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Old 29th September 2020, 01:11 PM   #1
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Watching the debate tonight?

No poll, just wondering. Obviously it won't be available or at a bad time for some of us.
Me? Certainly not. But I'm sure my wife will. I'm thinking of coming in to the office, putting some music on the computer, wearing headphones, and perhaps following a live fact-check.
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Old 29th September 2020, 01:15 PM   #2
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Probably not. Watching two has-beens that are well past their prime accuse each other of being senile sounds much too depressing for me.

I wonder who these debates are even for. Who can possibly be undecided at this point?
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Old 29th September 2020, 01:16 PM   #3
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I plan on following the live chat 538 puts out. I can't stand listening to Trump speak, so I don't plan on watching it live.
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Old 29th September 2020, 01:17 PM   #4
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I literally can't imagine what purpose it is going to serve.

The campaign has already been going on for months, years if we want to be honest. There's no new information about the candidates to cme out.
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Old 29th September 2020, 01:18 PM   #5
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Has anyone here changed their vote because of a debate?
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Old 29th September 2020, 01:22 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
Probably not. Watching two has-beens that are well past their prime accuse each other of being senile sounds much too depressing for me.

I wonder who these debates are even for. Who can possibly be undecided at this point?
And hearing canned answers and prewritten gotchas shouldn't influence an informed voter either.

Pretty sure these things are for our 'nice guy to have a beer with' crowd. Who, incidentally, should be barred from voting.
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Old 29th September 2020, 01:24 PM   #7
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Possibly the only reason to watch the debate would be if you have in mind something specific that either of them could plausibly say or do, that would change your mind about them. And it would have to be something that you couldn't find out just as easily the next day from the transcript or the reporting about the debate.
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Old 29th September 2020, 01:30 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
I wonder who these debates are even for. Who can possibly be undecided at this point?
A person might decide not to vote for either of these guys.
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Old 29th September 2020, 01:32 PM   #9
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Watching with my Guatemalan buddies. Obviously a lot concern because most have many family members living in the US. Always interesting to get their perspectives. I'll need to do a lot of translating, me thinks.
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Old 29th September 2020, 01:32 PM   #10
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I will. It will be at 2:30am my time if I'm not misinformed - the right time for the expected comedy gold.
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Old 29th September 2020, 01:34 PM   #11
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Nope. It's at 3am Norwegian time, and while I may be awake then as I don't have work tomorrow, I can't stand seeing or hearing Trump, and I'm too terrified it'll go badly for Biden somehow. I'll read the summaries tomorrow morning.

It's like that trainwreck analogy, only my reaction is the opposite -- instead of not being able to look away, I don't want to watch it. Can't stand Trump, no particular interest in Biden. Also, as was said, who is really undecided at this point.
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Old 29th September 2020, 01:38 PM   #12
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^ he's right. The debate will be at 9pm Eastern Daylight Time which is 3am Central European Summer Time.
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Old 29th September 2020, 02:18 PM   #13
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I'll have it on, listening while I'm doing something else. I think there will be some interesting turns tonight as each candidate goes for the jugular. The follow-up debates, not so much.
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Old 29th September 2020, 02:32 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
No poll, just wondering. Obviously it won't be available or at a bad time for some of us.
Me? Certainly not. But I'm sure my wife will. I'm thinking of coming in to the office, putting some music on the computer, wearing headphones, and perhaps following a live fact-check.
Because you can't really stay away, can you?


I'll be watching.
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Probably not. Watching two has-beens that are well past their prime accuse each other of being senile sounds much too depressing for me.

I wonder who these debates are even for. Who can possibly be undecided at this point?
I hope Biden is not going to be accusing Trump of being senile.
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Originally Posted by Dread Pirate Roberts View Post
I plan on following the live chat 538 puts out. I can't stand listening to Trump speak, so I don't plan on watching it live.
That's what mute is for. And if you want you can read the closed captions.
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Nope. It's at 3am Norwegian time, and while I may be awake then as I don't have work tomorrow, I can't stand seeing or hearing Trump, and I'm too terrified it'll go badly for Biden somehow. I'll read the summaries tomorrow morning.

It's like that trainwreck analogy, only my reaction is the opposite -- instead of not being able to look away, I don't want to watch it. Can't stand Trump, no particular interest in Biden. Also, as was said, who is really undecided at this point.
I would not get up to watch this if it was after I went to bed either. I'll only be staying up tonight to be sure to catch the Colbert Report. And maybe I'll stay of for Seth Meyer's monologue, but not for his guests.
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It will be the middle of the day here, so I'll probably have a look. I'm thinking of maybe making a drinking game out of it. Any suggestions? What merits a shot of booze?
Trump sniffing?
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Key words?
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Old 29th September 2020, 02:50 PM   #19
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No, having our choice come down to one of these two men is extremely depressing. I'll skim some articles tomorrow but I can't bear the thought of having to listen to every single word in real time. It will be difficult enough to vote for the one I consider the lesser of two extremely bad alternatives.
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Old 29th September 2020, 02:51 PM   #20
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I would watch to see if Trump's head explodes, or Biden's for that matter. It would be an event people would be talking about - did you see Trump's head explode? - and people would have to pretend they did, rather than relying on the 50,000 times the clip would be presented across various platforms. But that's about the only reason I'd watch. Oh, and I'm curious about Chris Wallace's moderation. I think I'll ask Mom if she wants to watch or maybe flip a coin.

ETA: Or just watch SG's running commentary ...
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Ok, so what is the drinking game for tonight?

Drink everytime... what?
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Old 29th September 2020, 03:01 PM   #22
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I plan on watching unless it gets to where I just can't stomach it any longer. I enjoyed watching Hillary wipe with floor with Trump. This one? Anything could happen. And I mean anything.
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I'm thinking of maybe making a drinking game out of it. Any suggestions?
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Ok, so what is the drinking game for tonight?

Drink everytime... what?

I suggest

Biden
Corona
Uhm

Trump
China
Ukraine

PROST!
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Old 29th September 2020, 03:07 PM   #24
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tbh it's also that I obsess about the US election way too much as I do. It's bad enough that I check sides like 538 and 270towin.com many times a day. It's just getting to be too much. I don't even read news articles too much anymore, not to mention newspaper comments threads.
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Old 29th September 2020, 03:07 PM   #25
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I won't be watching the debate tonight because I need to feed my goldfish and organize my sock drawer.
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Old 29th September 2020, 03:12 PM   #26
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I suggest

Biden
Corona
Uhm

Trump
China
Ukraine

PROST!
Are you trying to get me drunk?
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I've got wine and snacks ready and will be posting live commentary.
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Are you trying to get me drunk?

I'm already a bit drunk myself, and for your safety I cut out "booze" from Brainache's post. I have a nice, dry Dornfelder red wine here on which I will survive every Uhm Biden possibly can utter if I sip.
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I'm already a bit drunk myself, and for your safety I cut out "booze" from Brainache's post. I have a nice, dry Dornfelder red wine here on which I will survive every Uhm Biden possibly can utter if I sip.
I'm actually bartending at my bar tonight, so I'm in for a tough one. All the locals will be out and a few ex-pats who live in the area, too. I asked a friend to open the bar for me tomorrow, as I'm not likely to make it in before noon.. *sigh*
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Trump: radical

Biden: covid/coronavirus
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Probably not. Watching two has-beens that are well past their prime accuse each other of being senile sounds much too depressing for me.

I wonder who these debates are even for. Who can possibly be undecided at this point?
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I have a feeling that both of these baby boomers are going to avoid using the word cicada tonight. Also sad that David Bowie died as he could have lent a hand for keeping the debate on track. He was good for that and singing, but you can't just start singing now that we have Covid-19. I hope something really funny happens to make everyone laugh and remind us that we are all exactly the same even if some are horribly different.
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Nope, I decided not to vote for anyone involved with Dolt 45 roughly a decade ago, back when he was supposed to speak at the RNC, so I'm l'm long past decided.

I may watch the VP debate to watch Harris eviscerate Pence, though, that should be amusing.
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Nope, I decided not to vote for anyone involved with Dolt 45 roughly a decade ago, back when he was supposed to speak at the RNC, so I'm l'm long past decided.

I may watch the VP debate to watch Harris eviscerate Pence, though, that should be amusing.
As was said above, I think we are all long decided. The only interest to me is of the train-wreck variety.
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If Biden shows any signs of tiredness, it's because he's "Sleepy Joe". If he shows up animated and ready, it's because he's on "performance-enhancing drugs".

That said, I wonder why they decided to start it so late (9pm local time). Hell, even I'm in bed by then sometimes. If it's planned for two hours, that's getting done at 11pm. Of course, Trump hardly sleeps because of his "performance-enhancing drugs", but Biden might not be used to chatting it up that late.

I'd probably rather see the Director's Cut of the proceedings -- the one that edits out all the Trump repetition. Because he says everything three times in the same paragraph.

I saw the CNN anchors last night sighing and rolling their eyes about having to be up until 1 or 2 am tonight just to cover the aftermath.
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Possibly the only reason to watch the debate would be if you have in mind something specific that either of them could plausibly say or do, that would change your mind about them. And it would have to be something that you couldn't find out just as easily the next day from the transcript or the reporting about the debate.
I hope Trump ***** up and starts blabbering incoherently.

If only to swing a few undecideds still around.
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Personally, I can't wait to not watch it. The sooner it's over, the better.

Predictions: Biden botches one of his pre-written zingers. Trump praises his administration as one of the best in history, grading himself an A-plus. He also says a lot of other dumb ****. Oh, and he's expected not just to repeat old lies but create new ones.
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Personally, I can't wait to not watch it. The sooner it's over, the better.

Predictions: Biden botches one of his pre-written zingers. Trump praises his administration as one of the best in history, grading himself an A-plus. He also says a lot of other dumb ****. Oh, and he's expected not just to repeat old lies but create new ones.
Well, reports are that Trump isn't prepping too hard because he believes in himself so much. That means many, many old and new falsehoods tonight. My bar is already full. 70%Guatemaltecos and 30% ex-pats, only one of whom is a Trumper (I will not say it out loud beacuse I don't want a dead body on my property).
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Are you trying to get me drunk?
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If Biden shows any signs of tiredness, it's because he's "Sleepy Joe". If he shows up animated and ready, it's because he's on "performance-enhancing drugs".
Yep. That's Trump's MO. Poison the narrative from the beginning.

Sleepy Joe's on drugs!

If we lose, the election's rigged!

Etc...
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