Texas ex-cop arrested over October "voter fraud" assault

Checkmite · 15th December 2020, 05:40 PM

Today, former Houston Police captain Mark Aguirre was arrested by Houston police and charged with felony assault after an investigation into an incident where Aguirre and criminal associates forced an air conditioning repairman to the ground and stole his equipment truck, claiming the victim was the mastermind of a massive voter fraud scheme.

In the early morning hours of October 19th, the HVAC technician was driving his box truck in south Houston when he was struck and forced to the side of the road by a Aguirre's SUV, whereupon Aguirre pointed a weapon at him and ordered him to the ground at gunpoint while two other men, arriving in separate vehicles, drove off with his box truck. Immediately after this, a Houston patrol officer by luck happened to come upon the scene and ordered Aguirre away from the victim.

What Aguirre had to say to the Houston police by way of explanation was...quite the story.

According to one-time Police Captain Aguirre, he was presently a member of a group of citizens calling themselves the "Liberty Center", and they were investigating a massive election fraud scheme. The HVAC technician was the head of the operation, which was funded by Mark Zuckerberg to the tune of several million dollars, and was running it out of a shed behind his mobile home, where thousands of fraudulent ballots were being filled out and signed - specifically by Hispanic children, because their fingerprints wouldn't show up in any databases if authorities ever tried to fingerprint the ballots. Aguirre and the Liberty Center had both the mobile home and the shed behind it under 24-hour surveillance for four days, and had finally decided to take down the technician when he left the house on October 19th with what they were certain was a cargo of boxes containing 750,000 fake ballots in the back of his truck.

While being interrogated, Aguirre gave the detective at the scene a thinly-veiled warning:

Quote:

The defendant told Affiant that Affiant can be a hero or part of the problem. The defendant told Affiant, "I just hope you're a patriot."

A few minutes after the scene was broken up, officers located the technician's truck a few blocks away. There was nothing in the truck except air conditioning tools.

The technician also gave police permission to have a look around his home and property. There were no boxes of ballots, or crews of Mexican kids. The shed was full of "ordinary household items".

SuburbanTurkey · 15th December 2020, 05:48 PM

Dying in prison to own the libs.

trustbutverify · 15th December 2020, 05:53 PM

Whaddya mean "to own the Libs"? He broke up a massive election fraud scheme.

SuburbanTurkey · 15th December 2020, 06:57 PM

Apparently this was more than a lone nut with a gun.

There was a second accomplice during the hijacking, and the former cop charged claims he was paid a hefty sum by a group organized for this purpose.

Quote:

Police say Aguirre was paid $266,400 by Houston-based Liberty Center for God and Country, a nonprofit organization that is run by GOP party activist Dr. Steven Hotze.

...

Jared Woodfill, an attorney for Hotze, said Liberty Center had employed Aguirre's company and around 20 investigators who were looking into allegations of voter fraud during the election.

Woodfill said he doesn't know if Aguirre was working on the investigation at the time of the alleged assault, but that Liberty Center doesn't approve of such tactics.

"We would never endorse that, saying go pull someone over, put a gun up to their head and make them open up their truck," he said.

https://www.startribune.com/ex-houst...aim/600001868/

Sounds like a criminal conspiracy to me. Check under your seats, that's right, it's a felony conviction.

Norman Alexander · 15th December 2020, 07:15 PM

Seems this whole crew of crazy needs to be spending a really long cooling-off time in a secluded but secure facility, away from civilisation, cable TV, and the remote control. Like about 10 years worth.

trustbutverify · 15th December 2020, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Seems this whole crew of crazy needs to be spending a really long cooling-off time in a secluded but secure facility, away from civilisation, cable TV, and the remote control. Like about 10 years worth.

That's going to have to be one big ass sized secure facility.

Checkmite · 15th December 2020, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Apparently this was more than a lone nut with a gun.

There was a second accomplice during the hijacking, and the former cop charged claims he was paid a hefty sum by a group organized for this purpose.

https://www.startribune.com/ex-houst...aim/600001868/

Sounds like a criminal conspiracy to me. Check under your seats, that's right, it's a felony conviction.

Liberty Center saying they "don't approve of such tactics" is going to be a pretty hard sell. Of the $266,400 police found had been given to Aguirre by the group, $211,400 of it was wired to him the day after the assault.

Checkmite · 15th December 2020, 10:41 PM

And note again that the alleged assault happened in October. This is how violent and fanatical at least one "citizen investigator" was willing to be in defense of the president against an imaginary massive election-fraud conspiracy even before the election took place. Now that Trump has lost and the various state and federal courts have put a decisive end to the legal challenges, I have a nagging feeling that incidents of this type may recur in the near future.

ponderingturtle · 16th December 2020, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

Today, former Houston Police captain Mark Aguirre was arrested by Houston police and charged with felony assault after an investigation into an incident where Aguirre and criminal associates forced an air conditioning repairman to the ground and stole his equipment truck, claiming the victim was the mastermind of a massive voter fraud scheme.

In the early morning hours of October 19th, the HVAC technician was driving his box truck in south Houston when he was struck and forced to the side of the road by a Aguirre's SUV, whereupon Aguirre pointed a weapon at him and ordered him to the ground at gunpoint while two other men, arriving in separate vehicles, drove off with his box truck. Immediately after this, a Houston patrol officer by luck happened to come upon the scene and ordered Aguirre away from the victim.

How did it take 2 months for the police to arrest him? I mean I guess they don't care about car jackings in Houston.

SuburbanTurkey · 16th December 2020, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

How did it take 2 months for the police to arrest him? I mean I guess they don't care about car jackings in Houston.

Seems like he's being undercharged as well.

They stole this man's truck at gunpoint. This was an armed robbery, not just an assault. Not seeing any charges for his accomplice who took part in a serious felony.

Anyone but a former cop would be looking at a handful of serious felonies here and would have been arrested on the spot. Perhaps more will be coming down the pike as the conspiracy is unraveled and more people are hopefully charged.

Darat · 16th December 2020, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Seems like he's being undercharged as well.

They stole this man's truck at gunpoint. This was an armed robbery, not just an assault. Not seeing any charges for his accomplice who took part in a serious felony.

Anyone but a former cop would be looking at a handful of serious felonies here and would have been arrested on the spot. Perhaps more will be coming down the pike as the conspiracy is unraveled and more people are hopefully charged.

Just high spirits!

Dave Rogers · 16th December 2020, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

How did it take 2 months for the police to arrest him? I mean I guess they don't care about car jackings in Houston.

Possibly so as not to have any effect on the results of the election by countering the narrative that massive voter fraud was expected. Only ongoing investigations with narratives that appear to favour the Republicans are supposed to be used for political gain.

Dave

Checkmite · 16th December 2020, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

How did it take 2 months for the police to arrest him? I mean I guess they don't care about car jackings in Houston.

The police did have to subpoena records from his bank and a hotel that the group was using as a "headquarters". I do not know how much time it took getting a judge to issue these and then waiting for the companies to respond, but I presume that may have played a role in the delay.

Thermal · 16th December 2020, 11:35 AM

Two months to arrest for a blatant felony crime?? And these yahoos are well-heeled enough to have a quarter mil to throw around? This is some seriously bad news.

ponderingturtle · 16th December 2020, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

The police did have to subpoena records from his bank and a hotel that the group was using as a "headquarters". I do not know how much time it took getting a judge to issue these and then waiting for the companies to respond, but I presume that may have played a role in the delay.

Because with out them stealing the guys truck and gunpoint would be legal? There seems to be no issue establishing that he was threatening this guy with a gun and had an accomplice take his truck. Why isn't that enough to put him behind bars while further charges are investigated?

Thermal · 16th December 2020, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

Because with out them stealing the guys truck and gunpoint would be legal? There seems to be no issue establishing that he was threatening this guy with a gun and had an accomplice take his truck. Why isn't that enough to put him behind bars while further charges are investigated?

Seriously. I wonder if they would be so je ne sais quoi if it was three random black men jacking the truck and holding some guy on the side of the road at gunpoint?

Athyrio · 16th December 2020, 02:11 PM

I am anxious to see further details of this story as it goes to trial. This was a truly bizarre caper and hopefully his investigative skills have diminished since he was a police captain because it would make me think that he has made some serious mistakes along the way while enforcing the law.

750,000 ballots and hispanic juvenile fingerprints! He needs to show his work on that one. But the scary part is that he’s not the only one like that out there.

SuburbanTurkey · 16th December 2020, 02:16 PM

This particular cop was fired after causing the largest internal investigation in Houston police history.

Quote:

Calling the operation "almost totalitarian," a federal judge says a Houston police plan that led to 278 arrests in a Kmart parking lot almost three years ago was unconstitutional.

...

In response to public outrage, the city dropped all charges and the Houston Police Department conducted the largest internal investigation in its history, resulting in disciplinary action against 32 officers. Capt. Mark Aguirre was fired for his handling of the raid.

The lawsuits accuse police of brandishing pistols and shotguns, verbally abusing customers and knocking food from diners' hands and off their tables.

The lawsuits allege that those arrested were forced to sit for hours while plastic cuffs cut into their arms, and some people soiled their clothes when denied permission to use restrooms.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...n=ABtest10036B

He was always a piece of ****.

Checkmite · 16th December 2020, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Athyrio

This was a truly bizarre caper and hopefully his investigative skills have diminished since he was a police captain because it would make me think that he has made some serious mistakes along the way while enforcing the law.

Judging from SuburbanTurkey's post above, I would say you are probably right to think so....

Norman Alexander · 16th December 2020, 04:10 PM

Like......wow

Skeptic Ginger · 16th December 2020, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Seems like he's being undercharged as well.

They stole this man's truck at gunpoint. This was an armed robbery, not just an assault. Not seeing any charges for his accomplice who took part in a serious felony.

Anyone but a former cop would be looking at a handful of serious felonies here and would have been arrested on the spot. Perhaps more will be coming down the pike as the conspiracy is unraveled and more people are hopefully charged.

Or taken away for a 72 hour hold to be evaluated by a mental health professional.

Skeptic Ginger · 16th December 2020, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

Today, former Houston Police captain Mark Aguirre was arrested by Houston police and charged with felony assault after an investigation into an incident where Aguirre and criminal associates forced an air conditioning repairman to the ground and stole his equipment truck, claiming the victim was the mastermind of a massive voter fraud scheme.

...

There's an interview in that link that is interesting. There are denials by people from Liberty Center saying that's not what happened, that the HVAC guy came at the ex-cop, more denials and claims that wasn't a credible story on the warrant.

But at the end one guy claims, if I'm hearing him right, that the police came after Aguirre for political reasons after Aguirre "turned over evidence to them."

Everyone's in on it except whoever it is that believes the CT.

Athyrio · 16th December 2020, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Or taken away for a 72 hour hold to be evaluated by a mental health professional.

Aguirre also provided an affidavit for at least one of the many lawsuits challenging the election results. I can’t determine the timing, but it had to have been after his citizen’s arrest gone wrong where he thought there were 750,000 fraudulent ballots in a truck and it turns out he missed that number by ¾ million.

Is this the kind of affiant that Rudy and company got their knickers in a snit about, the affidavits that people believe must have some truth because who would risk jail by deliberately lying in court?

I hope the Liberty Center feels like they got their money’s worth from his investigative expertise.

https://heavy.com/news/mark-aguirre/

shemp · 17th December 2020, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

This particular cop was fired after causing the largest internal investigation in Houston police history.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...n=ABtest10036B

He was always a piece of ****.

Sounds like he was already insane then. The fact that this lunatic was able to rise to Captain says very bad things about the department. He had to have been involved in other horrible **** before this.

Darat · 17th December 2020, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Athyrio

Aguirre also provided an affidavit for at least one of the many lawsuits challenging the election results. I can’t determine the timing, but it had to have been after his citizen’s arrest gone wrong where he thought there were 750,000 fraudulent ballots in a truck and it turns out he missed that number by ¾ million.

Is this the kind of affiant that Rudy and company got their knickers in a snit about, the affidavits that people believe must have some truth because who would risk jail by deliberately lying in court?

I hope the Liberty Center feels like they got their money’s worth from his investigative expertise.

https://heavy.com/news/mark-aguirre/

The answer is yes. We learnt from one of the early hearings that the "affidavits" were sought via an online web form that anyone could fill in. The lawyers admitted they'd taken no steps to verify the affidavits they wanted to present were truthful. (All they had done in terms of verification was toss the ones that were patently bogus.)

Hlafordlaes · 17th December 2020, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Dying in prison to own the libs.

Thank you sooo much for that. Put a spring in my step.

15th December 2020, 05:40 PM	#1
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 26,394	Texas ex-cop arrested over October "voter fraud" assault Today, former Houston Police captain Mark Aguirre was arrested by Houston police and charged with felony assault after an investigation into an incident where Aguirre and criminal associates forced an air conditioning repairman to the ground and stole his equipment truck, claiming the victim was the mastermind of a massive voter fraud scheme. In the early morning hours of October 19th, the HVAC technician was driving his box truck in south Houston when he was struck and forced to the side of the road by a Aguirre's SUV, whereupon Aguirre pointed a weapon at him and ordered him to the ground at gunpoint while two other men, arriving in separate vehicles, drove off with his box truck. Immediately after this, a Houston patrol officer by luck happened to come upon the scene and ordered Aguirre away from the victim. What Aguirre had to say to the Houston police by way of explanation was...quite the story. According to one-time Police Captain Aguirre, he was presently a member of a group of citizens calling themselves the "Liberty Center", and they were investigating a massive election fraud scheme. The HVAC technician was the head of the operation, which was funded by Mark Zuckerberg to the tune of several million dollars, and was running it out of a shed behind his mobile home, where thousands of fraudulent ballots were being filled out and signed - specifically by Hispanic children, because their fingerprints wouldn't show up in any databases if authorities ever tried to fingerprint the ballots. Aguirre and the Liberty Center had both the mobile home and the shed behind it under 24-hour surveillance for four days, and had finally decided to take down the technician when he left the house on October 19th with what they were certain was a cargo of boxes containing 750,000 fake ballots in the back of his truck. While being interrogated, Aguirre gave the detective at the scene a thinly-veiled warning: Quote: The defendant told Affiant that Affiant can be a hero or part of the problem. The defendant told Affiant, "I just hope you're a patriot." A few minutes after the scene was broken up, officers located the technician's truck a few blocks away. There was nothing in the truck except air conditioning tools. The technician also gave police permission to have a look around his home and property. There were no boxes of ballots, or crews of Mexican kids. The shed was full of "ordinary household items".
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15th December 2020, 05:48 PM	#2
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15th December 2020, 05:53 PM	#3
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 8,888	Whaddya mean "to own the Libs"? He broke up a massive election fraud scheme.
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15th December 2020, 06:57 PM	#4
SuburbanTurkey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,017	Apparently this was more than a lone nut with a gun. There was a second accomplice during the hijacking, and the former cop charged claims he was paid a hefty sum by a group organized for this purpose. Quote: Police say Aguirre was paid $266,400 by Houston-based Liberty Center for God and Country, a nonprofit organization that is run by GOP party activist Dr. Steven Hotze. ... Jared Woodfill, an attorney for Hotze, said Liberty Center had employed Aguirre's company and around 20 investigators who were looking into allegations of voter fraud during the election. Woodfill said he doesn't know if Aguirre was working on the investigation at the time of the alleged assault, but that Liberty Center doesn't approve of such tactics. "We would never endorse that, saying go pull someone over, put a gun up to their head and make them open up their truck," he said. https://www.startribune.com/ex-houst...aim/600001868/ Sounds like a criminal conspiracy to me. Check under your seats, that's right, it's a felony conviction.
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15th December 2020, 07:15 PM	#5
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 8,824	Seems this whole crew of crazy needs to be spending a really long cooling-off time in a secluded but secure facility, away from civilisation, cable TV, and the remote control. Like about 10 years worth.
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15th December 2020, 07:28 PM	#6
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 8,888	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Seems this whole crew of crazy needs to be spending a really long cooling-off time in a secluded but secure facility, away from civilisation, cable TV, and the remote control. Like about 10 years worth. That's going to have to be one big ass sized secure facility.
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15th December 2020, 10:36 PM	#7
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 26,394	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Apparently this was more than a lone nut with a gun. There was a second accomplice during the hijacking, and the former cop charged claims he was paid a hefty sum by a group organized for this purpose. https://www.startribune.com/ex-houst...aim/600001868/ Sounds like a criminal conspiracy to me. Check under your seats, that's right, it's a felony conviction. Liberty Center saying they "don't approve of such tactics" is going to be a pretty hard sell. Of the $266,400 police found had been given to Aguirre by the group, $211,400 of it was wired to him the day after the assault.
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15th December 2020, 10:41 PM	#8
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 26,394	And note again that the alleged assault happened in October. This is how violent and fanatical at least one "citizen investigator" was willing to be in defense of the president against an imaginary massive election-fraud conspiracy even before the election took place. Now that Trump has lost and the various state and federal courts have put a decisive end to the legal challenges, I have a nagging feeling that incidents of this type may recur in the near future.
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16th December 2020, 05:40 AM	#9
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 50,466	Originally Posted by Checkmite Today, former Houston Police captain Mark Aguirre was arrested by Houston police and charged with felony assault after an investigation into an incident where Aguirre and criminal associates forced an air conditioning repairman to the ground and stole his equipment truck, claiming the victim was the mastermind of a massive voter fraud scheme. In the early morning hours of October 19th, the HVAC technician was driving his box truck in south Houston when he was struck and forced to the side of the road by a Aguirre's SUV, whereupon Aguirre pointed a weapon at him and ordered him to the ground at gunpoint while two other men, arriving in separate vehicles, drove off with his box truck. Immediately after this, a Houston patrol officer by luck happened to come upon the scene and ordered Aguirre away from the victim. How did it take 2 months for the police to arrest him? I mean I guess they don't care about car jackings in Houston.
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16th December 2020, 05:46 AM	#10
SuburbanTurkey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,017	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle How did it take 2 months for the police to arrest him? I mean I guess they don't care about car jackings in Houston. Seems like he's being undercharged as well. They stole this man's truck at gunpoint. This was an armed robbery, not just an assault. Not seeing any charges for his accomplice who took part in a serious felony. Anyone but a former cop would be looking at a handful of serious felonies here and would have been arrested on the spot. Perhaps more will be coming down the pike as the conspiracy is unraveled and more people are hopefully charged.
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16th December 2020, 06:56 AM	#11
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 97,140	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Seems like he's being undercharged as well. They stole this man's truck at gunpoint. This was an armed robbery, not just an assault. Not seeing any charges for his accomplice who took part in a serious felony. Anyone but a former cop would be looking at a handful of serious felonies here and would have been arrested on the spot. Perhaps more will be coming down the pike as the conspiracy is unraveled and more people are hopefully charged. Just high spirits!
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16th December 2020, 07:02 AM	#12
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 32,368	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle How did it take 2 months for the police to arrest him? I mean I guess they don't care about car jackings in Houston. Possibly so as not to have any effect on the results of the election by countering the narrative that massive voter fraud was expected. Only ongoing investigations with narratives that appear to favour the Republicans are supposed to be used for political gain. Dave
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16th December 2020, 11:30 AM	#13
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 26,394	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle How did it take 2 months for the police to arrest him? I mean I guess they don't care about car jackings in Houston. The police did have to subpoena records from his bank and a hotel that the group was using as a "headquarters". I do not know how much time it took getting a judge to issue these and then waiting for the companies to respond, but I presume that may have played a role in the delay.
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16th December 2020, 11:35 AM	#14
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 13,542	Two months to arrest for a blatant felony crime?? And these yahoos are well-heeled enough to have a quarter mil to throw around? This is some seriously bad news.
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16th December 2020, 11:35 AM	#15
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 50,466	Originally Posted by Checkmite The police did have to subpoena records from his bank and a hotel that the group was using as a "headquarters". I do not know how much time it took getting a judge to issue these and then waiting for the companies to respond, but I presume that may have played a role in the delay. Because with out them stealing the guys truck and gunpoint would be legal? There seems to be no issue establishing that he was threatening this guy with a gun and had an accomplice take his truck. Why isn't that enough to put him behind bars while further charges are investigated?
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16th December 2020, 11:38 AM	#16
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 13,542	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle Because with out them stealing the guys truck and gunpoint would be legal? There seems to be no issue establishing that he was threatening this guy with a gun and had an accomplice take his truck. Why isn't that enough to put him behind bars while further charges are investigated? Seriously. I wonder if they would be so je ne sais quoi if it was three random black men jacking the truck and holding some guy on the side of the road at gunpoint?
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16th December 2020, 02:11 PM	#17
Athyrio Hipster Doofus Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nutsack, FL Posts: 2,171	I am anxious to see further details of this story as it goes to trial. This was a truly bizarre caper and hopefully his investigative skills have diminished since he was a police captain because it would make me think that he has made some serious mistakes along the way while enforcing the law. 750,000 ballots and hispanic juvenile fingerprints! He needs to show his work on that one. But the scary part is that he’s not the only one like that out there.
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16th December 2020, 02:16 PM	#18
SuburbanTurkey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,017	This particular cop was fired after causing the largest internal investigation in Houston police history. Quote: Calling the operation "almost totalitarian," a federal judge says a Houston police plan that led to 278 arrests in a Kmart parking lot almost three years ago was unconstitutional. ... In response to public outrage, the city dropped all charges and the Houston Police Department conducted the largest internal investigation in its history, resulting in disciplinary action against 32 officers. Capt. Mark Aguirre was fired for his handling of the raid. The lawsuits accuse police of brandishing pistols and shotguns, verbally abusing customers and knocking food from diners' hands and off their tables. The lawsuits allege that those arrested were forced to sit for hours while plastic cuffs cut into their arms, and some people soiled their clothes when denied permission to use restrooms. https://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...n=ABtest10036B He was always a piece of ****.
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16th December 2020, 02:33 PM	#19
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 26,394	Originally Posted by Athyrio This was a truly bizarre caper and hopefully his investigative skills have diminished since he was a police captain because it would make me think that he has made some serious mistakes along the way while enforcing the law. Judging from SuburbanTurkey's post above, I would say you are probably right to think so....
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16th December 2020, 04:10 PM	#20
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16th December 2020, 04:51 PM	#21
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,032	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Seems like he's being undercharged as well. They stole this man's truck at gunpoint. This was an armed robbery, not just an assault. Not seeing any charges for his accomplice who took part in a serious felony. Anyone but a former cop would be looking at a handful of serious felonies here and would have been arrested on the spot. Perhaps more will be coming down the pike as the conspiracy is unraveled and more people are hopefully charged. Or taken away for a 72 hour hold to be evaluated by a mental health professional.

16th December 2020, 05:10 PM	#22
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,032	Originally Posted by Checkmite Today, former Houston Police captain Mark Aguirre was arrested by Houston police and charged with felony assault after an investigation into an incident where Aguirre and criminal associates forced an air conditioning repairman to the ground and stole his equipment truck, claiming the victim was the mastermind of a massive voter fraud scheme. ... There's an interview in that link that is interesting. There are denials by people from Liberty Center saying that's not what happened, that the HVAC guy came at the ex-cop, more denials and claims that wasn't a credible story on the warrant. But at the end one guy claims, if I'm hearing him right, that the police came after Aguirre for political reasons after Aguirre "turned over evidence to them." Everyone's in on it except whoever it is that believes the CT.

16th December 2020, 05:40 PM	#23
Athyrio Hipster Doofus Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nutsack, FL Posts: 2,171	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Or taken away for a 72 hour hold to be evaluated by a mental health professional. Aguirre also provided an affidavit for at least one of the many lawsuits challenging the election results. I can’t determine the timing, but it had to have been after his citizen’s arrest gone wrong where he thought there were 750,000 fraudulent ballots in a truck and it turns out he missed that number by ¾ million. Is this the kind of affiant that Rudy and company got their knickers in a snit about, the affidavits that people believe must have some truth because who would risk jail by deliberately lying in court? I hope the Liberty Center feels like they got their money’s worth from his investigative expertise. https://heavy.com/news/mark-aguirre/
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17th December 2020, 07:10 AM	#24
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: People's Democratic Republic of Planet X Posts: 40,334	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey This particular cop was fired after causing the largest internal investigation in Houston police history. https://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...n=ABtest10036B He was always a piece of **. Sounds like he was already insane then. The fact that this lunatic was able to rise to Captain says very bad things about the department. He had to have been involved in other horrible ** before this.
	__________________ If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set. "...just as a magnet attracts iron filings, ~~Trump~~ shemp attracts, and is attracted to, louts." - George Will "[shemp is] a most notable coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality." - Shakespeare

17th December 2020, 07:46 AM	#25
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 97,140	Originally Posted by Athyrio Aguirre also provided an affidavit for at least one of the many lawsuits challenging the election results. I can’t determine the timing, but it had to have been after his citizen’s arrest gone wrong where he thought there were 750,000 fraudulent ballots in a truck and it turns out he missed that number by ¾ million. Is this the kind of affiant that Rudy and company got their knickers in a snit about, the affidavits that people believe must have some truth because who would risk jail by deliberately lying in court? I hope the Liberty Center feels like they got their money’s worth from his investigative expertise. https://heavy.com/news/mark-aguirre/ The answer is yes. We learnt from one of the early hearings that the "affidavits" were sought via an online web form that anyone could fill in. The lawyers admitted they'd taken no steps to verify the affidavits they wanted to present were truthful. (All they had done in terms of verification was toss the ones that were patently bogus.)
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17th December 2020, 08:27 AM	#26
Hlafordlaes Disorder of Kilopi Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: State of Flux Posts: 14,689	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Dying in prison to own the libs. Thank you sooo much for that. Put a spring in my step.
	__________________ Driftwood on an empty shore of the sea of meaninglessness. Irrelevant, weightless, inconsequential moment of existential hubris on the fast track to oblivion. His real name is Count Douchenozzle von Stenchfahrter und Lichtendicks. - shemp