank you

Tolls · 20th December 2010, 04:52 AM

Join us.
Join ussssss....

Rogue1stclass · 20th December 2010, 08:35 AM

Wait, am I the same person logging onto yet another account to praise myself?

I can't keep track anymore.

TjW · 20th December 2010, 08:50 AM

Another convert to autosycophantisolipsism.
Or the same one.

D'rok · 20th December 2010, 09:00 AM

I am the Egg Man. They are the Egg Men. I am the Walrus.

bikerdruid · 20th December 2010, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by D'rok

I am the Egg Man. They are the Egg Men. I am the Walrus.

koo koo kachoo

Rogue1stclass · 20th December 2010, 11:22 AM

So, can anyone tell me why they are Red Robed Priests of Isis if they didn't wear red robes and weren't priests of Isis for the majority of their history?

I mean, that whole Isis thing was just a blip on their long and sorted careers which predates the Recent geological epoch and continues even today.

Horatius · 20th December 2010, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rogue1stclass

So, can anyone tell me why they are Red Robed Priests of Isis if they didn't wear red robes and weren't priests of Isis for the majority of their history?

Quite simply, EldonG seem to believe that any time anyone says, "It will be this way FOREVER!", that's actually binding on all of humanity for all time to follow, no matter what anyone else ever says or does on the issue.

Why that doesn't mean that they're actually the mastodon-fur robed medicine men of Ugg the Caveman God is left as an exercise for the reader.

Dazed · 31st May 2012, 11:08 PM

The detaxcanada website looks like a geocities site from 1996, which, in my opinion is more damning than any case law or logic.

Border Reiver · 1st June 2012, 05:45 PM

I'm really story I missed this guy. He seemed like a hoot. Like Rob, but more hate and delusional ideas about law and history.

catsmate · 1st June 2012, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Border Reiver

I'm really story I missed this guy. He seemed like a hoot. Like Rob, but more hate and delusional ideas about law and history.

He has a nasty streak; anti-semite and involved in some frauds.

BaaBaa · 8th June 2012, 10:34 AM

Thanks to dood, I had my first custom title, "Red-robed Priest of Isis"

arayder · 28th February 2014, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by catsmate1

He has a nasty streak; anti-semite and involved in some frauds.

Eldon's baaaaack. . . .

At FreedomClub Canada: http://canadafcusa.wordpress.com/com...ame-explained/

On this page http://canadafcusa.wordpress.com/tax...ified-illegal/ he even repeats the claim that his wife, who committed suicide early in his detax career was really killed by the FBI.

It may be just a cut and paste of his old stuff since as far as anyone can tell Eldon is in the care of family in Merritt Canada.

The word on Quatloos is the the Grande Prairie freeman squatters are citing Eldon's whacky theories.

catsmate · 28th February 2014, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by arayder

Eldon's baaaaack. . . .

At FreedomClub Canada: http://canadafcusa.wordpress.com/com...ame-explained/

On this page http://canadafcusa.wordpress.com/tax...ified-illegal/ he even repeats the claim that his wife, who committed suicide early in his detax career was really killed by the FBI.

It may be just a cut and paste of his old stuff since as far as anyone can tell Eldon is in the care of family in Merritt Canada.

The word on Quatloos is the the Grande Prairie freeman squatters are citing Eldon's whacky theories.

That should work well for them, I must check in at Quatloos.

JLord · 28th February 2014, 02:28 PM

I wonder if he would come back on this forum again to update us on his research findings?

Ian Osborne · 28th February 2014, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by JLord

I wonder if he would come back on this forum again to update us on his research findings?

He's banned.

arayder · 28th February 2014, 09:08 PM

Getting around the banning ain't ole Eldon's only problem.

Despite living with his daughter who cut his wife, her momma, down from the extension cord with which she hung herself Eldon still manages keep alive the delusion that everything since his 1980's break from reality happened just as he imagines it.

In light of his mindlessly redundant 2000's can.taxes defense of his failed "methods" and his more recent unhinged cut and paste rants on the backwaters of freeman/sovereign/detax 1990's style forums one has to ask how often his more sane family caretakers will allow him keyboard access.

I say "more sane" since it seems that every family member who has touched upon the warped essence of what is "Eldon" has killed herself (Chavala, the first wife), run away (the son, Brent) or become helpless enablers (daughter Maria and his common law wife).

fitzgibbon · 25th March 2015, 05:53 AM

Apologies for resurrecting a necro-thread but a friend liked a FB posting that at first struck me as FOTLish but on second skim through I noticed "Detax". Is the name Amanda Vollmer familiar to any on the FOTL/Soveriegn/Detax followers?

If anyone's feeling adventurous, her FB page is:

https://www.facebook.com/greatcentralsun

and you have to friend request her.

Fitz

catsmate · 28th March 2015, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by fitzgibbon

Apologies for resurrecting a necro-thread but a friend liked a FB posting that at first struck me as FOTLish but on second skim through I noticed "Detax". Is the name Amanda Vollmer familiar to any on the FOTL/Soveriegn/Detax followers?

If anyone's feeling adventurous, her FB page is:

https://www.facebook.com/greatcentralsun

and you have to friend request her.

Fitz

Nope, and she doesn't appear on a search at Quatloos.

fitzgibbon · 29th March 2015, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by catsmate1

Nope, and she doesn't appear on a search at Quatloos.

Thanks.

She initially talks about "Got any 3rd party credit collectors at your tail? Tell them to shove it! Once an alleged debt goes to a third party collector, it's over because that alleged debt has been sold, which means the original contract you signed is null and void. You have no contract with the new collector, so you can tell them to go away (legally). I have done this successfully plenty of times and if you want to do it contact me. I do charge for this service but it's minor compared to paying your wage to numbers punched out of thin air into a computer!"
(bolding mine)

and then later "The Government will steal any tax return money you have so it is wise to also to the Detax method of filing taxes (in Canada)"

I'm sure CRA would be interested in her

Fitz

Hans · 21st November 2017, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by EldonG

It is sad that even on a public forum such as this that lawyers resort to the use of the Aristotleian 'Fallacies of Philosophy' to present their opinion, rather than putting up an honest debate on the issues presented on such websites as 'detaxcanada.org'.

Just to add this piece of information EldonG the man who ran Detax Canada died in May, 2017.

The original website is still up

https://web.archive.org/web/20170828...taxcanada.org/

This post at the Quatoos site explains all:

http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/view...p?f=48&t=11586

Quote:

January 6, 1941 - May 18, 2017

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

A giant in the Canadian OPCA sphere has passed, and, like the proverbial tree, nobody seems to have noticed. Nothing. I've checked the internet and all I've found is this;

http://www.vikingfuneralservices.ca/...41&fh_id=14333

Six months dead and not a word. Shabby, shabby treatment. Eldon Warman was a key actor in the inception of the Canadian Freeman movement, he provided the theoretical background. It's been the position of some academic writers, wel at least one, that Menard got most of his ideas from Warman and the Detax movement that Warman started in the late 1990's. But there is no mention whatever about it in his obit. No real personal history at all. Just that he existed, had family, and some died before him, some survived him. But Eldon even rated a detailed mention in Meads v Meads!

carlitos · 21st November 2017, 07:38 PM

I hope that his service was swell and that the Red Robed Priests of Isis treated his remains with dignity.

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BStrong · 21st November 2017, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Hans

Just to add this piece of information EldonG the man who ran Detax Canada died in May, 2017.

The original website is still up

https://web.archive.org/web/20170828...taxcanada.org/

This post at the Quatoos site explains all:

http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/view...p?f=48&t=11586

The introduction on the detax site reminds of the old cop joke:

Veteran: "Hey rookie, know the difference between unlawful and illegal?"

Rookie: "er, uh, well.."

Veteran: "Never mind kid, unlawful means against the law. Illegal is a sick bird." (rimshot)

arayder · 23rd November 2017, 08:42 PM

It's already been said that it's pretty sad day when the guy who got the whole detax/freeman thing going in Canada dies and today's guru class doesn't have beans to say about it.

I suspect the only thing Menard, Clifford and the other gurus learned from Warman's experience was to keep their prejudice and bigotry to themselves. Warren's hateful anti-Semitism, along with his fails, were his undoing. The freeman gurus of the early 2000's knew they couldn't market their theories if they said what they really thought about Jews, Muslims, blacks and gays, or admitted that their theories weren't any different from Warman's.

Freemen gurus had to, as they say, "distance themselves" from Warman but they ended up just forgetting about him. But as the years passed freemanism went off message and eventually it becomes clear that freemen gurus weren't much less hateful and bigoted than Warman.

One has to wonder were today's freeman gurus will end up, forgotten by the fickle subculture they created.

Hans · 24th November 2017, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by arayder

It's already been said that it's pretty sad day when the guy who got the whole detax/freeman thing going in Canada dies and today's guru class doesn't have beans to say about it.

I suspect the only thing Menard, Clifford and the other gurus learned from Warman's experience was to keep their prejudice and bigotry to themselves. Warren's hateful anti-Semitism, along with his fails, were his undoing. The freeman gurus of the early 2000's knew they couldn't market their theories if they said what they really thought about Jews, Muslims, blacks and gays, or admitted that their theories weren't any different from Warman's.

Freemen gurus had to, as they say, "distance themselves" from Warman but they ended up just forgetting about him. But as the years passed freemanism went off message and eventually it becomes clear that freemen gurus weren't much less hateful and bigoted than Warman.

One has to wonder were today's freeman gurus will end up, forgotten by the fickle subculture they created.

If history is a teacher it says more such believers, 'In magic words that give me wealth', will be along. A new generation of the clueless will rise.

arayder · 24th November 2017, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by arayder

It's already been said that it's pretty sad day when the guy who got the whole detax/freeman thing going in Canada dies and today's guru class doesn't have beans to say about it.

I suspect the only thing Menard, Clifford and the other gurus learned from Warman's experience was to keep their prejudice and bigotry to themselves. Warren's hateful anti-Semitism, along with his fails, were his undoing. The freeman gurus of the early 2000's knew they couldn't market their theories if they said what they really thought about Jews, Muslims, blacks and gays, or admitted that their theories weren't any different from Warman's.

Freemen gurus had to, as they say, "distance themselves" from Warman but they ended up just forgetting about him. But as the years passed freemanism went off message and eventually it becomes clear that freemen gurus weren't much less hateful and bigoted than Warman.

One has to wonder were today's freeman gurus will end up, forgotten by the fickle subculture they created.

Originally Posted by Hans

If history is a teacher it says more such believers, 'In magic words that give me wealth', will be along. A new generation of the clueless will rise.

Back in the 1990's the clueless didn't realize that Warman was driven to extort his insane theories by the self-driven the loss of his job, wealth and his wife, who committed suicide at the height of his troubles. The ensuing applications of his detax, natural person and personal sovereignty theories were just one embarrassing failure after another.

Eventually the anti-government crowd caught on that Eldon was a loser and he got put on the shelf.

The 2000's guru class, Menard, Clifford, Lentz and Belanger are on the down side of the same cycle of fame, failure, and eventual dismissal that Eldon experienced.

After claiming to have been "awoken" by personal and professional crises each ran through a period of popularity only to have been discovered as fakes due to their public and embarrassing failures.

Warman ended up broken, relying on the kindness of family and strangers.

The 2000's crop of gurus must surely see that now they are becoming the sad, crazy old men in the corner with bad teeth who can't explain why their theories didn't provide them with the freedom and abundance they promised everyone else.

arayder · 25th November 2017, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by arayder

I suspect the only thing Menard, Clifford and the other gurus learned from Warman's experience was to keep their prejudice and bigotry to themselves. Warren's hateful anti-Semitism, along with his fails, were his undoing. The freeman gurus of the early 2000's knew they couldn't market their theories if they said what they really thought about Jews, Muslims, blacks and gays, or admitted that their theories weren't any different from Warman's.

Cliffford has a well documented history of support for white supremacy: http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.co...verything.html

And who could forget Menard's nazification of freemanism?: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=267530

Most recently real freedom fighters have been shaking their heads at Menard's tacit endorsement of Quebec's Bill 62 which bans Muslim women from wearing the niqab, burka or any other face covering.

Menard said on his Facebook page, ". . .the veil. . . is associated with rejection of our culture and detrimental to our safety."

30th November 2010, 08:13 AM	#922
TSR Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,783	Originally Posted by Tolls No, no no... You don't understand. I'm you. Or are you me? Maybe we're both Hans? I'm a bit confused...maybe I should log out and log back in again. . You are the Eggman, I am the Walrus. Goo Goo ga Joob. or is that Jew.... .
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16th December 2010, 08:00 AM	#925
D'rok Free Barbarian on The Land Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,399	Bumpity bump. Good old Eldon has shown up on the WFS forums and is in fine form. The best part is that he's too crazy even for the FOTLers on WFS. Grab a coffee and enjoy: http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org...=6526&start=80
	__________________ "War exists within the continuum of politics, in which play is continuous, and no outcome is final, save for a global thermonuclear war, which might be." - Darth Rotor "Life, like a Saturday afternoon, finds its ruination in purpose." - MdC

16th December 2010, 08:15 AM	#926
Tolls Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,026	I like his obssession with the Pope controlling everything since the 13th century to the point of actually owning Britain and America.
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16th December 2010, 10:33 AM	#927
D'rok Free Barbarian on The Land Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,399	Originally Posted by Tolls I like his obssession with the Pope controlling everything since the 13th century to the point of actually owning Britain and America. I like how some of the FOTLers manage to see right through him: Originally Posted by Crazy Serb As in, you're not the first one (and won't be the last one) to think you've found the Holy Grail of some sort in some ancient scriptures and laws written thousands of years ago that somehow apply today as well. He said, she said 800 years ago, he did this and that 500 years ago and all... sorry to break it down to you, but none of that applies in modern society. You can't even use the Bible to make an argument of any sort (convincing), as half the people you try to argue with will look at you like you're a loony, following a book written by God knows who with who knows what intentions and perverted and re-written over the last 2,000 years so many times by people who had their own hidden agendas, that the best you can use it for is to start a camp fire... As far as any believable arguments and points you want to make, again, just try to stay focused here and stop drifting all over the place, and I'm sure me and a few others here might start siding with you. However, when you bring in ancient Kings, Popes, fictional entities, strawman, slaves, artificial persons, Canada as a hoax, etc, etc. you'll lose most people... Hell, even those who you semi-convert and convince that some of that is true, most of them would never bother using it as an argument in a court of law, in front of a jury of their peers or in public in general. Why? Because it's way too far fetched and based on assumptions that haven't been proven (most of the time) or have been proven wrong by Superior Courts of this country already. http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org...p=58863#p58863 Too bad they aren't better at looking at themselves in the mirror.
	__________________ "War exists within the continuum of politics, in which play is continuous, and no outcome is final, save for a global thermonuclear war, which might be." - Darth Rotor "Life, like a Saturday afternoon, finds its ruination in purpose." - MdC

16th December 2010, 02:35 PM	#928
jargon buster Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,773	I might sign up again Now I just need a name.........
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30th November 2010, 11:03 AM	#923
Paul Illuminator Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 3,070	Originally Posted by TSR or is that Jew.... . Must be. Muslim, communist, progressive or bankster don't rhyme

30th November 2010, 03:11 PM	#924
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 19,346	Originally Posted by Kid Eager Bother! My cutting riposte is wasted, as Eldon has left the building. After all, I am Australian and yes, our provinces did vote to adopt the Constitution that formed Australia. I also love the way he answered my question with an answer to another question entirely. I guess that means I stay deluded and sheepled forevermore... Well you are Australian I'll miss Eldon, he was a fascinating addition to my collection of loons and my attempt to develop a system for categorising such people.

16th December 2010, 04:47 PM	#929
JLord Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 426	When I started this thread I didn't expect Eldon to show up here. But it turned into a much more entertaining thread as a result. I am sad to see he is now banned.
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16th December 2010, 04:55 PM	#930
ria_rokz Muse Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 533	Hey, you guys are all the same person using different usernames, remember? You can stop the charade, he's gone now.
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18th December 2010, 09:21 PM	#931
Hans Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,243	Quote: Maybe we're both Hans? I'm a bit confused...maybe I should log out and log back in again. What is this? Hansfalsification? There is only one Hans (disregard that intellectual pudding luddite MRC-Hans) and may I say I have the genitals to prove it....... Hey since we're all the same people would someone like to take Eldon's place?
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19th December 2010, 01:27 AM	#932
Aitch Guest Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,723	Eldon's place?
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20th December 2010, 01:07 AM	#933
Rogue1stclass Muse Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 844	Wow, this was the most fun I've had reading a thread in a long time, and I didn't even find it in time to join in! I want to thank everyone who made it possible, even if it was just one person on 20 different accounts.
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20th December 2010, 01:09 AM	#934
Hans Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,243	Originally Posted by Rogue1stclass Wow, this was the most fun I've had reading a thread in a long time, and I didn't even find it in time to join in! I want to thank everyone who made it possible, even if it was just one person on 20 different accounts. We, the collective, thank you
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20th December 2010, 04:52 AM	#935
Tolls Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,026	Join us. Join ussssss....
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20th December 2010, 08:35 AM	#936
Rogue1stclass Muse Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 844	Wait, am I the same person logging onto yet another account to praise myself? I can't keep track anymore.
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20th December 2010, 08:50 AM	#937
TjW Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11,097	Another convert to autosycophantisolipsism. Or the same one.

20th December 2010, 09:00 AM	#938
D'rok Free Barbarian on The Land Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,399	I am the Egg Man. They are the Egg Men. I am the Walrus.
	__________________ "War exists within the continuum of politics, in which play is continuous, and no outcome is final, save for a global thermonuclear war, which might be." - Darth Rotor "Life, like a Saturday afternoon, finds its ruination in purpose." - MdC

20th December 2010, 11:10 AM	#939
bikerdruid Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North Peace Bioregion of theGreat Boreal Forest Posts: 7,361	Originally Posted by D'rok I am the Egg Man. They are the Egg Men. I am the Walrus. koo koo kachoo

20th December 2010, 11:22 AM	#940
Rogue1stclass Muse Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 844	So, can anyone tell me why they are Red Robed Priests of Isis if they didn't wear red robes and weren't priests of Isis for the majority of their history? I mean, that whole Isis thing was just a blip on their long and sorted careers which predates the Recent geological epoch and continues even today.
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20th December 2010, 01:34 PM	#941
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26,326	Originally Posted by Rogue1stclass So, can anyone tell me why they are Red Robed Priests of Isis if they didn't wear red robes and weren't priests of Isis for the majority of their history? Quite simply, EldonG seem to believe that any time anyone says, "It will be this way FOREVER!", that's actually binding on all of humanity for all time to follow, no matter what anyone else ever says or does on the issue. Why that doesn't mean that they're actually the mastodon-fur robed medicine men of Ugg the Caveman God is left as an exercise for the reader.
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31st May 2012, 11:08 PM	#942
Dazed Muse Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 586	The detaxcanada website looks like a geocities site from 1996, which, in my opinion is more damning than any case law or logic.
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1st June 2012, 05:45 PM	#943
Border Reiver Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 6,319	I'm really story I missed this guy. He seemed like a hoot. Like Rob, but more hate and delusional ideas about law and history.
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1st June 2012, 06:13 PM	#944
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 19,346	Originally Posted by Border Reiver I'm really story I missed this guy. He seemed like a hoot. Like Rob, but more hate and delusional ideas about law and history. He has a nasty streak; anti-semite and involved in some frauds.

8th June 2012, 10:34 AM	#945
BaaBaa Semi-literate hench-person Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,457	Thanks to dood, I had my first custom title, "Red-robed Priest of Isis"
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28th February 2014, 11:42 AM	#946
arayder Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,660	Originally Posted by catsmate1 He has a nasty streak; anti-semite and involved in some frauds. Eldon's baaaaack. . . . At FreedomClub Canada: http://canadafcusa.wordpress.com/com...ame-explained/ On this page http://canadafcusa.wordpress.com/tax...ified-illegal/ he even repeats the claim that his wife, who committed suicide early in his detax career was really killed by the FBI. It may be just a cut and paste of his old stuff since as far as anyone can tell Eldon is in the care of family in Merritt Canada. The word on Quatloos is the the Grande Prairie freeman squatters are citing Eldon's whacky theories.
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28th February 2014, 12:43 PM	#947
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 19,346	Originally Posted by arayder Eldon's baaaaack. . . . At FreedomClub Canada: http://canadafcusa.wordpress.com/com...ame-explained/ On this page http://canadafcusa.wordpress.com/tax...ified-illegal/ he even repeats the claim that his wife, who committed suicide early in his detax career was really killed by the FBI. It may be just a cut and paste of his old stuff since as far as anyone can tell Eldon is in the care of family in Merritt Canada. The word on Quatloos is the the Grande Prairie freeman squatters are citing Eldon's whacky theories. That should work well for them, I must check in at Quatloos.
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28th February 2014, 02:28 PM	#948
JLord Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 426	I wonder if he would come back on this forum again to update us on his research findings?
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28th February 2014, 02:36 PM	#949
Ian Osborne JREF Kid Tagger Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,656	Originally Posted by JLord I wonder if he would come back on this forum again to update us on his research findings? He's banned.
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28th February 2014, 09:08 PM	#950
arayder Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,660	Getting around the banning ain't ole Eldon's only problem. Despite living with his daughter who cut his wife, her momma, down from the extension cord with which she hung herself Eldon still manages keep alive the delusion that everything since his 1980's break from reality happened just as he imagines it. In light of his mindlessly redundant 2000's can.taxes defense of his failed "methods" and his more recent unhinged cut and paste rants on the backwaters of freeman/sovereign/detax 1990's style forums one has to ask how often his more sane family caretakers will allow him keyboard access. I say "more sane" since it seems that every family member who has touched upon the warped essence of what is "Eldon" has killed herself (Chavala, the first wife), run away (the son, Brent) or become helpless enablers (daughter Maria and his common law wife).
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25th March 2015, 05:53 AM	#951
fitzgibbon Master Poster Join Date: May 2007 Location: Just west of the centre of the universe Posts: 2,829	Apologies for resurrecting a necro-thread but a friend liked a FB posting that at first struck me as FOTLish but on second skim through I noticed "Detax". Is the name Amanda Vollmer familiar to any on the FOTL/Soveriegn/Detax followers? If anyone's feeling adventurous, her FB page is: https://www.facebook.com/greatcentralsun and you have to friend request her. Fitz
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28th March 2015, 01:42 PM	#952
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 19,346	Originally Posted by fitzgibbon Apologies for resurrecting a necro-thread but a friend liked a FB posting that at first struck me as FOTLish but on second skim through I noticed "Detax". Is the name Amanda Vollmer familiar to any on the FOTL/Soveriegn/Detax followers? If anyone's feeling adventurous, her FB page is: https://www.facebook.com/greatcentralsun and you have to friend request her. Fitz Nope, and she doesn't appear on a search at Quatloos.
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29th March 2015, 07:00 AM	#953
fitzgibbon Master Poster Join Date: May 2007 Location: Just west of the centre of the universe Posts: 2,829	Originally Posted by catsmate1 Nope, and she doesn't appear on a search at Quatloos. Thanks. She initially talks about "Got any 3rd party credit collectors at your tail? Tell them to shove it! Once an alleged debt goes to a third party collector, it's over because that alleged debt has been sold, which means the original contract you signed is null and void. You have no contract with the new collector, so you can tell them to go away (legally). I have done this successfully plenty of times and if you want to do it contact me. I do charge for this service but it's minor compared to paying your wage to numbers punched out of thin air into a computer!" (bolding mine) and then later "The Government will steal any tax return money you have so it is wise to also to the Detax method of filing taxes (in Canada)" I'm sure CRA would be interested in her Fitz
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21st November 2017, 05:15 PM	#954
Hans Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,243	Originally Posted by EldonG It is sad that even on a public forum such as this that lawyers resort to the use of the Aristotleian 'Fallacies of Philosophy' to present their opinion, rather than putting up an honest debate on the issues presented on such websites as 'detaxcanada.org'. Just to add this piece of information EldonG the man who ran Detax Canada died in May, 2017. The original website is still up https://web.archive.org/web/20170828...taxcanada.org/ This post at the Quatoos site explains all: http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/view...p?f=48&t=11586 Quote: January 6, 1941 - May 18, 2017 If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? A giant in the Canadian OPCA sphere has passed, and, like the proverbial tree, nobody seems to have noticed. Nothing. I've checked the internet and all I've found is this; http://www.vikingfuneralservices.ca/...41&fh_id=14333 Six months dead and not a word. Shabby, shabby treatment. Eldon Warman was a key actor in the inception of the Canadian Freeman movement, he provided the theoretical background. It's been the position of some academic writers, wel at least one, that Menard got most of his ideas from Warman and the Detax movement that Warman started in the late 1990's. But there is no mention whatever about it in his obit. No real personal history at all. Just that he existed, had family, and some died before him, some survived him. But Eldon even rated a detailed mention in Meads v Meads!
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21st November 2017, 07:38 PM	#955
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 18,003	I hope that his service was swell and that the Red Robed Priests of Isis treated his remains with dignity. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

21st November 2017, 08:23 PM	#956
BStrong Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Francisco Posts: 11,225	Originally Posted by Hans Just to add this piece of information EldonG the man who ran Detax Canada died in May, 2017. The original website is still up https://web.archive.org/web/20170828...taxcanada.org/ This post at the Quatoos site explains all: http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/view...p?f=48&t=11586 The introduction on the detax site reminds of the old cop joke: Veteran: "Hey rookie, know the difference between unlawful and illegal?" Rookie: "er, uh, well.." Veteran: "Never mind kid, unlawful means against the law. Illegal is a sick bird." (rimshot)
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