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Old 11th May 2017, 12:31 PM   #921
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
Anything that has radioactive material can be [dated].
https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/1997/fs163-97/FS-163-97.html
I am looking into it now.
No. FALSE. Not everything that has radioactive material can be dated.
Furthermore, the article you link to contains no content that would even begin to support your claim.
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Old 11th May 2017, 12:38 PM   #922
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As I just opened a new page, this is a good time to remind Criteria to return from running away; he has some dirt to eat, and some facts to acknowledge:

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So you see, XEDS maps (Figures 10 and 15) were done at 10 keV, but XEDS spectra at 20 keV - unless otherwise specified.
Figure 7 is NOT an XEDS map. It is merely 4 XEDS spectra. Thus the 20 keV applies - because nothing is otherwisely stated.

So please acknowledge explicitly at this time:
  • Figure 7a in "Active Thermitic Material..." and Figure 5b in "Why the Red/Gray Paint Chips..." show the exact same XEDS spectrum, won at 20 keV, and I, Criteria, was foolishly wrong to return to the stupid claim one was done at 10 keV.
  • Harrit found traces of strontium and chromium.
  • Farrer found traces of strontium and chromium.
  • Finding strontium and chromium is consistent with, and is predicted from, the LaClede theory.



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[Harrit] clearly states that there are signals for strontium (two in fact), signals (2) for chromium, signals (2) for calcium, and a signal for sulfur.
"Signal" is still the opposite of noise.

"In level with noise" is not equivalent to "it is noise", nor is it equivalent to "it isn't signal". The only thing it means is "I, Niels Harrit, see that there are actually signals, but I am too dumb and unexperienced to make sense of them, so I'll add a little vague talk to fool the gullible, like Criteria, into believing they are not there because we don't want to see them".

You need to acknowledge at this time, explicitly, that Harrit is correct:
  • There are signals of strontium in Figure 7a / 5b
The signal is "minute" alright, indicating that there is only a "trace" of strontium - precisely as would be expected from LaClede paint chips, which were spedified to contain about 1% of strontium chromate by weight.*
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Harrit truthfully reports these signals in his whitepaper, and correctly calls them "signals", which you need to acknowledge explicitly at this time.

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I already quoted Harrit's own caption of Figure 5 of "Why..." to you. Here the relevant bit:
"Right: The same spectrum as in frame (a)"
I put a little emphasise to the important word - that both 5a and 5b show the SAME spectrum. The one done at 20 keV beam energy. Which you need to acknowledge at this time.
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Criteria, please acknowledge explicitly at this time:
  • Figure 7a in "Active Thermitic Material..." and Figure 5b in "Why the Red/Gray Paint Chips..." show the exact same XEDS spectrum, won at 20 keV, and I, Criteria, was foolishly wrong to return to the stupid claim one was done at 10 keV.
  • Harrit found traces of strontium and chromium, because their presence caused signals in the EDX of Figure 7a/5a.
  • Farrer found traces of strontium and chromium.
  • Finding traces of strontium and chromium is consistent with, and is predicted from, the LaClede theory.
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